Trade period / National Draft 2024

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[JR82]

It probably isn’t realistic but the point remains that clubs in Richmond’s position with one of the oldest lists in the league and now also one of the least talented…are going to have to get extremely creative during the off season over the next 3-4 seasons to not be left behind.

Fortunately for us, not many in our position have a draft hand like ours, potentially 5/30 twice in the space of 3 yrs, before bottoming out. Live ladder, Hawks have 2 & 26 for this yrs draft & that's it! Yikes!

 

[sanaya]

We get him in 3 years and give him #4

is that before or after we get tom green ?

 

[THE_GUN]

I personally believe Gold Coast will be the team we will most likely trade with
#8 , #11 , #20

 

[JR82]

Taken from Zerohangar & re-ordered them.

Gold Coast 8, 11, 20, 29, 31, 48 5353
Fremantle 6, 12, 16, 27, 63 4901
Richmond 4, 24, 32, 41, 42, 50, 60, 62, 72 4771
North Melbourne 1, 21, 39, 57, 66 4586
Hawthorn 2, 26 3246
West Coast 3, 23, 59 3207
Adelaide 5, 34, 43, 61 2933
St Kilda 7, 38, 51, 52 2614
Melbourne 14, 35, 45, 46, 70 2400
Sydney 15, 19, 53, 71 2322
Brisbane 9, 47, 58, 65 2045
Essendon 10, 30 2024
Carlton 13, 33, 64, 67, 68 2004
GWS 18, 25, 56, 74 1935
Geelong 17, 37, 55, 73 1724
Collingwood 22, 40, 44 1636
Bulldogs 28, 49 964
Port Adelaide 36, 54, 69 771 LOL

 

[Ctl]

Taken from Zerohangar & re-ordered them.

Gold Coast 8, 11, 20, 29, 31, 48 5353
Fremantle 6, 12, 16, 27, 63 4901
Richmond 4, 24, 32, 41, 42, 50, 60, 62, 72 4771
North Melbourne 1, 21, 39, 57, 66 4586
Hawthorn 2, 26 3246
West Coast 3, 23, 59 3207
Adelaide 5, 34, 43, 61 2933
St Kilda 7, 38, 51, 52 2614
Melbourne 14, 35, 45, 46, 70 2400
Sydney 15, 19, 53, 71 2322
Brisbane 9, 47, 58, 65 2045
Essendon 10, 30 2024
Carlton 13, 33, 64, 67, 68 2004
GWS 18, 25, 56, 74 1935
Geelong 17, 37, 55, 73 1724
Collingwood 22, 40, 44 1636
Bulldogs 28, 49 964
Port Adelaide 36, 54, 69 771 LOL

Hopefully Levi Ashcroft goes number 1, then Brisbane will need points.

 

[Frustrated Tiger]

https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/redleg-ned-bowmans-huge-hanger-sets-tongues-wagging-and-puts-afl-clubs-on-red-alert/news-story/71134942a337de585a9b0d295b4a9053?amp&nk=f8ac212cffa138b78a107b500e884f30-1712649611

Then injured. He's a lock then.

 

[THE_GUN]

is that before or after we get tom green ?

Same year

Green Free agent end of 2027
Reid 2026

 

[guruisatiger]

I personally believe Gold Coast will be the team we will most likely trade with
#8 , #11 , #20

Brisbane only have there first rounder this year and they have Ashcroft and 2 good academy kids, they won't want to go into deficit in 2025, so we could easily trade for there first

 

[guruisatiger]

On the basis that the Lions finish 3rd, the ladder stays at it currently does, but with clubs starting from Port and ending with Essendon all moving down 1 place, the Lions will have picks 16, 54, 58 and 72 (a total of 409 points if you exclude pick 16).

If Levi Ashcroft is bidded on within the first 5 picks on draft night, then Lions will need to pay the following in points (with the 20% discount applied):

• Pick 1: 2400 points (1991 taking into account the 409 points Lions already have)
• Pick 2: 2014 points (1605)
• Pick 3: 1788 points (1378)
• Pick 4: 1628 points (1219)
• Pick 5: 1503 points (1094)

Taking into account the ladder scenario described above, we would have:

• Pick 4: 2034 points
• Pick 24: 785 points
• Pick 31: 606 points
• Pick 41: 412 points
• Pick 42: 395 points
• Pick 49: 287 points
• Pick 60: 146 points
• Pick 62: 123 points
• Pick 71: 29 points

Using your example of picks 24, 42 and 49 (in this scenario), that would be an equivalent of 1467 points, so enough for Brisbane to match at pick 3.



