Scandal Tom Silvagni convicted of rape

[Hawk88]

People smashing SOS need to first confirm if they have kids before posting coz you dont understand unless you have kids

If your son says he didnt do it you believe him

 

[The_Reaper]

Hopefully he gets a very long sentence behind bars.

Beyond that I find it difficult to criticise the family for supporting him throughout the legal process. I know I personally would support my family throughout a legal process.

Hell while I was born and raised in Australia and am culturally more Australian than not, I am Chinese in background and the way I was raised even if I thought a family member was committing a crime I’d never inform on them to authorities

 

[Rocky Stevo]

Daily Mail reckons the SoS clan sold their Balwyn North house in mid 2024 (a few months after charges laid) and are planning a move to Qld.
If you believe anything the Daily Mail prints, then SoS will surely quit the club?

 

[Sarcoidevo]

I don’t take much out of it, Daily Mail always use superlative adjectives to try and outrage the reader.

The story really is that they entered the court room after the victim made her statement and JS looked at her. They used ‘glared’ instead of ‘looked at’ to elicit an emotional response in the reader.

The fact that they went in as soon as it was done, to the point where she was still at the podium really tells you everything you need to know about their level of respect for the victim though…..

Well said ..... justglaringaround

 

[mookieb]

If Tom had said he didn’t eat the last piece of chocolate cake but he’s got it smeared all around his mouth would they also have to believe him then?

I really don’t understand this insistence that they have to defend him when all the evidence points to the contrary. Including a guilty verdict.

A big part of being a parent is correcting your child’s behaviour and letting them face the consequences of their actions. In this case the act is so heinous that jail time is the only fair consequence

How much evidence is there? I assume it's a he said / she said case l(I assume no DNA or witnesses to the crime) ike many of these nature so it's only natural that the family believes their son.

That being said if you're doctoring uber receipts then it surely has to point towards guilt.

 

[frggr]

Ah wait, so Jo and Stephen weren't even present in court to hear the victim's impact statement? And then came out to disavow the victim and the court.

How callous.

I suppose it makes it easier to "defend" their angel, Tom Silvagni the convicted rapist, if they don't have to hear the impact of his actions.

 

[frggr]

If he is convicted he has to shut up, if he said that whilst he was convicted its a different story imo

Put yourself in SOS shoes, what would you do? You protect your son at all costs

My son could kill someone and I would still be in his corner, rightly or wrongly

I'll clear that up for you - it's definitely wrongly.

 

[frggr]

How much evidence is there? I assume it's a he said / she said case l(I assume no DNA or witnesses to the crime) ike many of these nature so it's only natural that the family believes their son.

That being said if you're doctoring uber receipts then it surely has to point towards guilt.

Police recording of phone call where he more or less admits it and asks her to 'move on' from what happened.

Phone records where he discusses plans with his mate (who she had consensual relations with) to get his Uber receipt (he'd left earlier) and doctor it so it looked like he'd left later (thereby supporting the story it was "the mate" with her again.

Dunno about you, but that's all a bit weird if he just had a berocca and went to bed after a few shandies

 

[frggr]

People smashing SOS need to first confirm if they have kids before posting coz you dont understand unless you have kids

If your son says he didnt do it you believe him

This is why there are such entitled ****wits getting around because some parents are too soft on their little darlings

 

[Visions]

If he is convicted he has to shut up, if he said that whilst he was convicted its a different story imo

Put yourself in SOS shoes, what would you do? You protect your son at all costs

My son could kill someone and I would still be in his corner, rightly or wrongly

Its more the way he went about it.

If he is going to make a statement, all that was needed was to say something like "we are looking to support Tom during this difficult time" which is a more acceptable statement than the we believe he is innocent and want to clear his name.

If the lawyer prepared that statement on his behalf, he really should be sent packing as he should know better.

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

If Tom had said he didn’t eat the last piece of chocolate cake but he’s got it smeared all around his mouth would they also have to believe him then?

I really don’t understand this insistence that they have to defend him when all the evidence points to the contrary. Including a guilty verdict.

A big part of being a parent is correcting your child’s behaviour and letting them face the consequences of their actions. In this case the act is so heinous that jail time is the only fair consequence

The chocolate cake smeared on the face would be physical evidence. It's not a great comparison.

The consequence is unquestioned. Whether they should disbelieve their son based on the verdict, is questionable. We are not in a position to know if they truly believe him or not.

 

[1970crow]

all good guys SOS managed to up his sons offer to saints to help pay for bail and legal fees for tom

enjoy 25 years in jail

He’s not getting 25 years.

 

[1970crow]

His mate pretty much told Tom to GAGF when Tom asked him to lie and say his uber was cancelled and that he came back to the house.

Was that actual evidence in court? If so, you’d wonder how his parents could continue to believe in his innocence.

 

[1970crow]

I reckon 7 with a non parole period of 5

Google reckons that since Feb 1 , 2018 it’s 10 years fixed. If so, wonder if there’s discretion on the non-parole period.

 

[1970crow]

People smashing SOS need to first confirm if they have kids before posting coz you dont understand unless you have kids

If your son says he didnt do it you believe him

When it’s just his word, you might. But when you’ve been availed of all the evidence put before court, you should be considering all that as objectively as you can. I have no problem with his statement, although I do think he could have tightened it up a bit. But surely the blind trust phase should be over by now.

