Strategy Trade and List management Thread (cont in Part 2)

[BevoRambo]

Biggsy comes up with a piece of gold on stage re best moment of career... so loose. His antics will be missed.


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[ossie_21]

Biggsy comes up with a piece of gold on stage re best moment of career... so loose. His antics will be missed.


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What was it?

 

[BevoRambo]

What was it?

Not the GF. Not his debut. Not the entire 2016 finals campaign. Or his first goal or even being traded to the dogs for a second chance.

Moreso. Round 1 in 2016 and JJ rocking up with his hair disaster. In his book that was the most fav moment of his whole career. Solid form.


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[Gareth_]

7 & 20 for Wingard at 900k a year is well overs.

I think the chad is regressing already probably due to him wanting midfield time.

 

[TimlinOfficial]

via sirswampthing on twitter:

'Average age for the WBD top 10 in the B&F tonight - 22 years & 291 days The second youngest for any top 10 in the past 9 seasons (GWS in 2013)'

We're gonna be just fine

 

[Bulldogs Legend]

“Has” indicates past tense. I’m happy waiting but am bemused as to why there would be a delay in announcing it. It’s not as if they’ve released much and wanted to keep our name in the headlines. Strange days indeed.

He only got back in the last day so that would explain it.


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[JJHunter]

Is Wingard really worth pick 7 and 20?
I’m just not convinced that the value is worth more than what slips at pick 7. Particularly if we are paying him 900K+ a year.

Where do port finish next year !?
You see he leaves as free agent and gets rd 1 compo they get about a pick 7-10 at worst next year.

They are not letting him go for that this year esp when there is no certainty they get a lukocious rankine or Rozee at 7.

So need something like a 1st and 2nd to entice.

Moot point anyway - he is staying imo

 

[Dogs Rule]

He may or may not be the right fit (probably not), but this is the quality of person we want at our club.

Very impressive.

Tom Bell tells Michael Whiting how the club treated him after being cut
http://m.afl.com.au/news/2018-10-04/what-the-lions-brains-trust-told-axed-midfielder

 

[Zephiisdaman]

This is NOT a reason to bring in a player

Disagree. it's a very good reason to bring in a player.
There are multiple reasons why a club recruits certain types of players.
One persons rubbish is another persons treasure.

 

[dergert]

Libba has been given a 2 week ultimatum to show the club he wants a new deal/ make up his mind.

 

[Doggy]

Libba has been given a 2 week ultimatum to show the club he wants a new deal/ make up his mind.

Since when .. according to Stevo he will be staying

 

[Tommycash]

https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/thre...-season-edition.1180583/page-57#post-53643901

fabulous response! Thank you

 

[_M_16_]

Wingard has not indicated he wants to stay, nor that he is leaving Port Adelaide according to their head of football. At this point in time he will be there in 2019. Will need to make a decision soon though, trade week starts next Monday yeah?

On the plus side, Ports goal is to maintain its current list, but they would also like to move up in the draft and will discuss the move with some clubs above them in the draft order. So should Wingard nominate us, or both us and Hawks, Pick 7 will give us the upper hand in early negotiations.

 

[Bulldogs Legend]

Bevo wanted gowers, reject from shambles carlton... turns out Bevo knew more then Carlton (and Dary). Bevo wanted Crozier, a nobody at middling freo, turns out Bevo knew how to unleash what Lyon had leashed. I reckon if bevo thinks he can get something out of Lloyd the Tigers couldn't, I'm gonna give him the benefit of the doubt, I may even be a touch excited to see what he sees, given recent history.

And talking to Tiger supporters eg my wife they all think Lloyd has been unlucky and would have to played more over the last year or so if the Tigers had more injuries.


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[Bulldogs Legend]

Steve Grace the VFL coach was Billy Gowers coach before he was picked up by Carlton. Dalrymple wanted Crozier, but was over
ruled by coach crack in who wanted Clay Smith instead, probably kept an eye on Croziers progression. The Austin fellow is out
of Richmond so maybe just maybe he had a little to do with our interest in Lloyd, but of course Bevo could have the all seeing
eye and be responsible for all life on planet earth.

