Rumour Trades in Thread

[Topkent]

I noticed people floated the ideas of both bellchambers and mitch clark being traded in seperate threads

i noticed lindsay gilbee had been dropped by the doggies again , he is a beautiful kick out of the back 6 exactly what we need, maybe with the dogs needing to regenerate a little he is someone we could go after

 

[Tulip]

Wouldn't mind a go at Gilbee.

Renouf, however, is a direction I hope the club investigates

 

[ThePuppetMaster]

If we were shaping up for a flag tilt next year, I would agree with you.

As it is, and we are not, he would just be taking a spot from one of our talented young kickers, maybe even a Tapscott when he returns from injury.

Plus Gilbee would want to go to a club that could give him a shot at a premiership, it's a lose - lose for all parties IMO.

 

[Demon 86]

If we were shaping up for a flag tilt next year, I would agree with you.

As it is, and we are not, he would just be taking a spot from one of our talented young kickers, maybe even a Tapscott when he returns from injury.

Plus Gilbee would want to go to a club that could give him a shot at a premiership, it's a lose - lose for all parties IMO.

Agreed.

 

[Mightydees]

Wouldn't mind a go at Gilbee.

Renouf, however, is a direction I hope the club investigates

If Warnock is not going to be given a chance to improve then shouldn't we be looking at another tall defender?

 

[THE STING2]

We should have a no soft ***** policy, so no Gilbee and Renouf wouldn't give us anymore than Martin would. I would only consider a small forward or key forward when trading, I'd rather look at the draft for any other weakness.

 

[THE STING2]

If Warnock is not going to be given a chance to improve then shouldn't we be looking at another tall defender?

No way! Are you trying to bait me? Rivers, Frawley, Garland, McDonald, Davis are more than enough. Morton, Martin, MacDonald, Dunn and Howe can also play there. The last thing we need is another key backman when we have so many other problems like small forwards, key forwards, midfielders and running half backs.

 

[master bate]

3 positions

1. Run and skill off half back/wing
Frawley and Davey are the only players who really takes a chance and get things moving. Tapscott has been a revelation, Grimes is handy, Strauss and Blease are the hopes. We need more, and players who can do it forward of centre. Couple of players got traded in this position last year (Sherman and Tambling), don't want them but someone else might be worth a shot. Draft may be the best go as these types can impact early (generally speaking). Gilbee is past it. Ben Sinclair is a second year Collingwood player with a few injuries who is more of a small forward, but he's quick, has tidy skills and is disciplined. Justin Bollenhagen who plays for Freo is a young South Australian who has also had a few injuries but is a quick and skillful left footer.

2. Tall forward
Not much out there, but worth a look. Possibly offer young cat Mitch Brown an offer he can't refuse. He's still stuck behind Hawkins and Pods even with Mooney retiring at the end of the year. Wouldn't touch Fev and I'd be very careful with Mitch Clark. Taylor Walker? Lewis Johnston from Sydney just got dropped after 1 game. Aaron Cornelius from Brisbane.

3. Back up ruck, preferably forward type.
Let's see how Gawn goes. But at the moment our ruck department is Jamar....Martin and then hopes of Gawn and Fitzy. Spencer I've given up on, same with Newton (yes I thought he might be ok in a back up ruck/forward role). I wouldn't be too keen on Bellchambers or Renouf, especially if Gawn steps it up, both wouldn't be cheap. Another hiding down at Geelong is beanpole Dawson Simpson, but I think Geelong are still keen on his combination with Vardy. Jordan Roughead is a player from the dogs who I rate, gets injured a bit and they probably rate him very highly, but he looks capable of both playing in the ruck and forward. Throw the kitchen sink at Shaun McKernan?

 

[Tempy Tiger]

As Sting has mentioned we need a small forward with pace. My kingdom for Cyril Rioli... Is this a role Lawrence could fill? It doesn't seem like we have much on the list re quick small forwards. Aussie is too slow, same goes for Maric, Green, Petterd. Bennell is it as far as I can see, and Col I guess.

 

[Gazza_11]

How do we have a key forwards problem? Watts is intended to be our superstar. Cook could be anything, Howe, Jurrah, Morton all other options. Same with small forwards, we have plenty. Unless we're trading for an experienced one, we don't need either of those.

What we do need is a small defender who can run off the flank and has a good kick. Also tagging abilities, maybe. And a bit more outside pace, and clearance players who will put their head over the ball.

