Transfer discussion thread.

[Cooldude]

Liverpool still want him?

I hooope so... should''ve bought him instead of Markovic anyway, sigh

 

[Magma]

Where's Shaqiri gonna go?

juve most likely

 

[Jatz]

I hooope so... should''ve bought him instead of Markovic anyway, sigh

Is Rodgers getting a decent budget this time around? Surely he'd be trying to strengthen your attacking threat.

 

[typeclub]

Rodgers needs to be given more money to spend.

 

[Cooldude]

Is Rodgers getting a decent budget this time around? Surely he'd be trying to strengthen your attacking threat.

I wouldn't trust Rodgers with my lunch money, let alone millions

No idea if FSG thinks the same way

His big money signings have been like, Borini, Allen, Lallana, Lovren. He loves buying midtable players for loads of money

The thing is when you bring in players from midtable English clubs you magically become midtable

 

[FAITH]

Rodgers needs to be given more money to spend.

no similarly to lvg they dont know how to use it

 

[Jatz]

I wouldn't trust Rodgers with my lunch money, let alone millions

No idea if FSG thinks the same way

His big money signings have been like, Borini, Allen, Lallana, Lovren. He loves buying midtable players for loads of money

The thing is when you bring in players from midtable English clubs you magically become midtable

Think Lallana was a good purchase. The others were rubbish.

 

[Cooldude]

Lallana's pretty good but not worth 25 million, plus for 25 mil you'd hope he'd be starting more but Rodgers seem to use him quite sparingly. Been good most times he's played

 

[Bojan KantKick]

Is Rodgers getting a decent budget this time around? Surely he'd be trying to strengthen your attacking threat.

They are spending 100m on Anfield after spending more than that on transfers. Will be interesting to see how much fsg give Rodgers

 

[Jatz]

Lallana's pretty good but not worth 25 million, plus for 25 mil you'd hope he'd be starting more but Rodgers seem to use him quite sparingly. Been good most times he's played

25 mil is steep but he is English. The money was certainly wasted elsewhere.

 

[Bojan KantKick]

no similarly to lvg they dont know how to use it

U still havent answered my question faith?

 

[Cooldude]

They are spending 100m on Anfield after spending more than that on transfers. Will be interesting to see how much fsg give Rodgers

Stadium building/redevelopment expenses don't count in FFP, right? Would be disappointing if that becomes the reason why FSG gives no transfer kitty

Many other valid reasons not to give though

 

[Bojan KantKick]

Stadium building/redevelopment expenses don't count in FFP, right? Would be disappointing if that becomes the reason why FSG gives no transfer kitty

Many other valid reasons not to give though

I think it actually offsets FFP spend which is a positive as you can spend more. It was an interest free loan from fsg so that helps too. I guess we'll be able to see what fsg think of Rodgers by how much they give him.

 

[Cooldude]

Last time Kenny wasted the cash they gave him nothing for Jan...

So Rodgers would have to have a good December for him to get anything

 

[Zidane98]

I think it actually offsets FFP spend which is a positive as you can spend more. It was an interest free loan from fsg so that helps too. I guess we'll be able to see what fsg think of Rodgers by how much they give him.

Depends on who he sells. Napoli want Balotelli. Sunderland would still probably want Borini but not at the 14m they were prepared to pay in summer. I do rate Allen as a player but I'd be prepared to sell him if we could get a top class DM in to replace him. Would be happy to take a hit on Lovren if an offer comes in.

 

[Magma]

any sort of stadium development/youth stuff has absolutely no impact on ffp.

 

[Zidane98]

If you check out Weaintgotnohistory theres his quotes from an interview he did (its in Czech) during the international break.

edit: http://weaintgotnohistory.sbnation.com/2014/11/13/7213479/no-january-move-for-petr-cech

Pretty sure the rules we been relaxed in terms of getting a medal too.

