Analysis Top five midfielders in the game right now

[WN123]

Petracca burns the footy more than Darcy and people froth over the Big Dee something shocking.

Double standards for other players


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Without looking too hard so do Oliver, Bontempelli, Wines, Miller, Dangerfield. All lower disposal efficiency and higher Clanger count.

 

[00Stinger]

Petracca burns the footy more than Darcy and people froth over the Big Dee something shocking.

Double standards for other players


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Haha bullshit

Some of his passing by foot and hands is amazing

Had you gone with Oliver I wouldn't have argued too much but with Petracca it's utter rubbish

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[faible]

This argument is such a weird way to diminish the value of a good player in an average team. How come Cunnington doesn’t get 10 votes every game? It makes no sense to say that players with less quality teammates get votes easily. Votes go to winning teams generally, so to get votes in an ordinary team, you need to play very well every time your team does happen to get a win.

Not diminishing Steele at all, the argument someone was using was that Macrae sharing votes with Bont is irrelevant, when it's clearly not.

Macrae is a very, very good footballer. Bontempelli just happens to be better, and in the same team.

Steele is a very, very good footballer, and has no one close to him, let alone better, in the same team.

 

[CrowInFiji]

One of those threads that everyone goes off their own club's best midfielder or else just with the big reputation guys. Everyone fights without a shred of evidence and we all feel dumber for it.

With that being said:

Laird
Keays
Schoenberg
Sloane
Miller

 

[faible]

Petracca burns the footy more than Darcy and people froth over the Big Dee something shocking.

Double standards for other players


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Yes but Petracca looks EXCITING when he does things. It's like Dangerfield, he does things that are EXCITING. Even his clangers are EXCITING.

 

[Sttew]

Forget previous seasons with points in the bank and focusing on this year.

The more strings to ones bow the better the midfielder in my opinion.

Bont - accumulate, score, best long range kick in the game, best mid offensively
Steele - accumulate, tackle, immune to spudness, very clean disposal at the coalface and around the ground
Parish - Disposal machine that doesn't stop, contested ball king, good disposal, carrying his side to some degree, doesn't stat pad unlike some
Walsh - Carrying his sides midfield, accumulates, tackles, covers the ground like a boss, sets up play after play, brownlow is a matter of when, not if
Dunkley - Was the best mid around till he did his shoulder in my opinion.

This list need adjusting? Am i biased with Steele? Dunkley no way you say? Shoot then....

Ollie Wines & Clayton Oliver in, Dunkley (you said right now) and Steele out

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

Petracca burns the footy more than Darcy and people froth over the Big Dee something shocking.

Double standards for other players


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I reckon Petracca/Danger types are more damaging per possession but they also torch it worse than a player like Parish. I’d consider Parish a safe user of the ball in comparison, I don’t think he’s a terrible user like some suggest.

There are room for both types in a side. Bont is the best as it stands because he’s great at everything.

 

[Juddernaut08]

Isn't it amazing that Parish is probably in the top 5 right now? 4 months ago no-one rated this dude but now he is absolutely elite.

Makes you question what are the Bombers nutritional staff feeding them down at Windy Hill?

 

[Veer Right]

Ollie Wines & Clayton Oliver in, Dunkley (you said right now) and Steele out

It's all personal opinion, my next two without changing my five would be the Brisbane pair, Zorko and Lyons. So still no Macrae, Wines or Oliver i am sorry to say, lmao.

 

[La Dispute]

Makes you question what are the Bombers nutritional staff feeding them down at Windy Hill?

We all know the answer to that question

 

[Veer Right]

Isn't it amazing that Parish is probably in the top 5 right now? 4 months ago no-one rated this dude but now he is absolutely elite.

Makes you question what are the Bombers nutritional staff feeding them down at Windy Hill?

It's got to be the coach/s Rutten and Caracella, no? Any coincidence they leave Richmond and the second Warsfold moves on, a lot of players on the bombers list are in career best form...

 

[HirdyLannister]

We all know the answer to that question

No we don't, the spreadsheet was lost.

 

[che09]

This narrative of Parish being a poor ball user compared to the likes of Bontempelli is just such a stretch. Obviously Parish's ball-use isn't as good as Bont's but it is nowhere near as bad as people are making it out to be.

