Tom Boyd

[jdz101]

He's clearly been overpaid. But some Dogs supporters apparently would disagree.

Why do you care?

Any footballer that gets paid that proportion of the salary cap is technically overpaid compared to their peers.

They're paid to win premierships. He won one at 21.

Go and suck on a lemon in another thread.

 

[conrad_437]

I don't follow.

How many posts have you made on this thread?

 

[Del165892]

My plan was to respond to the part of the post that acknowledged the obvious reality in a straightforward manner, while ignoring the several paragraphs of false nuance arguing against it.

Boyd isnt over paid

 

[Sweet Jesus]

Why do you care?

It amuses me.

Any footballer that gets paid that proportion of the salary cap is technically overpaid compared to their peers.

They're paid to win premierships. He won one at 21.

Go and suck on a lemon in another thread.

So you agree he's been overpaid.

 

[Sweet Jesus]

Boyd isnt over paid

OK you convinced me.

 

[_Mike_]

I'm saying he's being overpaid in salary terms.

In terms of how you assess the contract and his current performance to date if you believe he is overpaid, your opinion is your prerogative.

My personal opinion, yes I do think he is overpaid. Its not causing issues with anyone except those who appear to be either jealous that a kid is on a million dollar a season contract over some seasoned players who are on less. That is what is called freedom to contract in the eyes of the law.

However, your response to the opinion of others puts forth that you're on your own crusade to have others agree with your rationale/argument. The normal thing to do would be to simply disagree and move on from it rather than trying to change the opinion/belief of others by arguing the point.

 

[Sweet Jesus]

In terms of how you assess the contract and his current performance to date if you believe he is overpaid, your opinion is your prerogative.

Naturally.

My personal opinion, yes I do think he is overpaid. Its not causing issues with anyone except those who appear to be either jealous that a kid is on a million dollar a season contract over some seasoned players who are on less. That is what is called freedom to contract in the eyes of the law.

Sure. It seems abundantly obvious to me.

However, your response to the opinion of others puts forth that you're on your own crusade to have others agree with your rationale/argument. The normal thing to do would be to simply disagree and move on from it rather than trying to change the opinion/belief of others by arguing the point.

Surely we are all equally free to disagree as we choose.

I wouldn't call it a crusade but I am inclined to point out the obvious reality when others deny it.

I don't understand the resistance among some Bulldogs fans to what strikes me as the most obvious thing in the world. Is there some dark force that will be unleashed if they concede Boyd has been overpaid? Why is it a taboo?

 

[Pannalstaroz]

So maybe you shouldn't dismiss information that is actually sourced, when you're only guessing.

Sourced? How do you know they're not guessing too?

Yes, it's just a random number plucked out of thin air by every media report. And parroted by you.

Thanks for agreeing.

Wow. That blows my mind.

Great, try this one then.

Princeton researchers successfully turned a live cat into a functioning telephone in 1929.

Tell this guy.

I'm on my way

 

[Sweet Jesus]

Sourced? How do you know they're not guessing too?

Yes, everyone is just randomly guessing the same number. That must be it.

Princeton researchers successfully turned a live cat into a functioning telephone in 1929.

And you guessed its salary.

 

[_Mike_]

I wouldn't call it a crusade but I am inclined to point out the obvious reality when others deny it.

At the end of the day, people have the right to believe whatever they want from the topic. Persisting with pushing an opinion on others wont achieve anything in the long run.

 

[Sweet Jesus]

At the end of the day, people have the right to believe whatever they want from the topic.

Sure, but why is there a collective denial of the obvious?

 

[Hard Ball Get]

Players are paid in order to win the club a premiership.
No Boyd - No premiership.
What we are paying him is fine if he's helping to deliver us flags.

 

[Sweet Jesus]

Players are paid in order to win the club a premiership.
No Boyd - No premiership.
What we are paying him is fine if he's helping to deliver us flags.

Players are paid in order to win the club a premiership.
No Hamling - No premiership.