Fair enough. Torres also said he wasn't moving anywhere at the start of January in 2011. I just can't imagine that a goalkeeper of Cech's quality would be happy sitting on the bench playing as a reserve keeper at this stage of his career. I also can't imagine Abramovich would be too happy with him sitting there earning big wages and doing nothing. All I can hope is that FSG does everything possible (within reason) in its power to sign him because a goalkeeper of his experience and quality not being utilised is a very rare commodity. If it doesn't happen I'm sure we'll have other targets in mind.

 

[Cooldude]

The scary thing with Rodgers is apparently if he had his way he would've brought Vorm and Williams in, maybe the committee isn't such a bad thing

 

[Zidane98]

Both the Mirror & Telegraph are saying that LVG has been given £150m to spend over the next 2 windows. It would be closer to 110m if United exercise their option on Falcao. Should be enough to get another DM, a full back and a centre half. If we don't sign a Falcao then that frees up 42m for a striker. Mark Ogden from the Telegraph is well connected at OT, he broke the SAF retirement story 1st. Woodward is a bit of an egomaniac and he wants to setup a Real Madrid style Gaalacticos. I'm fine with this as long as United continue to promote from the youth academy.

What's the deal on Falcao? My United fan mate reckons it will be a permanent deal unless Falcao injures his knee again. I'd imagine Woodward will be wanting to get out of any permanent deal for Falcao, you've pretty much paid 8m to get him fit again.

 

[Zidane98]

The scary thing with Rodgers is apparently if he had his way he would've brought Vorm and Williams in, maybe the committee isn't such a bad thing

Never a fan of managers signing favourites from old clubs. Allen has been good without being fantastic but in general it doesn't work.

 

[Bojan KantKick]

United having all this money a


What's the deal on Falcao? My United fan mate reckons it will be a permanent deal unless Falcao injures his knee again. I'd imagine Woodward will be wanting to get out of any permanent deal for Falcao, you've pretty much paid 8m to get him fit again.

Rumours are that its a done deal and that the 'loan' is just a way around ffp. If he gets 100% fit and has a good 2nd half of the year, they'll sign him. Yes, I've heard he has a clause in the loan agreement that if he does his knee again, then he stays with Monaco. It was a risk worth taking imo. World class strikers are hard to get.

 

[Cooldude]

Never a fan of managers signing favourites from old clubs. Allen has been good without being fantastic but in general it doesn't work.

Well Rafa bought Mista from Tenerife with him to Valencia and he scored 19 goals and won the league, so it could work

Mourinho did it with his Porto crew and with Carvalho for loads of clubs and that worked really well as well

So it all depends on the player, if the players are good enough they'd make it.

I guess the problem is buying from midtable English clubs is that you're hoping their level would elevate at a better club, but often that's not the case, coz if they had that extra gear in them, their old club wouldn't have been midtable in the first place

 

[Bojan KantKick]

Well Rafa bought Mista from Tenerife with him to Valencia and he scored 19 goals and won the league, so it could work

Mourinho did it with his Porto crew and with Carvalho for loads of clubs and that worked really well as well

So it all depends on the player, if the players are good enough they'd make it.

I guess the problem is buying from midtable English clubs is that you're hoping their level would elevate at a better club, but often that's not the case, coz if they had that extra gear in them, their old club wouldn't have been midtable in the first place

Charlie Adam is a good example of that. Too good for Blackpool, not good enough for Liverpool.

 

[chef]

Fair enough. Torres also said he wasn't moving anywhere at the start of January in 2011. I just can't imagine that a goalkeeper of Cech's quality would be happy sitting on the bench playing as a reserve keeper at this stage of his career. I also can't imagine Abramovich would be too happy with him sitting there earning big wages and doing nothing. All I can hope is that FSG does everything possible (within reason) in its power to sign him because a goalkeeper of his experience and quality not being utilised is a very rare commodity. If it doesn't happen I'm sure we'll have other targets in mind.

All parties are happy enough to keep soldiering on with one goal in mind at this stage.

 

[Cooldude]

Charlie Adam is a good example of that. Too good for Blackpool, not good enough for Liverpool.

Stewart Downing is the greatest example, loves being the big fish in smaller ponds, rabbit in headlights in the bigger occasion