When we talk about trading picks in terms of points for matching bids, the number of points associated with Brisbane's pick 16 (in this scenario) is often irrelevant, in my opinion. The important number is the number of points the Lions need so they can match a bid at a given spot in the draft (so 1991 points if they believe the team with pick 1 will bid there, 1605 points if they believe the earliest bid is at pick 2, etc...).

Cheers they also have 2 good academy kids as well

 

[THE_GUN]

Brisbane only have there first rounder this year and they have Ashcroft and 2 good academy kids, they won't want to go into deficit in 2025, so we could easily trade for there first

Would we want to ?

There are better 1st rounders like GC & Crows that we could have in our sights

 

[Blinger]

Don't expect Tassie to get the same kind of ridiculous draft concessions as the Giants and the Suns in the first year especially. Dillion (I think it was) made a point of this a few weeks ago that they learned a lot from the heavily compromised drafts and that it was likely that Tassie will get concessions spread out over more drafts but would get access to more mature age players from the beginning. They realise that you can't just flood the list with kids and expect them to all be successful straight away.

I would imagine that the AFL will give them a number of draft concessions, with a certain amount of picks that will need to be traded to other teams for mature players & also access to certain amount of free agents. I cant see Tassie entering the competition without the draft being compromised for at least a couple of seasons. If other clubs play it smart, I can see where they might benefit from Tassie entering the comp. But also other teams that are towards the bottom of the ladder in maybe a rebuild stage that might struggle for at least a few extra years due to the extra team coming in. Hopefully we make some smart decisions over the next few seasons before Tassie enter the comp, as I don't think our supporters will cope if we are rebuilding still.

 

[guruisatiger]

Would we want to ?

There are better 1st rounders like GC & Crows that we could have in our sights

True , but there's back up as well

 

[noobermensch]

If you take requests, could you please do Lombard and Hotton?

I think I posted Hotton already, here's Lombard:

Lombard had some standout moments where he flashed his talent. A fantastic athlete with lovely balance and an intense competitor, it was no surprise that when the Academy came back into the game in the second half he was heavily involved.

 

[Drunken Wookie]

I know its early days but I'm super underwhelmed so far by this draft crop from whats been presented.

 

[Maurice Mitchell]

A first look at the intriguing talent of Kayle Gerreyn in 2024. Athletic, quick and agile for a guy his size, combined with clean hands and solid kicking skills off either foot.

One thing I noticed in that video is that there’s another Bewick at West Perth.

Pretty sure he won’t take a better mark than Corry Bewick.

 

[THE_GUN]

I think I posted Hotton already, here's Lombard:

Lombard had some standout moments where he flashed his talent. A fantastic athlete with lovely balance and an intense competitor, it was no surprise that when the Academy came back into the game in the second half he was heavily involved.

This kid will be a player

Dimma has alot of weapons coming through

 

[noobermensch]

"Moares", "Morares", "Morez"... it doesnt matter what the commentators call him, Christian Moraes is one of the top prospects in this year's draft.

He had a strange game here. Starting on a wing and getting a bit lost in the first quarter, a move on ball in the second sparked him into life and he racked up 10 touches in the quarter. He game ended prematurely in the third quarter when he was crunched in a marking contest and looked to have copped a knee in the ribs.

 

[TheOptimum18]

BIDDING CHANGES COULD ARRIVE IN 2024​

THE AFL hasn't ruled out making changes to its Academy and father-son bidding system as early as this year, with the League to review the process at the conclusion of its ongoing competitive balance reviews.

Speaking to AFL.com.au on Wednesday, the AFL's chief executive Andrew Dillon said the League was in the final stages of its meetings with clubs and was considering alterations to the bidding process as early as 2024.

"It will depend on the timing of when the review is finished. I wouldn't rule it out, coming in during 2024. But I'm not saying it will either," Dillon said.

As revealed on AFL.com.au last October, the League has already written to clubs saying it will review the bidding system, Next Generation Academy incentive and the Draft Value Index to ensure teams with Academy players are paying a fairer price to match bids at the draft.

It comes after Gold Coast matched bids on four Academy players inside the first round of the draft last season (Jed Walter, Ethan Read, Jake Rogers and Will Graham), with Sydney (Caiden Cleary) also matching a first-round bid on its own Academy talent later in the night.

"We are looking at all of our competitive balance mechanisms at the moment with the review going on. The Academies will stay, but we will certainly be looking at the bidding system, the points system, and all of those things," Dillon said.

"It's to make sure that the draft, because there are compromises to it, but we want to make sure that if you are getting elite talent on your list, that you're paying the appropriate price for that."