He should have got $1 million as well. Right?

 

[jdz101]

It amuses me.

So you agree he's been overpaid.

Sure. Right now. If he keeps playing games like the grand final, then he gets closer to good value. There's a footballer in every team that's overpaid for what they offer.

Tom scully was overpaid in the deal that got him over. Do GWS still value him for the services he provides? Yup.

Buddy Franklin is overpaid in his current deal. Would Sydney get rid of him because he puts a squeeze on their cap later in his deal? Hell no.

At 30 million a year, is Anthony Davis overpaid as a proportion to what he provides to New Orleans a handful of seasons into his career? Yup. Would the pels trade him? Nope.

My point is. N-O-B-O-D-Y C-A-R-E-S

Some get more money. Some get less.

All that matters is whether they help you win premierships. Without tom in the last 4 weeks, we don't win a premiership.

 

[_Mike_]

Sure, but why is there a collective denial of the obvious?

I dont know, why do you feel the need to keep going on about it? you've argued your case many times to date.

 

[Hard Ball Get]

Players are paid in order to win the club a premiership.
No Hamling - No premiership.

He should have got $1 million as well. Right?

Balancing act. Some get more than others. When you win flags you don't care. Boyd helped us win a flag so whatever he's on isn't too much. Same for the other 20 blokes who played.

 

[BrisDog]

Players are paid in order to win the club a premiership.
No Hamling - No premiership.

He should have got $1 million as well. Right?

So Jack Darling owes your club about 900k over the last 2 years in that case.

 

[_Mike_]

He should have got $1 million as well.

If thats what Freo see's Hamling's worth, what would it be to you or anyone else? The value of a player's worth is subjective at the best of times and only in contention when it comes down to what offer the player is prepared to accept from the club targeting his services.

 

[Sweet Jesus]

Sure. Right now.

That's all I've been saying. I don't really understand the resistance.

Tom scully was overpaid in the deal that got him over. Do GWS still value him for the services he provides? Yup.

Yes, Scully has also been overpaid.

My point is. N-O-B-O-D-Y C-A-R-E-S

Plenty of Dogs fans in this thread care enough to deny the obvious reality.

All that matters is whether they help you win premierships. Without tom in the last 4 weeks, we don't win a premiership.

You could say the same for Joel Hamling but no one is arguing he's worth $1 million a season.

 

[threenewpadlocks]

My plan was to respond to the part of the post that acknowledged the obvious reality in a straightforward manner, while ignoring the several paragraphs of false nuance arguing against it.

Please point out where my post had false nuance.

 

[Sweet Jesus]

I dont know, why do you feel the need to keep going on about it?

Because people keep responding and I'm trying to understand their resistance to the obvious.

you've argued your case many times to date.

And many have disagreed.

The cosmic ballet continues.

 

[Doggies1972]

I am unfamiliar with that number. Do you have a source?

If Naitanui is in fact being paid $1.2 million per season, then yes, that seems like overs to me.

How does this make the case one way or the other regarding Boyd?

That doesn't mean they're all worth $1 million just because the team won the flag. That is not a logical argument.

Was Joel Hamling suddenly worth $1 million per season because the Dogs won the flag?

Again, you are unable to sustain an argument about Boyd, so pivot instead to another player at another club.

Why don't you just concede Boyd has been overpaid to date? Because you've basically stopped arguing against this.

Why don't you just stop repeating the same shit over and over and heck off.

 

[Hard Ball Get]

That's all.

 

[Sweet Jesus]

Balancing act. Some get more than others.

And some are overpaid. Like Boyd.

When you win flags you don't care. Boyd helped us win a flag so whatever he's on isn't too much. Same for the other 20 blokes who played.

So if a team wins a flag it automatically means that's impossible that any of there players are overpaid?

Just pause to consider the logic of that statement for a second.

 

[Sweet Jesus]

So Jack Darling owes your club about 900k over the last 2 years in that case.

What case is that?