Tom Boyd

[TiAn_]

Sounds like you dont want to compare them. Unlike doggies fans to be that shy when it comes to stats....

Tim Membrey - 15 games for the Stains, 4 wins
Tom Boyd - 18 games for the Dogs, 11 wins

 

[Pigdog]

"Over the past two weeks, Redpath has taken more contested marks and marks inside 50s than any other player in the competition. Just as importantly, he’s kicked three goals in each game, taking his tally to 19 goals from his past eight AFL matches."

We may not even need Boyd longer term if Redpath continues his recent form, although we'd expect Boyd to develop into one of the better forward/rucks in the competition (arguably the hardest role on an AFL list to fill) sow ill help immensely when he develops

Not going to downplay Jack's out-put which has been very good, but the vast majority of those games have been against pretty poor opposition.

His test will be against top 6 quality teams.

 

[g_TRAIN]

Will be a very good player.

 

[Defacto]

Tim Membrey - 15 games for the Stains, 4 wins
Tom Boyd - 18 games for the Dogs, 11 wins

TAC Cup 2012
Membrey 45 goals v Boyd 44

2013 NEAFL
Membrey 41 goals

TAC Cup 2013
Boyd 23 goals

2014 NEAFL
Membrey 48 goals vs Boyd 21 goals

2014 AFL
Membrey 0 goals v Boyd 8 goals

2015 AFL
Membrey 9 goals v Boyd 16 goals

2015 VFL
Membrey 18 goals vs Boyd 14 goals

2016 AFL
Membrey 8 goals v Boyd 5 goals

The only thats not comparable is the contract

Membrey 3 years @ 300k pa TOTAL 900k
Boyd 7 years @ 1m pa TOTAL 7 million

 

[Boristown]

TAC Cup 2012
Membrey 45 goals v Boyd 44

2013 NEAFL
Membrey 41 goals

TAC Cup 2013
Boyd 23 goals

2014 NEAFL
Membrey 48 goals vs Boyd 21 goals

2014 AFL
Membrey 0 goals v Boyd 8 goals

2015 AFL
Membrey 9 goals v Boyd 16 goals

2015 VFL
Membrey 18 goals vs Boyd 14 goals

2016 AFL
Membrey 8 goals v Boyd 5 goals

The only thats not comparable is the contract

Membrey 3 years @ 300k pa TOTAL 900k
Boyd 7 years @ 1m pa TOTAL 7 million

Can you do Stringer v Membrey now?

How about Billings v Hunter?

 

[Defacto]

Can you do Stringer v Membrey now?

How about Billings v Hunter?

Feel free to if you want. Feel free to put their contract value in there

 

[Boristown]

Feel free to put their contract value in there

Why bother?

Did Tom Boyd bone your missus?

 

[Nuggs Bunny]

The only thats not comparable is the contract

And their height, position, players that play on them etc. etc.

Membrey isn't a 200cm key forward. He doesn't play like one. He doesn't get the attention of one. He doesn't have the potential of one. 200cm is a real point of difference in AFL, Membrey doesn't offer that and he won't get paid like that.

Boyd is not being paid on his current performance, he's being paid on potential. Tall key forwards are the AFL's most prized commodity, that's what it takes to get one to your club.

Not knocking Membrey, he's a good player and probably should have gone earlier in the draft. But he's just not going to get Boyd money.

 

[SSSSSS]

Saints and Bulldogs shitfighting is like watching two hobos arguing over who is richer.

Massive chips on shoulders.

 

[TiAn_]

TAC Cup 2012
Membrey 45 goals v Boyd 44

2013 NEAFL
Membrey 41 goals

TAC Cup 2013
Boyd 23 goals

2014 NEAFL
Membrey 48 goals vs Boyd 21 goals

2014 AFL
Membrey 0 goals v Boyd 8 goals

2015 AFL
Membrey 9 goals v Boyd 16 goals

2015 VFL
Membrey 18 goals vs Boyd 14 goals

2016 AFL
Membrey 8 goals v Boyd 5 goals

The only thats not comparable is the contract

Membrey 3 years @ 300k pa TOTAL 900k
Boyd 7 years @ 1m pa TOTAL 7 million

If we ever field a team in the NEAFL we'll definitely trade for Membrey. Thanks for the heads up.