Dangerfield Averages this year:
Kicking Eff: 58.5
Effective Disp: 15.8
Over Disp Eff: 62.5
I50’s: 6.5
Clangers: 4.8
Turnovers: 5.7
Tackles: 1.8
Pressure Acts: 10.3
Goal Assist: 1.3
Score Inv: 6.5

Bontempelli:
Kicking Eff: 64
Effective Disp: 19.1
Over Disp Eff: 70.2
I50’s: 7.1
Clangers: 3.9
Turnovers: 6.2
Tackles: 5.2
Pressure Acts: 21.4
Goal Assist: 1.2
Score Inv: 8.2

Parish:
Kicking Eff: 63.6
Effective Disp: 23.5
Over Disp Eff: 73.2
I50’s: 6.5
Clangers: 3.9
Turnovers: 6.5
Tackles: 3.9
Pressure Acts: 22.1
Goal Assist: 1.2
Score Inv: 7.7

 

[Elmer_Hauser]

Anyone who puts/rates Parish above Walsh is a nuffie.

Never change Essendon fans..

 

[Virgin Dog]

Anyone who puts/rates Parish above Walsh is a nuffie.

Never change Essendon fans..

It can be pretty hard to get a good judgement of exactly how good an Essendon player is, because probably close to a third of all AFL journalists are Essendon fans (just look at Trade Radio), meaning they will pump the players up far more than any other side. Same goes for Essendon's flag credentials - they're a middle of the table team at best, but the number of articles in recent weeks suggesting Essendon were a good chance at finals got ridiculous, when in reality they've beaten no one of note.

It's not the fault of Essendon fans themselves, and in Parish's case they have every right to hype him as an elite talent, because he is one. But there's little reason to suggest he's a better player than guys like Walsh, Wines or Macrae, with the primary difference being the other 3 don't get as much media hype.

 

[Instincts]

This narrative of Parish being a poor ball user compared to the likes of Bontempelli is just such a stretch. Obviously Parish's ball-use isn't as good as Bont's but it is nowhere near as bad as people are making it out to be.

Dangerfield Averages this year:
Kicking Eff: 58.5
Effective Disp: 15.8
Over Disp Eff: 62.5
I50’s: 6.5
Clangers: 4.8
Turnovers: 5.7
Tackles: 1.8
Pressure Acts: 10.3
Goal Assist: 1.3
Score Inv: 6.5
Meters Gained: 0.3
Goals: 537

Bontempelli:
Kicking Eff: 64
Effective Disp: 19.1
Over Disp Eff: 70.2
I50’s: 7.1
Clangers: 3.9
Turnovers: 6.2
Tackles: 5.2
Pressure Acts: 21.4
Goal Assist: 1.2
Score Inv: 8.2
Meters Gained: 575.8
Goals: 1.4

Parish:
Kicking Eff: 63.6
Effective Disp: 23.5
Over Disp Eff: 73.2
I50’s: 6.5
Clangers: 3.9
Turnovers: 6.5
Tackles: 3.9
Pressure Acts: 22.1
Goal Assist: 1.2
Score Inv: 7.7
Meters Gained: 507.7
Goals: 0.5

1. Add in stats such as goals and meters gained and the story changes a little. I added those stats in and bolded them
2. Kicks are classified as 'efficient' if they are 40m+ and the opposition don't mark it, regardless of what happens next, as a result, some players have deceptively high kick efficiencies. A couple examples being Jack Ziebell and Bailey Smith who have unimpactful but long kicks to contests. Parish does some really good inside work but I've watched his kicking and it's similar to the previous two players I've mentioned

 

[yyou]

For 2021
1. Bont
2. Oliver
3. Parish
4. Wines
5. Steele

Wanted to get Walsh & Miller in, but couldn't do it. Also, surprised at the lack of recognition Hopper gets.

 

[Jakksynn]

Gotta say Walsh is fast becoming overrated. Doing amazing things as a 21 year old sure, but compared to the best of the best? Nah.

 

[Red Black and Blue]

The talk of Parish's disposal being bad are nonsense. Go look at his thirteen turnovers from the weekend on the AFL app. 7 of them were kicks to advantage that the forwards did a horrible job with. Half of them Hooker got first hands to. Most of the others were handballs while being tackled. There we about 3 bad kicks in the bunch.

 

[ExYarraValley]

Guthrie tried on Friday and he burned him off.

Guthrie fixed up Merret.

 

[WN123]

Guthrie fixed up Merret.

Is that the same Merrett who had 36 disposals. Guthrie definitely started on Parish and it looked to be a hard tag. It just wasn’t really slowing him down.

 

[andrewb]

Is that the same Merrett who had 36 disposals. Guthrie definitely started on Parish and it looked to be a hard tag. It just wasn’t really slowing him down.

If we had more than 8-9 contributors every week we might actually be a good team

 

[Dave]

when in reality they've beaten no one of note.

Beating West Cost in Perth no longer of note?

 

[WillHayward]

1. Bont
2. Dusty
3. Neale
4. Petracca
5. Dangerfield


I know which 5 I would rather have

Can't count Neale this season .

 

[bomberbilly]

Anyone who puts/rates Parish above Walsh is a nuffie.

Never change Essendon fans..

Says a Carlton supporter