Free Agency Tom De Koning - Joins St Kilda as an RFA, Carlton get Band 1 compensation (Pick 9)

[Jeremias]

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Thanks.

 

[all seeing eye]

We've got the money for TDK and NWM.
It's called planning.
The only midfield free agents this year are Bont (not coming to us) and Worpel (any club could afford).

Good luck to you, still seems alot for a ruckman.

 

[Saints43]

Good luck to you, still seems alot for a ruckman.

It is. We're effectively buying a first round pick using free agency.
Ideally it would've been a mid but TDK is the only good player available, for no draft capital, who'll come.

 

[Cleric]

TDK has beaten Cameron in the ruck, Cameron destroyed Marshall.

And TDK got destroyed by ROB, and ROB is slow, unmobile, and can't jump over a coke can. That game told me that TDK is massively over rated.
But, if The Saints rate him, have the money in their cap, who really cares?

 

[Cleric]

Please don't rescind the offer.
Please don't rescind the offer.
Please don't rescind the offer.
Please don't rescind the offer.
Please don't rescind the offer.

I have no doubt the Carlton board are quietly hoping he goes. Pick 9 is more than he is worth pick wise, it saves Carlton a million a year in cap space, and he is so easily replaced its not funny.
ROB at the Crows destroyed him in the beginning of the year. ROB would cost you 500k a year for three years. (Not that I want ROB to leave the Crows, I want him to stay)

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

I have no doubt the Carlton board are quietly hoping he goes. Pick 9 is more than he is worth pick wise, it saves Carlton a million a year in cap space, and he is so easily replaced its not funny.
ROB at the Crows destroyed him in the beginning of the year. ROB would cost you 500k a year for three years. (Not that I want ROB to leave the Crows, I want him to stay)

We'd all love TDK to stay. Just for nowhere near the $ being thrown about.

The Saints can figure out how to deal with his gigantic contract over the next 6-7 years.

 

[Saints43]

We'd all love TDK to stay. Just for nowhere near the $ being thrown about.

The Saints can figure out how to deal with his gigantic contract over the next 6-7 years.

Correct. People make it sound like having both Marshall and TDK is a terrible problem to solve.
It should be a great opportunity like Freo with their talls.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Correct. People make it sound like having both Marshall and TDK is a terrible problem to solve.
It should be a great opportunity like Freo with their talls.

It is a terrible problem to solve. TDK is a full time ruck or bust.

 

[Cleric]

We'd all love TDK to stay. Just for nowhere near the $ being thrown about.

The Saints can figure out how to deal with his gigantic contract over the next 6-7 years.

Sure, but not at the price he wants to stay. TDK on 700K a year is fine. TDK on 1.7m a year is another matter. For that Carlton would be pushing him out the door for pick 9 and the savings to their cap. He is easily replacable.

 

[Saints43]

It is a terrible problem to solve. TDK is a full time ruck or bust.

We'd need to see TDK playing forward in a team that was trying.
It's certainly a better problem than Pitonett being good at neither.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

We'd need to see TDK playing forward in a team that was trying.
It's certainly a better problem than Pitonett being good at neither.

Seen it plenty of times over the journey. It's exactly what you saw tonight just with slightly more effort.

 

[kaiserchief13]

Yeah not sure he would be worth a big offer unless he's 80% in ruck, but would St kilda offload Marshall? Marshall definitely wouldn't play 80% forward 20% ruck. He'd be a good fit for Geelong and that's probably where he wants to go but Geelong have no salary cap for him

 

[FootyLad0]

Yeah not sure he would be worth a big offer unless he's 80% in ruck, but would St kilda offload Marshall? Marshall definitely wouldn't play 80% forward 20% ruck. He'd be a good fit for Geelong and that's probably where he wants to go but Geelong have no salary cap for him

Monster Geelong war chest revealed and rival players named

The AFL powerhouse is set to be a big player come trade time and there are superstars in their sights.

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“No salary cap” for him
You can bet if Wells and Mackie want it to happen they’ll do what they can to make it happen.
Way too many runs on the board to not believe in their ability.