Saints and Bulldogs shitfighting is like watching two hobos arguing over who is richer.

Massive chips on shoulders.

"My team's won a flag recently so now I'm an unfunny flog."

 

[SSSSSS]

"My team's won a flag recently so now I'm an unfunny flog."

They've been winning flags my whole life.

 

[TiAn_]

They've been winning flags my whole life.

"I've always been an unfunny flog"

 

[Northworth]

Boyd is 20
the expectations come from his contract - which he would have been a fool to refuse
he may end up not meeting that hype but it is the risk that the club was prepared to take

 

[The 747]

They've been winning flags my whole life.

Oh it's this guy

 

[Boristown]

Oh it's this guy

Yep, like his existence had anything to do with his team's success. So many heroes.

 

[gillo94]

Tim Membrey - 15 games for the Stains, 4 wins
Tom Boyd - 18 games for the Dogs, 11 wins

Comparing Tom to Tim is unreasonable

Should be comparing Tom to Jesse Hogan, Paddy McCartin and Josh Schache
Right now I'd have the 3 ahead of him. All 4 will be great players IMO

 

[G0ther00s]

People who think it's unnecessary to compare contracts when comparing players are not getting with the times or new era. If your paying a guy well above his worth youre sacrificing money spent on other players/areas.

Not saying I would even rather Membrey than Boyd when including contracts but you have to discuss it, we're one of the last sports to understand tha and definitely the last sets of fans to take it into account.

Other sports trade Draft picks with overpaid players just to get them off their books. The afl is heading that way very soon and if Boyd keeps it up he might be one of the first along with Cloke to get that treatment.

 

[Scotland]

2014 NEAFL
Membrey 48 goals vs Boyd 21 goals

2014 AFL
Membrey 0 goals v Boyd 8 goals

2015 AFL
Membrey 9 goals v Boyd 16 goals

2015 VFL
Membrey 18 goals vs Boyd 14 goals

These stats are a bit meaningless without number of games played. Membrey played 1 AFL game for the Swans in two years so would've seen plenty of NEAFL action. Boyd played 9 or 10 games in his one year at GWS.

It's a silly comparison anyway since Boyd is 12cm taller. I'm sure Membrey's stats are much better than McCartin's at this point but I doubt any Saints fans would prefer to keep the former.

 

[Scotland]

People who think it's unnecessary to compare contracts when comparing players are not getting with the times or new era. If your paying a guy well above his worth youre sacrificing money spent on other players/areas.

Not saying I would even rather Membrey than Boyd when including contracts but you have to discuss it, we're one of the last sports to understand tha and definitely the last sets of fans to take it into account.

Other sports trade Draft picks with overpaid players just to get them off their books. The afl is heading that way very soon and if Boyd keeps it up he might be one of the first along with Cloke to get that treatment.

I agree with this but salary cap management and shuffling contracts around is huge in the AFL and the Dogs were in a pretty unique situation in 2014.

If Tom Boyd eats $1m out of their salary cap each year for 7 years then it's not a good deal unless becomes Buddy, even though the cap is going up significantly from next year. And he hasn't delivered million dollar value over 2015/16 either.

With a young list and Griffen walking out they were in trouble meeting the salary cap floor. Money saved year to year isn't banked either. Trading in Boyd was a risk but the alternative was another draftee and front loading existing contracts with no guarantee of a big fish a year or two later.

 

[Beasley]

He will work out well.

 

[grouse mate]

Did Tom Boyd bone your husband?

EFA.

 

[Bostonian]

They've been winning flags my whole life.

That makes you sound like the biggest band wagoner.

 

[ManOfClay]

That makes you sound like the biggest band wagoner.

Or born in 2013

 

[fishardansin]

Redpath's able to focus on his footy because he doesn't haven't to worry about negative gearing, whereas Tom's just a bundle of nerves.

New properties are fine. There are heaps of new apartments being built around Footscray.

 

[QLDbeachbabe]

Is tom still playing vfl?