 

[1970crow]

How much evidence is there? I assume it's a he said / she said case l(I assume no DNA or witnesses to the crime) ike many of these nature so it's only natural that the family believes their son.

That being said if you're doctoring uber receipts then it surely has to point towards guilt.

Seems to be an element similar to the Bruce Lehrmann case. They both deny that anything at all took place. Bruce taking the piss, but st least he didn’t have messages between himself and the victim proving that something did happen. Which would make his defence a little absurd. I must be missing something, just seems so cut and dried.

 

[VinnieB]

Law doesnt always get it right...fully understand why sos is sticking by his son. Would be an absolute campaigner if he didn't.

I thought it was interesting how SOS and wife waiting until the victim statement was over before entering the court.

Obviously didn’t want to face the reality that their son is a rapist.

 

[chippie]

As he's breaking down in tears. Possibly because he realises what he is saying is factually wrong.

I hope its that and he's not just crying for the sake of his lost reputation.

Not just his lost reputation but his families. The Silvagni’s were Carlton royalty and Serge hugely respected. But I’m pretty certain those tears are for lost reputation.

 

[chippie]

Lotta SOS pearl clutching going on in here, chat about the "human element" and the fact that he's just "defending his son". Here are the facts, though.

- His son has been convicted of rape, found guilty by a jury of his peers after sufficient evidence proved beyond reasonable doubt that he is indeed guilty.

- In making a public statement proclaiming his son's innocence, he is effectively calling the victim a liar and in doing so causing further harm to the victim and her family at a time when they should be getting closure on the whole ****ed up scenario.

Now here are my opinions.

- If SOS was doing what a good parent should do, he wouldn't be enabling and absolving his son's disgusting behaviour by publicly proclaiming his innocence. What a good father would be doing, is turning his attention inward towards his son and dealing with Tom's behaviours and attitudes towards women

- The Silvagni family clearly believe their status absolves them from any wrongdoing and they can make this whole fiasco disappear by simply denying it.

The "human element" card is absolute rubbish, I'm sorry. Yes that element is certainly involved, however the result of it has been SOS turning his attention on the victim and enabling the perpetrator...and that is just wrong and frankly, awful parenting.

I think you have nailed it Rusty. No respect for how the parents are handling this.

 

[chippie]

Why does anyone need to find it satisfactory? It changes nothing.

It's admirable that he would stand by his son. I find it weird that some parents would seek to distance themselves in a situation like this.

How is this admirable?! He is basically saying my POS son hasn’t done anything wrong! If he accepted the verdict and his son’s guilt he could still stand by him but he’s not doing that.

 

[Nostradumbass]

Maximum sentence would be great for this rapist scumbag.

 

[thumbs_up]

Ah wait, so Jo and Stephen weren't even present in court to hear the victim's impact statement? And then came out to disavow the victim and the court.

How callous.

I suppose it makes it easier to "defend" their angel, Tom Silvagni the convicted rapist, if they don't have to hear the impact of his actions.

How is this admirable?! He is basically saying my POS son hasn’t done anything wrong! If he accepted the verdict and his son’s guilt he could still stand by him but he’s not doing that.

I'd guess the parents have been enabling their son's behaviour all his life, letting him absolve responsibility all his life.

Perhaps that laid the foundations for him to think he can do whatever he wants to others without consequences.

There's a cautionary tale to all us parents who have boys under 18. Let's make sure we're having conversations with them, asking them what they're attitudes are towards women, sex, consent.

Hold them accountable when they stuff up rather than turning the other cheek.

I do believe calling SOS and Jo evil though is incorrect. I think spineless is closer to the bone here.

 

[chippie]

I am a rape survivor (from more than one person). I am not detailing my experiences but you never get over it.

Some of the comments in here and on Facebook are actually making me feel sick and upset. I am going to have to step away from reading anything further.

There's a female perspective for you.

Neese out

I’m sorry for you Neese. What POS did was disgusting and his parents not accepting it is gross too. I get why someone who has suffered the trauma of rape wouldn’t want to relive the whole thing again through court ( I know they are reliving it most days anyway ) That girl was brave for standing up and going through the court process and hopefully the Silvagni’s at some stage will rightfully feel the shame they should and move on, rather than continuing to try and protect their reputation.

 

[Gavin Excell]

Exactly this. "Being a father" or "supporting your son" is not the equivalent of defending them to the end, in spite of the victim and the evidence. Supporting TS to learn from their mistakes. Supporting TS to take responsibility. Supporting TS through the difficult many years he is going to be incarcerated, and his life subsequent to parole.

Not ignoring the victim, and making stupid public statements as today essentially indicating they will fight it to the bitter end in denial.

Unless they (parents) genuinely believe he's innocent

 

[Mitchell Madness]

People smashing SOS need to first confirm if they have kids before posting coz you dont understand unless you have kids

If your son says he didnt do it you believe him

If my daughter committed a serious crime AND the evidence was that clear, I wouldn't disown her, id still love her, but I have enough common sense not to get infront of a camera and declare her innocence