Scandal Tom Silvagni convicted of rape

[Munich]

I'd be pretty confident that he's lied to them the entire time and they wouldn't have had any reason to not believe his fake evidence. I doubt they'd have gone through what they did if he owned up to them and told them exactly what he did. You'd have to think the best outcome advised by lawyer would have been to plead guilty to a lesser charge and move on.

What's a lesser charge?

There likely wasn't one offered and rightly so.

 

[10571z]

The above poster seemed to think digital rape is a different charge. It's not.

Err no I don’t. There is all levels of any crime. You can be charged with assault for pushing someone or bashing them within an inch of their life. Both carry different sentences

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

They would have had discovery from the prosecution ie the victim's statement of events. He maintained he wasn't even there and made up false uber receipts to try and get away from the location.

Bruhn not Braun.

Sorry Bruhn.
Yeah i get all that
BTW i have 2 daughters and i hope he gets the max.
I'm just seeing it from a parents POV.They thought he was innocent right upto to the Guilty verdict i would imagine.

 

[Munich]

Err no I don’t. There is all levels of any crime. You can be charged with assault for pushing someone or bashing them within an inch of their life. Both carry different sentences

It wasn't you I was replying about.

That poster said that digital rape was a different charge and gets a lesser sentence.

 

[Munich]

Sorry Bruhn.
Yeah i get all that
BTW i have 2 daughters and i hope he gets the max.
I'm just seeing it from a parents POV.They thought he was innocent right upto to the Guilty verdict i would imagine.

He won't get the max, only the worst of the worse would.

But I don't believe that close family members wouldn't know something was off, there'd be signs.

 

[10571z]

Am I to understand Tom is claiming it never happened? That’s his defence? While doctoring uber receipts?

 

[Munich]

Am I to understand Tom is claiming it never happened? That’s his defence? While doctoring uber receipts?

Yes, as far as I've read he has maintained that the whole time.

 

[Underarm]

Read the details in an article last week, shocking stuff. Snuck into a dark room and pretended to be his mate to take advantage of a girl in bed. ****ing gross.

Isn't that basically what Milne and Co. did?

 

[Milanista28]

Super predatory behavior, I have little doubt he's tried it before or would've tried it again had this woman not shown the bravery she has to get this guilty verdict.

 

[Munich]

Super predatory behavior, I have little doubt he's tried it before or would've tried it again had this woman not shown the bravery she has to get this guilty verdict.

Exactly, which is why I don't believe the rhetoric that his parents 100% believed him.

His brothers at the very least would likely know what he's like and you don't think they'd tell their parents?

 

[Underarm]

Bruhn was innocent & set up. He wasn't fabricating evidence.

Do you honestly believe the Silvagni's believe their son is innocent?

This idiot has maintained it wasn't him and he wasn't in the room.

Doesn't matter what the evidence is. As soon as his name was out there people would have assumed his guilt.

 

[Munich]

Doesn't matter what the evidence is. As soon as his name was out there people would have assumed his guilt.

I wasn't commenting on what the general public think. It was about his parents.

 

[RUNVS]

Doesn't matter what the evidence is. As soon as his name was out there people would have assumed his guilt.

The thing is while false accusations exist they are definitely quite rare. Most men who are accused of rape are usually guilty of it, even if it can't always be proven beyond a shadow of a doubt in a court of law.

 

[Mynamesinuse]

Doesn't matter what the evidence is. As soon as his name was out there people would have assumed his guilt.

Agreed. Even after Bruhan was cleared and it was revealed the alleged victim had lied people still wanted him hung.

 

[Mynamesinuse]

The thing is while false accusations exist they are definitely quite rare. Most men who are accused of rape are usually guilty of it, even if it can't always be proven beyond a shadow of a doubt in a court of law.

Ridiculous comment

 

[Munich]

Agreed. Even after Bruhan was cleared and it was revealed the alleged victim had lied people still wanted him hung.

Dunno about that, the overwhelming sentiment I was seeing was in favour of him.

 

[thumbs_up]

Ridiculous comment

You don't like facts, doesn't make them ridiculous. There's a lot of research on this subject.

 

[RUNVS]

You don't like facts, doesn't make them ridiculous. There's a lot of research on this subject.

Yep, the only people who refute it are the "mens rights" people, who are usually doing it because they want to discredit every victim.

 

[Mynamesinuse]

Yep, the only people who refute it are the "mens rights" people, who are usually doing it because they want to discredit every victim.

Get off your high horse.
We have only just had a case where the female fabricated a story.

 

[thumbs_up]

Yep, the only people who refute it are the "mens rights" people, who are usually doing it because they want to discredit every victim.

Probably share the attitudes of the perpetrators if not have perpetrated similar offences themselves.

I suppose when the vast majority get away with it, it must seem like they're hard done by when a perp actually gets held accountable for their sexual crimes.

 

[BuddysBiggestFan]

How is the girlfriend he had when he did this still with him?

 

[Bunk Moreland]

"If Mr Silvagni was connected to ping pong or table tennis there wouldn't be such media interest. It's to do with Australia's obsession with football."

An interesting article about the situation and suppression orders.

How the Silvagni rape case was shrouded in secrecy

The son of AFL great Stephen Silvagni managed to have his court proceedings suppressed from the moment he...

www.canberratimes.com.au

The simple argument is whether it’s in the public interest to have him named immediately - that’s what the media always argue. The reality, of course, is that it isn’t. Nobody is really served by him being named, it’s just voyeurism and the lining of the pockets for the media.

 

[thumbs_up]

How is the girlfriend he had when he did this still with him?

Is that for real?! Trauma bonding?

 

[Underarm]

I wasn't commenting on what the general public think. It was about his parents.

A supression order was placed before the trial began, Do you expect his parents to decide if their son is guilty or not before that?

The thing is while false accusations exist they are definitely quite rare. Most men who are accused of rape are usually guilty of it, even if it can't always be proven beyond a shadow of a doubt in a court of law.

or guilty of something in the grey area between rape and consensual sex.

But most people don't look at the facts of the case, they decide based on what they think of the Celebrity (or in this case their father).

 

[Munich]

How is the girlfriend he had when he did this still with him?

And who was at the house when it happened.