It’s on record Bevo wanted Gowers and had him around for dinner before he was selected as told by Gowers himself. No doubt others at the club wanted him as well but Bevo definitely did.


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[Bulldogs Legend]

Lol was about to post that also. Plenty of love there!

Can’t you spot the person behind them with a gun forcing them to stand there?

On a serious note congratulations to all three and it was good to see the club acknowledged them formally.


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[Bulldogs Legend]

Is Wingard really worth pick 7 and 20?
I’m just not convinced that the value is worth more than what slips at pick 7. Particularly if we are paying him 900K+ a year.

He may not be but sometimes the club needs to take risks as they did with Toyd.

You won’t win them all but when you do a stadium can hold its breath and if you don’t plenty of fodder for BF!


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[Bulldogs Legend]

Absolutely he needs to be resigned, i would not be surprised if other clubs throw 1.5mil a year at him next year

Take it to the Bank Bont will resign.


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[House_of_Dahl]

Wingard has not indicated he wants to stay, nor that he is leaving Port Adelaide according to their head of football. At this point in time he will be there in 2019. Will need to make a decision soon though, trade week starts next Monday yeah?

On the plus side, Ports goal is to maintain its current list, but they would also like to move up in the draft and will discuss the move with some clubs above them in the draft order. So should Wingard nominate us, or both us and Hawks, Pick 7 will give us the upper hand in early negotiations.

Yeah was listening on trade radio this morning. Gave me the impression they are more than happy for Wingard to leave this year for a good deal vs free agency next year.

 

[fronkalicious]

Draft picks are, by and large, over valued. They’re just a commodity to parlay into talent for your list.

Not only that, if teams just continue to use their picks to draft kids, they de-value even moreso. Some recent examples:

Gold Coast turning 2016 pick 7 (jack scrimshaw) into a borderline delist.

Gws turning 2016 pick 5 (will setterfield) into a 2nd or 3rd rounder (according to Cal Twomey).

It’s time to parlay our picks into mature talent (especially with west and khamis coming in).

We hit all the right markers to make it a no brainer.

1. We have more than enough young talent
2. Our young players have had, and will continue to have (even with the introduction of some mature talent) opportunity.
3. We have cap space.

Push the chips into the middle of the table dogs.

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

Absolutely he needs to be resigned, i would not be surprised if other clubs throw 1.5mil a year at him next year

Take it to the Bank Bont will resign.


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Careful, you will cause mass panic. Use a little device called a hyphen - imperative in this case. Big difference between "resign" and "re-sign".

 

[LittleG]

Draft picks are, by and large, over valued. They’re just a commodity to parlay into talent for your list.

Not only that, if teams just continue to use their picks to draft kids, they de-value even moreso. Some recent examples:

Gold Coast turning 2016 pick 7 (jack scrimshaw) into a borderline delist.

Gws turning 2016 pick 5 (will setterfield) into a 2nd or 3rd rounder (according to Cal Twomey).

It’s time to parlay our picks into mature talent (especially with west and khamis coming in).

We hit all the right markers to make it a no brainer.

1. We have more than enough young talent
2. Our young players have had, and will continue to have (even with the introduction of some mature talent) opportunity.
3. We have cap space.

Push the chips into the middle of the table dogs.

^^^^ this ^^^^

Fronk:
Can we get W Setterfield? I had huge wraps on the kid in his draft year. Happily pay a the Dahl comp and get some later/future picks as change.

 

[Mr. Walker]

Can't remember the name of the journalist (Tom Morris but may have that wrong) on the 3AW sports program at 6 pm last night said "Bulldogs are still leading the race for Chad Wingard".

For what its worth.

 

[glenashley]

A nothing article in the HUN linking us to Menzel. If you actually read the article all it says it that he's unlikely to be at the cats and would be a good fit for the dogs.

Really getting over these cheap headlines.

 

[Unorth]

A nothing article in the HUN linking us to Menzel. If you actually read the article all it says it that he's unlikely to be at the cats and would be a good fit for the dogs.

Really getting over these cheap headlines.

Media: "[Player] has been linked to [Club]"

Everyone else: "Who's linking them?"

Media: "We are"