MRP / Trib. Tom Lynch -How many?

[jannissary]

No, the game is f*****

Nothing happened to the Adelaide player

so you think it's okay to go and punch someone because you're having a shit game of football?

 

[Tiger Hombre]

so you think it's okay to go and punch someone because you're having a shit game of football?

To slap someone when riled up, and to cause no ill effects to that opponent, is good fortune in my opinion.

 

[jannissary]

To slap someone when riled up, and to cause no ill effects to that opponent, is good fortune in my opinion.

i think punching people in the back of the head is bad, but i guess you don't think potentially significantly harming someone is that bad if it's a player from your own team :whistle

 

[TY24]

I think his character was created by AFL 360, and after that what happened was that players from opposition teams started going at Lynch to get him all riled up and off his game, and when he reacts he's the thug.

I saw this same thing happen with part Aboriginal player Adam Goodes, when AFL 360 called him a cheating diver, which caused him to get booed by footy fans that take their cues from the AFL media, and then to cover their arse they turned into a racism thing.

 

[Hollow Knight]

'Game died when my team stopped being good'

How convenient

Also conveniently when the AFL supposedly introduced the “Richmond tax” and “instructed umpires to officiate Richmond out of the game”.

 

[Tiger Hombre]

Lynch has created his own character. People have even tried making excuses for it by calling him clumsy.

AFL 360, if they wanted to, could do a piece today on Cripps having the most throws in AFL football history, and the fans that take their cues from the AFL media would boo the shit out of that illegal stad padder just like they booed Adam Goodes. Unfortunately it's not in the script to call Cripps out for his illegal stats that helped him get 2 Brownlows, but no flags, in fact, is that not the definition of stat padding?

 

[Hollow Knight]

AFL 360, if they wanted to, could do a piece today on Cripps having the most throws in AFL football history, and the fans that take their cues from the AFL media would boo the shit out of that illegal stad padder just like they booed Adam Goodes. Unfortunately it's not in the script to call Cripps out for his illegal stats that helped him get 2 Brownlows, but no flags, in fact, is that not the definition of stat padding?

 

[Tiger Hombre]

i think punching people in the back of the head is bad, but i guess you don't think potentially significantly harming someone is that bad if it's a player from your own team :whistle

What about Naughton kneeing Vlastuin in the head twice whilst going for marks, do you think that's bad, it has the potential to cause harm does it not?

I remember when Balta kneed a Sydney player in the head once while going for a mark at the SCG, and that player got concussed out of the game. Why was that allowed to go unpunished, while nothing happening gets 5 weeks for what could've happened ?

 

[Saint]

If you get 2 weeks for jumper punches and bumps, I'm pretty sure you have to get 5 for haymakers.

I admire Richmond fans for taking the time out of their day to defend the borderline indefensible. At least they haven't turned on the club yet.

The chook poo is probably still a year or two away. For the moment they've got denial, hope and blame. We've seen what they do to themselves when they start running out of denial and hope and turn the blame internal.

 

[Purple Suit]

What about Naughton kneeing Vlastuin in the head twice whilst going for marks, do you think that's bad, it has the potential to cause harm does it not?

I remember when Balta kneed a Sydney player in the head once while going for a mark at the SCG, and that player got concussed out of the game. Why was that allowed to go unpunished, while nothing happening gets 5 weeks for what could've happened ?

It's called rules, it is why accidentally bumping into a person in a pub does not get you in trouble with the law compared to going out the front of the pub and bashing someone.

 

[jannissary]

What about Naughton kneeing Vlastuin in the head twice whilst going for marks, do you think that's bad, it has the potential to cause harm does it not?

I remember when Balta kneed a Sydney player in the head once while going for a mark at the SCG, and that player got concussed out of the game. Why was that allowed to go unpunished, while nothing happening gets 5 weeks for what could've happened ?

you seem extremely mad that someone got punished for throwing a punch, something that is always, consistently punished.

 

[Tugga27]

lynch should probably retire but this is a farce.

Game is dead and has been for a few years.

You’re a fool if you pay to watch this Showbiz.

Judging by the crowds you're getting, I think most Tiger supporters agree.

 

[jannissary]

Judging by the crowds you're getting, I think most Tiger supporters agree.

they had such a strong crowd on the weekend!

 

[Tugga27]

AFL 360, if they wanted to, could do a piece today on Cripps having the most throws in AFL football history, and the fans that take their cues from the AFL media would boo the shit out of that illegal stad padder just like they booed Adam Goodes. Unfortunately it's not in the script to call Cripps out for his illegal stats that helped him get 2 Brownlows, but no flags, in fact, is that not the definition of stat padding?

Back the truck up fella.

You're getting into Aristotle Pickett territory here.

 

[Strange Cat]

Back the truck up fella.

You're getting into Aristotle Pickett territory here.

Well it’s a new account so go figure…

 

[PeterSalt]

No appeal

 

[brutus76]

At least we know what his Mad Monday outfit will be

 

[Jim Cricket]

It wasn’t a chop. It was a strike to the head.





This is the precise attitude we need out of the game and society.

Butts was just doing his job as a defender, and whether or not Lynch was being held is not relevant.

