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I don’t fully blame the umpires, the right type of training needs to be there. The rules need to changed to make it easier for them. If it was easier the pressure on them wouldn’t be as great and on a whole they would be happier doing what they’re doing. Got to make it sweet for them to attract good people to the job. Complete overhaul is due.
 
reckon gill secretely hates benny cos he knows hes gonna take his job off him so he instructs the umps to ream us
It's the other way around...Gil can't leave the AFL to spend his ill gotten gain$ until he finds a suitable replacement!
BG just keeps saying NO!!!
 

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We have the indigenous academy, the houli academy and whatever else

is it time to bring in a Richmond umpiring academy so that we can have our own umpires in the AFL seeing that they are shafting us every week


would be a good way to secure the futures of young kids from all sorts of different backgrounds
 
Ray makes it all about himself, I can't stand him. The way he spoke to Grigg a few years ago, saying that Grigg didn't have to speak the way he did, was such a joke.

The umpires job is to officiate the game. That's all. Ray wants TV time.
 
Ray makes it all about himself, I can't stand him. The way he spoke to Grigg a few years ago, saying that Grigg didn't have to speak the way he did, was such a joke.

The umpires job is to officiate the game. That's all. Ray wants TV time.

That was so condescending. Ray should become a primary school teacher if that’s how he wants to talk.
 
The umpiring in the first half was a disgrace...
Then I must admit, we got 3-5 calls our way at the start of the 3rd which even had my 9yr old ask if they changed tot he good umpires at half time.

The inconsistency is what pisses everyone off.
 
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The umpiring in the first half was a disgrace...
Then I must admit, we got 3-5 calls our way at the start of the 3rd which even had my 9yr old ask if they changed tot he good umpires at half time.

The inconsistency is what pisses everyone off.
they definetly pay even upers with such a lopsided count at the start of a game. anyone who watches games and focusses on the umps performance can see this.
 
What's the bet that the umpires for our Dreamtime game will be Curtis DeBoy, Robert O'Gorman and Ray Chamberlain. Though I have to admit that I don't mind Ray.
Wont happen. Corrupt as they are, the AFL cannot afford another showcase game to be stuffed up by incompetent cheating umpiring.

Hahaha what am i saying. Yeah we are going to get reamed again by these maggots.

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Colonwood lead the frees for differential by 46

Blues lead the frees against differential by 30....Tigers are 3rd on this list with 18

Just sayin........
 

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You can just about bet that #10 from last week will be umpiring our game on Saturday night.

O'Gorman's the name.

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And as long as the umpires continue to push to be central to the game by giving them numbers, having collectors cards of them, having them as special guests etc etc etc (and the umpires are happy to be part of the charade), they deserved to be booed the **** out of when they get it so wrong.

They are the ones putting themselves out there and promoting their public image. But they have to take the good with the bad.

Nobody 'has' to like them. Nobody is obligated to like them. And im not breaking a law by booing their decisions.
 
I think the problem is that the Umps aren't allowed a say. Would the Daisy Thomas issue been a big deal if the umpire replied "don't have a go at me because you are shit?" I don't think so. It would also humanise umpires somewhat.

Oh, and on Ray Chamberlain, I don't mind him. His decision making not be great but he's the same for both teams and you can't ask for more than that. Was clearly the best umpire last time we had him.
 
I think the problem is that the Umps aren't allowed a say. Would the Daisy Thomas issue been a big deal if the umpire replied "don't have a go at me because you are ****?" I don't think so. It would also humanise umpires somewhat.

Oh, and on Ray Chamberlain, I don't mind him. His decision making not be great but he's the same for both teams and you can't ask for more than that. Was clearly the best umpire last time we had him.
ray reamed us against the pies in rd 2
 
I think the problem is that the Umps aren't allowed a say. Would the Daisy Thomas issue been a big deal if the umpire replied "don't have a go at me because you are ****?" I don't think so. It would also humanise umpires somewhat.

Oh, and on Ray Chamberlain, I don't mind him. His decision making not be great but he's the same for both teams and you can't ask for more than that. Was clearly the best umpire last time we had him.

If the ump didn't want to make a big deal out of the Thomas incident, he just wouldn't have reported it...
And being a boundary umpire, he's not mic'd up either, so he could have said whatever he wanted to Thomas in reply, and it all would have stayed out on the field.

The problem is now the umps want to be treated special.... a look of "look at me time", special guest appearances on tv and radio programs...
9/10 free kicks they come racing in for no reason, trying to explain their decisions even when players don't ask...
 

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If the ump didn't want to make a big deal out of the Thomas incident, he just wouldn't have reported it...
And being a boundary umpire, he's not mic'd up either, so he could have said whatever he wanted to Thomas in reply, and it all would have stayed out on the field.

The problem is now the umps want to be treated special.... a look of "look at me time", special guest appearances on tv and radio programs...
9/10 free kicks they come racing in for no reason, trying to explain their decisions even when players don't ask...
The game is sheet...the players realize it...just playing for the money now as professionals...free kicks are just the hazard of the game now like sand bunkers in golf...avoid them if possible!
Eventually given enough time and exposure the white maggott AFL Lickspittles will turn this competition into an organization capable of challenging the old World of Sport wrestling for fakeness!
 
