List Mgmt. Trade/Draft SuperMegaUltraThread - 2016 edition?

[Falco]

Bet you a carton we would. GOLD coasts 22 or 25 but the club won't do it.

I'm with you. There's no way a guy who's best 22 at a finals bound side isnt worth anything. He's 27, played 160 games, he's durable and would add something to their side just like Rosa did this year. The club should do it but won't. I reckon Duggan would take his spot, freeing him up to play his more natural game on the outside/wing, with less time on the ball. I think Duggan's going to develop into a more complete player than Masten so I'd take it.

 

[ROYAL EAGLE]

We should be talking to Hawthorn for Lamb for Hill swap.

Then get Steven from Freo.

Why would you want Brad Hill for?
Club has ruled out trading for him.

 

[new breed]

Prestia has told GC he wants a trade to a Melbourne Club ...

 

[avishka5]

surely masten worths more than rosa. Masto is younger, less injury prone, more skillfull and has much better endurance with more runs on the board. yes he is a failed pick 3 but he has been a very good second tier mid in the last 5 years. Picks 25-30 is probably his worth.

 

[Wadsworth]

surely masten worths more than rosa. Masto is younger, less injury prone, more skillfull and has much better endurance with more runs on the board. yes he is a failed pick 3 but he has been a very good second tier mid in the last 5 years. Picks 25-30 is probably his worth.

Agree. Draft picks are so hit or miss but we tend to rate them like they're a sure thing. Masten is what he is by now, but definitely best 22 in a finals side. A second round pick could be Tom Lamb, or Gerrick Weedon, or Luke Shuey.

 

[ArdentEagle]

And who traded with us would be checking for their watches, shirt, wallets, girlfriend's .......

Emac AND Masten + our 3rd for 22 + 23 sound fair to me...I think GC would be interested.
What would you value them at?

 

[BOND 007]

McKenzie isn't tradeable anymore. Everybody knows he is coming back from an ACL and in horrid form. Every supporter wants to package a WAFL/VFL player into a trade - it doesn't work. Barrass is the only player in our backline that clubs will want.

McKenzie is most certainly traceable in the sense you mean it. There are probably 5-6 clubs I can think of who have/will enquire about McKenzie.

 

[Falco]

They've got 21, 22, 25 and 28 according to this article. It assumes they finish 14th which is correct.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-07-05/indicative-draft-order-giants-suns-set-for-2016-draft-windfall

 

[Falco]

McKenzie is most certainly traceable in the sense you mean it. There are probably 5-6 clubs I can think of who have/will enquire about McKenzie.

Do you know if the club is targeting any of GC's second rounders mate? Are there any murmurs of moving on more than Mackenzie, Brown or Lamb?

 

[Godfather32]

They've got 21, 22, 25 and 28 according to this article. It assumes they finish 14th which is correct.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-07-05/indicative-draft-order-giants-suns-set-for-2016-draft-windfall

They could have way more picks than they need after Prestia, O'meara & Swallow leave, they're going to need some experienced players for the next couple of years, I'd be throwing any and all of our fringe players at them and seeing what we can get back in picks

 

[BOND 007]

Do you know if the club is targeting any of GC's second rounders mate? Are there any murmurs of moving on more than Mackenzie, Brown or Lamb?

Bit early in the piece - lots of water to go under the bridge before those type of discussions take place

 

[avishka5]

McKenzie is most certainly traceable in the sense you mean it. There are probably 5-6 clubs I can think of who have/will enquire about McKenzie.

what do you think he worths?

 

[Falco]

They could have way more picks than they need after Prestia, O'meara & Swallow leave, they're going to need some experienced players for the next couple of years, I'd be throwing any and all of our fringe players at them and seeing what we can get back in picks

Sounds a bit like Brisbane after the 'go-home five' circa 2013.

 

[avishka5]

Agree. Draft picks are so hit or miss but we tend to rate them like they're a sure thing. Masten is what he is by now, but definitely best 22 in a finals side. A second round pick could be Tom Lamb, or Gerrick Weedon, or Luke Shuey.

its a very deep draft this year so we could find someone decent.

 

[Falco]

Bit early in the piece - lots of water to go under the bridge before those type of discussions take place

October post season?

 

[Falco]

Delist:
McGinnity
Colledge
Lucas
Bennell

Undecided:
Brophy
McInness

Possible Trade Bait that we know of:
Brown (unrestricted FA)
Mackenzie
Lamb

Retire:
Cavka
Ellis

 

[mattyc75]

Bit early in the piece - lots of water to go under the bridge before those type of discussions take place

Do you think Adamson will be upgraded?

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[BOND 007]

what do you think he worths?

In a pure sense somewhere between 15 & 30. People forget quickly how good he was. Sure he missed a yr & lost confidence this season but he certainly hasn't dropped to "nil value" as some here suggest. If Carlton couldn't swing deals for say Marchbank & Tomlinson - then he would be worth every bit that as a teacher to Weitering.

WC will want a serious return or he stays.

 

[Wadsworth]

its a very deep draft this year so we could find someone decent.

Absolutely. We could find someone. But we could just as easily strike out. That's the nature of draft picks. I'm as guilty as the next bloke of seeing a few minute highlight film and reading comparisons to star players. But we need to discount those projections substantially based on the uncertainty of it all. It's why players like Masten are rarely traded unless they want out.

 

[BOND 007]

Do you think Adamson will be upgraded?

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Really don't know. He's certainly showing good signs.

 

[Yamumluvsbigcox]

WC will want a serious return or he stays.

Agreed contracted BnF of a couple of years ago . No way we part with him unless a serious offer is made especially if he wants to go to one of our rival flag contenders .

 

[avishka5]

Absolutely. We could find someone. But we could just as easily strike out. That's the nature of draft picks. I'm as guilty as the next bloke of seeing a few minute highlight film and reading comparisons to star players. But we need to discount those projections substantially based on the uncertainty of it all. It's why players like Masten are rarely traded unless they want out.

yeah. my original comment was for those that don't rate masten netting us a decent pick.

 

[Pat_Footy]

We should be talking to Hawthorn for Lamb for Hill swap.

Then get Steven from Freo.

Why would Hill even be on the radar? That just sounds like an opportunistic grab like Jetta was. Lobb is a powerful AFL player already. Hill is just a player wanting to return to WA.

 

[Biggie]

McKenzie is most certainly traceable in the sense you mean it. There are probably 5-6 clubs I can think of who have/will enquire about McKenzie.

Thank christ you answered this BOND 007

Ridiculous to think Eric has no currency.

He'd be worth top 15- 20 pick I would've thought?

EDIT: just saw your post re: his worth

 

[swooshacummings]

Who would come out of tonight's midfield for them but

Who cares. That is answered by form in the medium to long term.