 

[Kobe Gryant]

Monster Geelong war chest revealed and rival players named

The AFL powerhouse is set to be a big player come trade time and there are superstars in their sights.

7news.com.au

“No cap” hey

We've got the cap space for him at what he's actually worth, something in the 800k-1.1m range depending on his form.

Most clubs in the league would have it too with the new CBA agreements. I doubt it's a matter of money at Carlton either, it's just a matter of not paying stupid money.

We just won't pay 1.7m either, and nor should we.

 

[VinnieB]

This is going to be disastrous for the Saints and we'll all be hearing how it's again the AFL's fault over the next decade.

 

[Tasmanian saint]

He'll play forward more or we'll trade him.

In case you haven't noticed our forward line is pretty rough.

He started as a forward back when we had Billy Longer and Tom Hickey as our rucks.

Playing in defence should be considered as well takes some good contested marks when he plays behind the ball

 

[Tasmanian saint]

By what metrics is he a better forward than Tim English?

Contested marking

 

[Tasmanian saint]

Monster Geelong war chest revealed and rival players named

The AFL powerhouse is set to be a big player come trade time and there are superstars in their sights.

7news.com.au

“No salary cap” for him
You can bet if Wells and Mackie want it to happen they’ll do what they can to make it happen.
Way too many runs on the board to not believe in their ability.

There is not a chance Geelong offer him a contract above a million they are known for being extremely reluctant to handing out big money contracts they have obviously used other means in the past to get deals done. Anyway tdk is not leaving Carlton for market value buy all reports he loves the club, the only reason he is even considering st kilda is because our offer is almost at the point he can’t say no to

 

[Tasmanian saint]

We'd all love TDK to stay. Just for nowhere near the $ being thrown about.

The Saints can figure out how to deal with his gigantic contract over the next 6-7 years.

His contract will be massively front loaded at a level never seen before, hence we won’t be dealing with a big contract in 6 years time

 

[Saints43]

His contract will be massively front loaded at a level never seen before, hence we won’t be dealing with a big contract in 6 years time

Carlton supporters can't understand that we have a plan in place for this contract because they've never seen their club plan beyond losing a game on purpose to secure Kruezer.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

There is not a chance Geelong offer him a contract above a million they are known for being extremely reluctant to handing out big money contracts they have obviously used other means in the past to get deals done. Anyway tdk is not leaving Carlton for market value buy all reports he loves the club, the only reason he is even considering st kilda is because our offer is almost at the point he can’t say no to

A million ain't what it used to be. Scaled for the cap today i think the contract we gave Cameron would be 1.3-1.4. Don't think they'd have an issue offering him a million but they probably wouldn't go any higher than the blues offer whatever that is so it's pretty unlikely.

 

[carlton_99]

Carlton supporters can't understand that we have a plan in place for this contract because they've never seen their club plan beyond losing a game on purpose to secure Kruezer.

Ah yes the Saints invented front loading contracts

 

[nahnah]

Apparently the big issue here isnt so much the offer TDK has from St Kilda vs Carlton, its the HEAVY frontloading St Kilda is doing for TDK. They legit have like 4+ mill available and are probably in a spend it or lose it position

It could easily be a case of TDK getting 2.5 mill in 2026, 2.5 mill in 2027 and then going down to a proper contract afterwards. Getting 5 mill in 2 years instead of say Carlton who would be backloading it and getting 1.5 mill is a giant ass life difference. From St Kildas position they are giving money they will lose if they dont spend it so this is better then burning it on nothing

So basically 2 years at saints on insane money and then trade request incoming

 

[CatToTheFuture]

So basically 2 years at saints on insane money and then trade request incoming

Aka pulling a Brad Hill

 

[Jeremias]

Carlton supporters can't understand that we have a plan in place for this contract because they've never seen their club plan beyond losing a game on purpose to secure Kruezer.

Take this rubbish elsewhere thanks. It's not wanted on this board.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

With their first pick at Waverley and the prospect that a rebuild could be on the cards the Blues shouldn't be too disheartened if he leaves. Will get a top 10 compo pick at worst.