Umpiring is an interesting dilemma. There was a time when umpires were required to make more discernible judgements, interpret the rule and the action. With practice you do it in split second. They were bloody good back in the one umpire day really - sure they missed a bit off the ball, but their ability to interpret the rules in the spirit of the game was superior. Well I think so, having played the game across about 30 years.

It seems, to me at least, there has been a march towards trying to make everything black and white. No interpretations required thank you! Perhaps a computer programme with a few cameras in the ceiling of Marvel Stadium might produce consistently accurate outcomes. Either it is or it isn't right?! I beg to differ.

The newer rules such as protected zones, whilst well intentioned, don't lend themselves to black and white thinking. In the world of robots, which we are moving towards at a rapid rate now, anyone in the zone gets a free paid against (unless closely following an opponent). But most reasonable adults are capable of discerning that an opposing player who has errantly entering the protected zone and has no impact on the player with the ball is not requiring any call at all for the good of the game. Surely we don't want or need games decided by anything that doesn't directly involve a football (ie wandering through a protected zone). Umpires are also more than capable of discerning if certain players are repeat offenders at 'wandering' as a ploy, that's when the ability to interpret an interaction to within the spirit of the game is more than possible, it should be a requirement.

The deliberate out of bounds rule seems to have moved towards umpires making a determination, interpreting the rule in the spirit of the game. It's not perfect, but I can see a day when it will be basketball-like and last touch -that will be the determination factor (black and white), because as a homogenous group, we the fans, we are never happy. At least making it 'black and white' stops one side of the argument. But we are the lesser for that I think in this game.
 
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Umpiring is an interesting dilemma. There was a time when umpires were required to make more discernible judgements, interpret the rule and the action. With practice you do it in split second. They were bloody good back in the one umpire day really - sure they missed a bit off the ball, but their ability to interpret the rules in the spirit of the game was superior. Well I think so, having played the game across about 30 years.

It seems, to me at least, there has been a march towards trying to make everything black and white. No interpretations required thank you! Perhaps a computer programme with a few cameras in the ceiling of Marvel Stadium might produce consistently accurate outcomes. Either it is or it isn't right?! I beg to differ.

The newer rules such as protected zones, whilst well intentioned, don't lend themselves to black and white thinking. In the world of robots, which we are moving towards at a rapid rate now, anyone in the zone gets a free paid against (unless closely following an opponent). But most reasonable adults are capable of discerning that an opposing player who has errantly entering the protected zone and has no impact on the player with the ball is not requiring any call at all for the good of the game. Surely we don't want or need games decided by anything that doesn't directly involve a football (ie wandering through a protected zone). Umpires are also more than capable of discerning if certain players are repeat offenders at 'wandering' as a ploy, that's when the ability to interpret an interaction to within the spirit of the game is more than possible, it should be a requirement.

The deliberate out of bounds rule seems to have moved towards umpires making a determination, interpreting the rule in the spirit of the game. It's not perfect, but I can see a day when it will be basketball-like and last touch -that will be the determination factor (black and white), because as a homogenous group, we the fans, we are never happy. At least making it 'black and white' stops one side of the argument. But we are the lesser for that I think in this game.


Strongly agree with the first bit.

I was an umpire around the time 2 umpires started to come in.

The need to have both umpires officiating the same way took the discretion and ability to respond to the game away.

The general philosophy with one ump was to let things go and only call the blatant frees, but if the game started turning nasty/rough, then you'd tighten up, call more, and calm the game down that way. With 2 umps, you couldn't really dial it up/down like that because you were unlikely to be able to sync it well enough, so you needed to start umpiring with no regard for the mood of the game, and with a lot less discretion. The earlier 'adjusting as you went' was all OK so long as you treated both teams the same and players could understand why the change happened if you changed how you called things significantly (e.g. If a brawl broke out, they knew they'd be hearing the whistle a lot more afterwards).

What this tended to mean was that the umps who understood the game gradually got phased out (it was less fun to umpire like that) and were replaced by athletes who as often as not got into umpiring as (low) paid winter training for running, but because they didn't really need to know the game, just the rule interpretations, and they could often get into better position, they tended to be the ones who rose through the ranks.

For the record (so nobody thinks there were sour grapes there), while I didn't fully fit in either camp, I was probably closer to being one of those athletes I mentioned, I just started early enough to have a couple of seasons of one ump games and knew and admired how the 'old school' umps handled things. I got sounded out by the (then) VFL to join them, but couldn't really handle the extra time commitment at the time (they provided umps for lots of country football), and by the time I could, a series of injuries (more niggling/annoying than serious) had convinced me it wasn't really worth it.
 
I actually thought the other two umpires were OK. With O'Gorman, the Club needs to put a video package together and discuss it with the Umpires Department and Hocking. I don't believe in a systemic conspiratory against Richmond either by the League or the umpires but when issues like yesterday's arise they need to be addressed directly. If it can be shown that O'Gorman has a bias against Richmond, or any other Club for that matter, he needs to be moved on as it compromises the integrity of the entire umpiring community.

#lolintegrity
 
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they definetly pay even upers with such a lopsided count at the start of a game. anyone who watches games and focusses on the umps performance can see this.

Of the 12 paid to hawks in the first half 10 were by that campaigner, what were the others do8ng? Or is he a super umpire, but what do we expec5 when the controlling body has a majority stake in a betting company
 

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