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Michael Bevan had a calmness not normally seen in top level players. Basically did what dhoni did about a decade before he did it
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People think of him as a bit of a goof, but James Brayshaw was actually a really good First Class cricketer.
Batting average of 43.72 (9 hundreds, 28 fifties) in 67 Shield matches, playing his last season (1996/97) before his 30th birthday, then pursuing radio full-time (was on breakfast radio in SA back in the mid-'90s).
Quality record during a strong era, and could have played another 5 years if a media career didn't beckon.
Batting average of 43.72 (9 hundreds, 28 fifties) in 67 Shield matches, playing his last season (1996/97) before his 30th birthday, then pursuing radio full-time (was on breakfast radio in SA back in the mid-'90s).
Quality record during a strong era, and could have played another 5 years if a media career didn't beckon.
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Kemar Roach. Very good bowler.
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Ashes 2010/11 and that Sri Lanka tour also come to mind re: standing out when the going was tough.
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After spending around 18 months out of the Windies Test side, he has a ridiculously good record over his last 15 Tests he's played since - 21.36 average, 42.04 strike rate, 3.05 economy rate, with 27.58% of his overs bowled being maidens.
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Adding to my previous post, over the past 18 months (August 2017-present), the pace trio of Roach, Shannon Gabriel, and Jason Holder has been arguably the best in Test cricket (each with strike rates of 45 or lower, and at least 3 5-fers to their name in that time), with Roston Chase being a fine spinning foil (who has a two Test 5-fers to his name, along with four Test centuries).
Given that Roach and Gabriel are only 30, and Holder and Chase are just 26-27, it really should be "set and forget" for that quartet in the Windies line-up over the next few years.
Given that Roach and Gabriel are only 30, and Holder and Chase are just 26-27, it really should be "set and forget" for that quartet in the Windies line-up over the next few years.
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Chris Rogers and Simon Katitch. It's been 5 4 years and we still haven't found the right partner to Warner.
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I don't even think they necessarily need Joseph at the moment. Just play the other three pacemen and Chase.
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Chase is capable and serviceable - much like Warrican and others. But nothing more. If one of the three main quicks broke down it would leave their attack in a big hole. Make no mistake, Joseph is a talent. And moreover he compliments the other three - all four of them bring something reasonably unique.
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Don't let Chase's overall Test bowling record fool you. He was underbowled early when he first debuted, as he was playing as a batsman who bowled part-time, but he is a genuine all-rounder now. Over the last 18 months - 13.1 overs per innings, 36.45 average, 60.06 strike rate, 3.63 economy rate. That's passable for your fourth bowler/spinner these days, if the other three are firing. He'd probably bowl more overs if he needed to, but the other bowlers (and he, on occasion) bowl the opposition out too quickly.
Also, how often do frontline bowlers break down in-game, outside of a freak occurence? Ryan Harris, James Pattinson, and Vernon Philander seem to be the main ones to have done it repeatedly in recent years. This "maybe" need for a 5th bowler is what has seen Mitch Marsh play 31 Tests.
I guess you can play four pace bowlers + Chase, but most of the time it's probably not going to be needed.
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It’s not his record that has me fooled.
It’s watching almost every test he’s played. He can play a roll and behind an attack that is regularly making early headway into opposition innings, he compliments things well. But if we were to play a strong opponent relying on him as a frontline option I’d be extremely concerned about taking 20 wickets.
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Matt Prior.
His career fizzled fairly spectacularly towards the end (462 runs in his last 26 Test innings, passing 50 just twice), but he got his batting average up to the mid-40s half way through his Test career, and he ended up genuinely among the better keeper/batsmen of all time (among a select few to have a 40+ Test batting average as a keeper).
His career fizzled fairly spectacularly towards the end (462 runs in his last 26 Test innings, passing 50 just twice), but he got his batting average up to the mid-40s half way through his Test career, and he ended up genuinely among the better keeper/batsmen of all time (among a select few to have a 40+ Test batting average as a keeper).
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Did he ever score runs against us? Never really rated him on that basis alone.
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On a similar note, Andy Flower.
Had a better Test batting average (53.70 average, 12 centuries, 23 fifties) as a keeper than Gilchrist (47.60 average, 17 centuries, 26 fifties), playing much less regularly (41 less Test matches overall) in a much poorer side.
Had a better Test batting average (53.70 average, 12 centuries, 23 fifties) as a keeper than Gilchrist (47.60 average, 17 centuries, 26 fifties), playing much less regularly (41 less Test matches overall) in a much poorer side.
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Versus Australia - 30 innings, 28.96 average (1 century, 4 fifties).
Didn't really set the world on fire against us, but held his own.
He had a pretty even spread of runs, scoring centuries against five different nations, and half centuries against 7 different nations, and didn't really minnow-bash, either (played just 4 of 79 Tests against Bangladesh, without tonning up).
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Yeah, but in the scheme of things, how much does that really matter (Zimbabwe won just 7 of the 65 Tests he played in, with four of those wins coming in 2001, towards the end of his career), and how much is it remembered outside of cricket nerds and tragics?
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Roger Harper; easy to be overlooked as a spinner for the Windies, and an alltime great fielder.
Murray Goodwin; overshadowed by Andy Flower who has the 'Zimbabwe's good batsman' position locked down.
Murray Goodwin; overshadowed by Andy Flower who has the 'Zimbabwe's good batsman' position locked down.
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Bob Massie.
Claim to fame was knocking over Sir Garfield Sobers off stump with an outswinger and an inswinger in successive innings as a kid playing for WA.
Debuted at 25, took 16/137 in his debut at Lords, destroyed England with swing, especially bowling outswings around the wicket accross the right handers. Tactic hadnt been done before and has barely been repeated since.
Injury wrecked him on his next testof the WI and he only played 5 FC matches after it for his career because of injury.
Took 31 wkts in 6 tests @ 20 and only played 52 FC matches.
Had the greatest ever match figures for an Australian after his debut (3rd best of all time) as well as the best ever figures for a debutant at the time.
Claim to fame was knocking over Sir Garfield Sobers off stump with an outswinger and an inswinger in successive innings as a kid playing for WA.
Debuted at 25, took 16/137 in his debut at Lords, destroyed England with swing, especially bowling outswings around the wicket accross the right handers. Tactic hadnt been done before and has barely been repeated since.
Injury wrecked him on his next testof the WI and he only played 5 FC matches after it for his career because of injury.
Took 31 wkts in 6 tests @ 20 and only played 52 FC matches.
Had the greatest ever match figures for an Australian after his debut (3rd best of all time) as well as the best ever figures for a debutant at the time.
Saqlain is a brilliant one. Definitely the best finger spinner I've seen.
I would throw in (as an all-rounder) Shaun Pollock. As good a bowler as any in his time yet averaged over 30 with the bat as well.
Mark Richardson was a pretty good opener for the Kiwis.
I would throw in (as an all-rounder) Shaun Pollock. As good a bowler as any in his time yet averaged over 30 with the bat as well.
Mark Richardson was a pretty good opener for the Kiwis.
