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I'd do it but I don't think it'll happen
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Was rumored to have been about $130k when he was recruited.
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I would still want him but tbh i have beeb watching him closely recently and he isnt great 1 on 1 and does make errors.
As i said though i still want him, is still very young and has a lot of developing left
Could be true but even that sounds excessive for a newbie graduate.
Maybe the job required site work, like our fly in fly out type miners, in which case possible I guess.
If you have a quick perusal at job vacancies for new graduate engineers it's easy to see that the salaries they get are generally no where near the 6 figures.
Sure senior engineers who work on major projects can earn silly salaries, (well deserved) but like anything you have to do your time.
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Hoping that's true. Lever is a very promising young kid. No doubt about it. But we need another tall forward way more than a defender.
Would do. Mids are a dime a dozen. KPF not so much.
Agree. The $$$ and trades being bandied around are ridic. I'd rather Josh Kelly.
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yeah I think its way to early to judge but right now they would be looking at brennan cox first season and be wondering if they made the right call. Brennan has been v good. Still positive on Sam.
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Yeah I was musing what sort of trade period we might have this morning bc there are a lot of different possibilities. Some of my thoughts;
Forwards
If we assume Moore and Reid are key forwards (and I think we should) then I am not sure we need another tall. I think we actually need some speed as opposed to more height so I am not necessarily a fan of another tall. I would like to see Daicos / Kirby, Elliott, Fasolo, Wells and JDG operating around them with a young kid drafted who has a grade speed to keep that ball in.
I would look at a Miers / Daniels / Spargo / Handley / Schloithe (mature age). Liam Ryan another who i think would take time but he has improved this year on the defensive side.
A trade option could be Brandon Matera but not sure he has the defensive mindset but I would look at him but I suspect he will go WCE.
As a left field option I would look at Daniel Menzel as a RFA.
Backs
Jake Lever is the key. Ideally you dont give up pick 6 but ultimately I think it will come down to that or Scharenberg. I would probably keep Scharenberg as am a huge fan and believe he has shown huge improvement in last 4-5 games. You dont give up class players easily. Having said that our need to rebuild spine is huge and if we thought pick 6/7 would get us Brander I would be ok if they opted that way as then gives you McLarty and Brander and potentially another decent back key position player with a later pick.
Would be looking at Ben Paton as a fast defensive small with terrific skills and would also look at Trent McKenzie if MS went.
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In an ideal world for me we fix the KP posts because under a new coach we won't have access to this level of draft pick, IMO. We have to strike while we keep getting access to early picks.
There's also a sense of frustration for me because we had chances despite not investing early draft. Cox last year, McGovern in 14 and McCarthy in 13. The irony is that all three will probably be Dockers in 2018 and their KPF profile was as poor as ours three years ago.
I'm not overly keen on Lever because I just can't justify what it will take to get him plus I think he'll choose Melbourne. I also haven't seen enough to be certain he can be the man to build a defence around such as Andrews. I'm on board with an investment in speed and skill this off-season, but it would help if we used WHE better. In the end there's only 4 names on my radar for pick 5/6/7 Stephenson, Fogarty, Brander and Balta I'd definitely have to bow to your judgement there though.
Too many of our better players are trade in's so no matter what direction we take it's imperative that we invest in the draft. To sit 13th with just one player in the 22 U22 squad is terrible!
I'm not sure that Collingwood should make Lever their #1 priority.
Lever is a terrific player, but he plays the 3rd back/intercept marking role. Talia and recently Keath have taken the bigger forwards.
We already have Howe, Sharenberg and even Langdon that can play that role. Lever may be better than all of those listed, but it's not an area where we have a pressing weakness. Why chew up our salary cap and trade away draft selections on an area that isn't one that will lead to major team improvement? We need a big, key back in preference to the role that Lever plays. Dunn has been serviceable, but he's not there for the long term. Maybe it will be McLarty down the track.
We also need a key forward -I'd be looking at McGovern over Lever. Then throw the kitchen sink at Lynch from Gold Coast when he becomes a free agent at the end of next season.
Lever is a terrific player, but he plays the 3rd back/intercept marking role. Talia and recently Keath have taken the bigger forwards.
We already have Howe, Sharenberg and even Langdon that can play that role. Lever may be better than all of those listed, but it's not an area where we have a pressing weakness. Why chew up our salary cap and trade away draft selections on an area that isn't one that will lead to major team improvement? We need a big, key back in preference to the role that Lever plays. Dunn has been serviceable, but he's not there for the long term. Maybe it will be McLarty down the track.