If the strike landed properly, Butts would have been concussed and there would potentially be other severe injuries. Are you suggesting Lynch’s frustration justifies Butts suffering a brain injury?

It is no one’s fault but Lynch’s, he should stop acting like a petulant child and control his emotions.

Brain injury... Society... You're not being dramatic enough.

I said it looked like a chop, not that he didn't strike him in the head. And the attitude we should be getting out of the game is that it's ok for players to hold other players illegally. Not only does it prevent a player getting to the ball, which should be everyone's goal including the guy doing the holding, it's ugly to watch. The good part is that not many of us think this holding illegally is ok. But yes, no-one should want umpires to do their jobs properly, dunno what I was thinking with that comment. Let's do away with umpires completely.

 

[MC Extra Dollop]

I admire Richmond fans for taking the time out of their day to defend the borderline indefensible. At least they haven't turned on the club yet.

I'll never understand why it's apparently so difficult to say that a player from the club you support did something shit and deserves the punishment that they get for it.

Richmond supporters: He's not your son. It's not costing you a top four berth. Why are you wasting so much time defending him?

As for the punishment itself it was always a case of it being:

Fewer than four: "What an effing joke"
4-6: "Meh"
7+: (whistle)

Five's definitely "meh" range.

 

[Saint]

I'll never understand why it's apparently so difficult to say that a player from the club you support did something shit and deserves the punishment that they get for it.

Richmond supporters: He's not your son. It's not costing you a top four berth. Why are you wasting so much time defending him?

As for the punishment itself it was always a case of it being:

Fewer than four: "What an effing joke"
4-6: "Meh"
7+: (whistle)

Five's definitely "meh" range.

They were talking 2-3 range, as if swinging haymakers was part of the game and since it didn't connect, he didn't do anything wrong.

 

[Cyclonus]

Brain injury... Society... You're not being dramatic enough.

I said it looked like a chop, not that he didn't strike him in the head. And the attitude we should be getting out of the game is that it's ok for players to hold other players illegally. Not only does it prevent a player getting to the ball, which should be everyone's goal including the guy doing the holding, it's ugly to watch. The good part is that not many of us think this holding illegally is ok. But yes, no-one should want umpires to do their jobs properly, dunno what I was thinking with that comment. Let's do away with umpires completely.

Let's see the holds.

 

[TheOptimum18]

They were talking 2-3 range, as if swinging haymakers was part of the game and since it didn't connect, he didn't do anything wrong.

The biggest issue with this conversation is the lack of acknowledgement of the MRO matrix and how the tribunal has conducted itself thus far this season.

No where in the matrix that determines suspensions does it state football action v non-football action. The part that does is whether the action was careless or whether the action was intentional. I think it's fair to say that all supporters think that the current MRO matrix is not fit for purpose, and should be rewritten, but until then, you go by it in it's current form.

The mistake (in my eyes) the AFL/tribunal has made is give out the 3 weeks for acts like Curtis, because it sets a bar. Thus, when you have inexcusable acts like from Lynch, the AFL/tribunal have twisted themselves into giving more than 3 weeks DESPITE what their own matrix says.

In an ideal world (my personal opinion) is that Lynch would initially gets 4 weeks, and then 2 is added on because of high contact for a total of a 6 week suspension.

Like someone posted online, this is the only time a player has been given a "severe" impact grading for an incident that didn't cause an injury, didn't cause the player to leave the ground early, or require an HIA. Chances are, we won't see another one again. We've been conditioned this whole season that the tribunal CANNOT change the matrix, otherwise we wouldn't have seen 3 weeks for Paul Curtis and co.

Yet from this tribunal case, it seems they can bend the matrix guidelines to get what the AFL wants.

Thus you see Richmond supporters talking about 2-3 week suspension, rather than a more fitting one in an ideal world.

 

[TheOptimum18]

Let's see the holds.

2:38 - 4:35

I would have liked to see Ray Chamberlain talk about the two incidents where Lynch does whack Butts. From what he's saying in this period of the video, it does sound like both those incidents would fall under free-kick against Butts category, despite my own understanding of the rules.

 

[PhatBoy]

I was expecting 4-5 at least for this incident and it's appropriate IMO.

Simply can't have a bloke taking a swing at another's head like that. Outcome aside, the intent was there, and it needs to be treated severely. Lynch has made a goose of himself and let the club down.



I think it should have been 5-6 personally. Looked intentional to me.

New rules every year though.

Saw a ball in dispute which he was always going to be beaten to. He then intentionally tried to smack him, don’t think he intentionally tried to shoulder his head. Got it wrong, got rubbed out. Went very badly and probably could have got another week. The idea that he drove around the field like Mr Burns with a telescopic site on the front of his car looking for a victim to run over was laughable though.

 

[Cyclonus]

2:38 - 4:35

I would have liked to see Ray Chamberlain talk about the two incidents where Lynch does whack Butts. From what he's saying in this period of the video, it does sound like both those incidents would fall under free-kick against Butts category, despite my own understanding of the rules.

Thank you. To me it looks like the first one is a clear free kick but the others seem less obvious, but Razor thinks they are. If they are, pay them every time.