 

[THE STING2]

How do we have a key forwards problem? Watts is intended to be our superstar. Cook could be anything, Howe, Jurrah, Morton all other options. Same with small forwards, we have plenty. Unless we're trading for an experienced one, we don't need either of those.

I don't agree. I would have Jurrah as the third tall, Watts has to be the 2nd or 1st. I definately don't trust Morton, I don't trust Cook (he hasn't done a lot at VFL level) and I haven't seen enough of Howe. Until we can trust either Cook or Howe I think we need to be looking at a tall forward.

I don't understand your reasoning on our small forwards. None of them are any good. Can't trust Maric, Jetta is too slow, Wonaeamirri doesn't have the commitment and Bennell hasn't stood up. We desperately have to find a small forward.

 

[Jordie_tackles]

I disagree on both the Cook and Spencer calls,

Both young Cook very young, Cook has presented well for Casey, got more of it before Fev came back in, delivers it beautifully into the forward line from CHF, and is a great kick

Spencer is now a BIG man, and i thought he was rucking really well and moving around the ground, so much so that Gawn was playing Casey 2's prior to Jamar and Spence going down, granted he still has a bit to work on but writing him off... all ruckmen generally take time to mature

 

[rhaz]

Taylor Walker? Lewis Johnston, Shaun McKernan?

TW - bit of a ******** and seems to only show up every couple of weeks. Already got that in Petterd (however he is not a ********).

Johnston - athlete, not a footballer. already got enough developing players on our list (Cook, Fitz, Watts etc)

McKernan - yes, definitely... however the crows will throw the kitchen sink to keep him there.

 

[Demon 16]

Targets are easy to name. How we would get them is much harder.

We will have a first round draft pick and Cale Morton as the best currency we would be prepared to part with I would have thought.

What would that get us? Not what we'd hope for I reckon.

 

[THE STING2]

Trade Sylvia for McKernan, Vince and their first draft pick.

 

[00Stinger]

Trade Sylvia for McKernan, Vince and their first draft pick.

Are you serious??? This is not a computer game little dude.

(a) Sylvia is our top player, we won't trade him
(b) Adelaide won't give up a good young KPP, the 1st pick (probably about 7) and Vince a quality player (All be it not playing well at the moment).

The problem with these threads are kids like you start rambling on about rubbish that will never happen, nor should it.

 

[THE STING2]

Are you serious??? This is not a computer game little dude.

(a) Sylvia is our top player, we won't trade him
(b) Adelaide won't give up a good young KPP, the 1st pick (probably about 7) and Vince a quality player (All be it not playing well at the moment).

The problem with these threads are kids like you start rambling on about rubbish that will never happen, nor should it.

Your dreaming if you think he is our top player, he hasn't even had an outstanding game all year.

Tonight is his chance to put all the doubts to rest and have a blinder tonight. I'm not the only one doubting him, his very own coaching staff are (just read the AFL reviews) as has Roos.

On form there are only 2 must keeps and that's Moloney and Jamar.

Another average game tonight and he will again be in the Johnstone category of wasted talents.

McKernan hasn't done anything to suggest he isn't worth more then a late first rnd pick and Vince with the form he is in isn't worth anymore than a 2nd rnd pick. Adding a 1st rnd pick with those 2 is probably going a bit too far, maybe a swap of picks would be more suitable.

If Morton is our greatest bargaining tool then we aren't going to do much at the trade table, he's another Farren Ray. We won't get anymore than a second round draft pick for him. Straight swap for Vince, I'd definately take that.

I was about the first to put Johnstone up for trade and got a similar response to the 1 you have given, just remember that I have a long memory.

 

[00Stinger]

Your dreaming if you think he is our top player, he hasn't even had an outstanding game all year.

Tonight is his chance to put all the doubts to rest and have a blinder tonight. I'm not the only one doubting him, his very own coaching staff are (just read the AFL reviews) as has Roos.

On form there are only 2 must keeps and that's Moloney and Jamar.

Another average game tonight and he will again be in the Johnstone category of wasted talents.

McKernan hasn't done anything to suggest he isn't worth more then a late first rnd pick and Vince with the form he is in isn't worth anymore than a 2nd rnd pick. Adding a 1st rnd pick with those 2 is probably going a bit too far, maybe a swap of picks would be more suitable.

If Morton is our greatest bargaining tool then we aren't going to do much at the trade table, he's another Farren Ray. We won't get anymore than a second round draft pick for him. Straight swap for Vince, I'd definately take that.