We also need a key forward -I'd be looking at McGovern over Lever. Then throw the kitchen sink at Lynch from Gold Coast when he becomes a free agent at the end of next season.
Yeah if he keeps improving for another few years it's going to take a lot more than that to get him to the pies.
That's crazy, the median graduate salary is $63k, $130k is associate level salary.
Going to quote this post I still feel strongly about. I really don't want the club to pursue Jake Lever.
Pick 6 for Brisbane's 14 and 18. Think this would be a wise move. Allows us to draft a tall (Balta/McNaughton) and a line breaking player (O'Brien/Ling) obviously just examples but I would be all for it.
More noise surrounding Jake Stringer on the way out of the kennel.
From Fox Footy's news re-cap;
THE STRINGER TEMPTATION
WITH the Western Bulldogs’ premiership defence in tatters, it’s possible that a number of players could be on the chopping block — or at least up for trade.
And a premiership Hawk believes coach Luke Beveridge could be tempted to trade one of his biggest stars if the right deal presented itself.
Jake Stringer is contracted until the end of 2018, but has had an indifferent season, kicking 24 goals from 16 games.
Campbell Brown believes he could be one of a number of tradeable commodities.
“If you can get a good enough deal for him then I think anyone can be traded out,” Campbell said on SEN.
“He hasn’t got to where he wanted to get to this year and there are probably multiple reasons behind that.
“The club has to continue to evolve and that will mean player changes.”
Despite this, Campbell warned caution on behalf of the Bulldogs.
“You have to remember that one poor year doesn’t make you expendable to the footy club. It’s can be a fine line because decisions can come back to haunt you,” he said.
“The real test of the Western Bulldogs’ talent will be next season.
“They’ll learn a lot from this year and the test will be can they rectify it and get back to where they were last year.”
With that in mind and the club being linked strongly with Darling, how much more (or less?) do we think Stringer would cost compared to Darling? I would slightly prefer Stringer as he is a bit younger and has more goal kicking avenue's then Darling.
Would a first rounder and a shuffle of picks in the second/third round get the deal done?
From Fox Footy's news re-cap;
THE STRINGER TEMPTATION
WITH the Western Bulldogs’ premiership defence in tatters, it’s possible that a number of players could be on the chopping block — or at least up for trade.
And a premiership Hawk believes coach Luke Beveridge could be tempted to trade one of his biggest stars if the right deal presented itself.
Jake Stringer is contracted until the end of 2018, but has had an indifferent season, kicking 24 goals from 16 games.
Campbell Brown believes he could be one of a number of tradeable commodities.
“If you can get a good enough deal for him then I think anyone can be traded out,” Campbell said on SEN.
“He hasn’t got to where he wanted to get to this year and there are probably multiple reasons behind that.
“The club has to continue to evolve and that will mean player changes.”
Despite this, Campbell warned caution on behalf of the Bulldogs.
“You have to remember that one poor year doesn’t make you expendable to the footy club. It’s can be a fine line because decisions can come back to haunt you,” he said.
“The real test of the Western Bulldogs’ talent will be next season.
“They’ll learn a lot from this year and the test will be can they rectify it and get back to where they were last year.”
With that in mind and the club being linked strongly with Darling, how much more (or less?) do we think Stringer would cost compared to Darling? I would slightly prefer Stringer as he is a bit younger and has more goal kicking avenue's then Darling.
Would a first rounder and a shuffle of picks in the second/third round get the deal done?
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Jack watts > Jake Stringer.
What's a trade period without a Demons player joining Collingwood. Jack Watts perfect 3rd forward.
What's a trade period without a Demons player joining Collingwood. Jack Watts perfect 3rd forward.
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I'm happy for Cox to leave. If we can poach either Sinclair, D. Cameron or Naismith. One of these blokes will probably want to leave as Sydney have too much tall timber, especially with Reid resigning.
Sinclair and Grundy would be a good mix especially with how well Sinclair played as a forward against St.kilda. He beat Jake Carlisle.
Sinclair and Grundy would be a good mix especially with how well Sinclair played as a forward against St.kilda. He beat Jake Carlisle.
Stringer is a sinking ship imo.
Had a poor season this year but so have most of the dogs. Would Cox and a Second/third rounder be a decent enough deal for Stringer?
He's on the decline. Maybe a fresh club would be good for him but the dogs would want more than that. They would be asking for a top 10 pick.
The problem with stringer is the off field stuff. Nothing to call cops about but not family friendly.
The other bulldog floated as trade bait was Libba whom also has off field stuff.
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