The AFL is also expecting to inform clubs on whether payouts made to players forced to prematurely retire due to concussion are included inside or outside of the salary cap in the coming weeks.

It comes after Melbourne's Angus Brayshaw and Collingwood's Nathan Murphy were both forced into retirement earlier this year, having fronted an independent concussion panel following a series of head knocks.

"The salary cap, or Total Player Payments, are an important part of our competitive balance mechanisms," Dillon said.

"What we are working through with the clubs, first of all internally, is whether there is a mechanism whereby potentially a proportion of the payments made to a player who is forced to a retire as a result of going before the AFL panel … does it make sense for a proportion of that to be outside the cap?

"There's a couple of players at the moment. We'll work through with those clubs on that. What we're hoping to do, and what we will do, is set aside a policy where it's known to all clubs what the provisions are. We're talking weeks, at the most." – Riley Beveridge

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[Coach_Required]

BIDDING CHANGES COULD ARRIVE IN 2024​

THE AFL hasn't ruled out making changes to its Academy and father-son bidding system as early as this year, with the League to review the process at the conclusion of its ongoing competitive balance reviews.

Speaking to AFL.com.au on Wednesday, the AFL's chief executive Andrew Dillon said the League was in the final stages of its meetings with clubs and was considering alterations to the bidding process as early as 2024.

"It will depend on the timing of when the review is finished. I wouldn't rule it out, coming in during 2024. But I'm not saying it will either," Dillon said.

As revealed on AFL.com.au last October, the League has already written to clubs saying it will review the bidding system, Next Generation Academy incentive and the Draft Value Index to ensure teams with Academy players are paying a fairer price to match bids at the draft.

It comes after Gold Coast matched bids on four Academy players inside the first round of the draft last season (Jed Walter, Ethan Read, Jake Rogers and Will Graham), with Sydney (Caiden Cleary) also matching a first-round bid on its own Academy talent later in the night.

"We are looking at all of our competitive balance mechanisms at the moment with the review going on. The Academies will stay, but we will certainly be looking at the bidding system, the points system, and all of those things," Dillon said.

"It's to make sure that the draft, because there are compromises to it, but we want to make sure that if you are getting elite talent on your list, that you're paying the appropriate price for that."

The AFL is also expecting to inform clubs on whether payouts made to players forced to prematurely retire due to concussion are included inside or outside of the salary cap in the coming weeks.

It comes after Melbourne's Angus Brayshaw and Collingwood's Nathan Murphy were both forced into retirement earlier this year, having fronted an independent concussion panel following a series of head knocks.

"The salary cap, or Total Player Payments, are an important part of our competitive balance mechanisms," Dillon said.

"What we are working through with the clubs, first of all internally, is whether there is a mechanism whereby potentially a proportion of the payments made to a player who is forced to a retire as a result of going before the AFL panel … does it make sense for a proportion of that to be outside the cap?

"There's a couple of players at the moment. We'll work through with those clubs on that. What we're hoping to do, and what we will do, is set aside a policy where it's known to all clubs what the provisions are. We're talking weeks, at the most." – Riley Beveridge

Swan's big contract call, Lion weighs up offer, Tiger's trigger

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www.afl.com.au

That's so typical and so ******* full of s**t. AFL change the rules the year we look like getting some kind of benefit.
What a ******* rort this competition is, changing rules as they go along to fit their agenda.

 

[Ctl]

https://archive.md/WiVCj#selection-1843.0-1936.0

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-trade-news-st-kilda-geelong-adelaide-and-essendon-among-clubs-chasing-hugh-mccluggage/news-story/1fa6cb701ed8ffd05635c0ab5315e502?amp&nk=ba6bdd560dfffb342f0c99c7845a2f4b-1713345513

"The AFL spoke to all clubs on Tuesday as part of plans to overhaul the draft system including the academy and father-son selections.

Clubs want the changes to be introduced next year as they have already planned for this year’s draft.

The Lions would be one of the most affected if the changes are introduced this year, making clubs pay more to draft academy and father-son players."

Good news for us, will help us get more value when bundling up picks

 

[Karp3_dm]

How do suns have so many picks again?

 

[Ctl]

How do suns have so many picks again?

they traded their first last year for points and picks this year

 

[Karp3_dm]

they traded their first last year for points and picks this year

Yeah and 3/4 of their academy picks were first rounders
Insane

 

[YeOldTiger]

Draft Power Rankings: Mids, father-sons dominate the list

The 2024 draft crop is already looking stacked with midfielders, while a number of father-son prospects also feature in the top 20. Plus yet another Suns Academy product in the top 10, writes Jasper Chellappah.

www.espn.com.au

 

[GoTigers2015]