I was about the first to put Johnstone up for trade and got a similar response to the 1 you have given, just remember that I have a long memory.

So if he isn't a great player why would Adelaide give up McKernan, Vince and their 1st round pick for him? Your contradicting yourself there.

Also the only untouchables are Jamar and Moloney......so Frawley is tradable in your opinion??? So is Scully, Jurrah, Trengove ext?

 

[THE STING2]

So if he isn't a great player why would Adelaide give up McKernan, Vince and their 1st round pick for him? Your contradicting yourself there.

Also the only untouchables are Jamar and Moloney......so Frawley is tradable in your opinion??? So is Scully, Jurrah, Trengove ext?

He's better than them that's why I wouldn't straight swap him for any of those options. Can't see how I'm contradicting myself. Who trades great players unless they want out? No one, he isn't a great player cos he has never lived up to his potential.

Scully, Trengove and Jurrah would be must keeps based on potential.

I have to admit that I forgot about Frawley, he hasn't had a good year this year but is a must keep due to last year's AA form.

 

[blured]

Your dreaming if you think he is our top player, he hasn't even had an outstanding game all year.

Tonight is his chance to put all the doubts to rest and have a blinder tonight. I'm not the only one doubting him, his very own coaching staff are (just read the AFL reviews) as has Roos.

On form there are only 2 must keeps and that's Moloney and Jamar.

Another average game tonight and he will again be in the Johnstone category of wasted talents.

McKernan hasn't done anything to suggest he isn't worth more then a late first rnd pick and Vince with the form he is in isn't worth anymore than a 2nd rnd pick. Adding a 1st rnd pick with those 2 is probably going a bit too far, maybe a swap of picks would be more suitable.

If Morton is our greatest bargaining tool then we aren't going to do much at the trade table, he's another Farren Ray. We won't get anymore than a second round draft pick for him. Straight swap for Vince, I'd definately take that.

I was about the first to put Johnstone up for trade and got a similar response to the 1 you have given, just remember that I have a long memory.

Colin sylvia is going very nicely he is averaging 23 disposals per game, 6 tackles per game, 6 inside 50's per game....

and you want him traded for mckernan who has just been dropped i might add

 

[Surkin]

THESTING2 haha that was a good laugh.

Saw a thread on the Essendon board about the 10 players they must keep. Who do we think the 10 would be for the Dees.

Mine are:
1. James Frawley
2. Tom Scully
3. Jack Trengove
4. Jack Watts
5. Mark Jamar
6. Colin Garland
7. Jack Grimes
8. Colin Sylvia
9. Brent Moloney
10. Nathan Jones - Controversial I know but he is only 23 and is a strong body who runs hard and is a good leader down at the club.

 

[00Stinger]

THESTING2 haha that was a good laugh.

Saw a thread on the Essendon board about the 10 players they must keep. Who do we think the 10 would be for the Dees.

Mine are:
1. James Frawley
2. Tom Scully
3. Jack Trengove
4. Jack Watts
5. Mark Jamar
6. Colin Garland
7. Jack Grimes
8. Colin Sylvia
9. Brent Moloney
10. Nathan Jones - Controversial I know but he is only 23 and is a strong body who runs hard and is a good leader down at the club.

Sounds pretty accurate to me

 

[THE STING2]

Colin sylvia is going very nicely he is averaging 23 disposals per game, 6 tackles per game, 6 inside 50's per game....

and you want him traded for mckernan who has just been dropped i might add

a first rnd draft pick and Vince as well. Stats are nothing, his influence on a game has been minimal compared to last year.

He needs to lift and it has to start tonight. A similar performance to his game against Essendon last year is desperately needed.

 

[jack the ripper]

Sounds pretty accurate to me

I would have Jurrah before jones any day of the week.

 

[THE STING2]

THESTING2 haha that was a good laugh.

10. Nathan Jones - Controversial I know but he is only 23 and is a strong body who runs hard and is a good leader down at the club.

Now that is a good laugh.

Jones more important than Jurrah? Now I've heard it all. Can't wait to see the classic match up of Stanton V Jones.

Moloney has been BOG in every one of our wins. How is he not in the first couple?

1. Jamar
2. Moloney
3. Scully
4. Trengove
5. Frawley
6. Jurrah
7. McKenzie
8. Sylvia
9. Grimes
10. Watts