Up the Arse! Goons thread Part 8

[Cruyff14]

Look, the side has been doing pretty well but the amount of fixtures at this time of year coupled with our extensive injury list and it was inevitable that we would struggle and given the sending off, our blokes were on their knees - they are humans, not machines.

Wenger needs to make some really hard decisions and cut blokes who are injured more often than not and dispense with average players who would be valuable at other clubs.

Don't expect this to happen during the January transfer window because this is the time for desperadoes, clubs and individuals, to squeeze as much out of clubs as possible and making it the absolute wrong time to markedly change ones squad.

I'm going to cop it again but I cannot emphasise enough the importance of a competent and experienced keeper if we are dinkum about winning things.

Our lad should have been commanding and calming when it was needed most but he showed his inexperience and lack of concentration. Call it harsh but these are the types of games that your keeper must be on his mettle.

Yeah, there are too many games over this period and coming out with a perfect record is next to impossible unless you have a squad the size of City's or something. As you said, they are men and not machines and it should be expected that they are not going to make it through such a grinding mix of fixtures. And with our injury list, it hurts us even more.

Diaby, Almunia, Bendtner, Denilson, Squillaci are just munching up our wage bill, 200k a week between that lot, it's disgusting that the club keeps them and Wenger has far too much pride to admit his project has failed and simply will not ship them out.

 

[moomba]

Yeah, there are too many games over this period and coming out with a perfect record is next to impossible unless you have a squad the size of City's or something. As you said, they are men and not machines and it should be expected that they are not going to make it through such a grinding mix of fixtures. And with our injury list, it hurts us even more.

We've got good squad depth, but the same squad size as everyone else (I think we run at 21 or 22 on the premier league roster. And I don't think it's realistic even with our squad to get through the Christmas/New Year period unscathed (as we've seen).

Form table (last 6 games) of the top 6 clubs shows 9 losses in that time. 6 of the losses have come in the last two games, only Spurs haven't lost one of their last two.

 

[Latro]

Yeah, there are too many games over this period and coming out with a perfect record is next to impossible unless you have a squad the size of City's or something. As you said, they are men and not machines and it should be expected that they are not going to make it through such a grinding mix of fixtures. And with our injury list, it hurts us even more.

Diaby, Almunia, Bendtner, Denilson, Squillaci are just munching up our wage bill, 200k a week between that lot, it's disgusting that the club keeps them and Wenger has far too much pride to admit his project has failed and simply will not ship them out.

No none will take them on those wages. No player will take a wage cut on an esxisting contract.

 

[Darealrath]

Diaby, Almunia, Bendtner, Denilson, Squillaci are just munching up our wage bill, 200k a week between that lot, it's disgusting that the club keeps them and Wenger has far too much pride to admit his project has failed and simply will not ship them out.

You wouldn't loan out senior players like Bendtner and Denilson and exile Almunia (until he had no choice) if you weren't willing to get rid of them.

Too much anger at Arsene on this board. He's made mistakes but he's been incredible for this club.

 

[Cruyff14]

If nobody wants to take them, cut their losses and terminate their contracts.

 

[Darealrath]

If nobody wants to take them, cut their losses and terminate their contracts.

Not sure what that would achieve, seeing you'd still be paying them.

 

[moomba]

Bentner has a couple of court cases on the way (just announced he's facing charges over a pub brawl in September), you'd be able to cancel his contract I would imagine if he's found guilty.

But I suspect he's one you would be able to offload, maybe get a million or so in transfer fees.

 

[Cruyff14]

More than a million I'd imagine. 7.5 odd.

 

[moomba]

More than a million I'd imagine. 7.5 odd.

Not in England, he''s barely worth the cost of a loan spell at the moment.

Better hope the likes of PSG or Malaga are interested, if you want that much for him.

 

[glenferry23]

Chamakh would (amazingly) attract a couple of million to go back to France too. What a win that would be for arsenal, but again wenger concede

 

[Northalives]

Wenger's management of Arsenal, from a financial perspective, has meant that the Arsenal are, without doubt, the most viable football club in England. We are not propped up by petrodollars or poultry conglomerates and in Wenger's time, the Arsenal have built a state-of-the-art stadium that I believe is practically paid off.

With his prudent financial management, he has virtually guaranteed that Arsenal will remain the only club since the Second World War to have never been relegated from the top tier of English football.

Although we bemoan the fact that we have not procured established, big name players, we have done remarkably well under Wenger’s guidance.

It is time now however, with the stadium nearly paid off, to make a concerted effort to bring in players that will mean winning the league: not potential stars but players at the peak of their abilities.

 

[windyhill]

Not in England, he''s barely worth the cost of a loan spell at the moment.

Better hope the likes of PSG or Malaga are interested, if you want that much for him.

He`s going fairly well for Sunderland.

 

[Latro]

Yep 2 arrests in 6 months is a good strike rate.

Henry loan deal has gone through and he can play against Leeds.

 

[Cruyff14]

“I am expecting a quiet market. Europe is depressed and there is not a lot of money available, only some clubs who have exceptional resources.

“Let’s say that clubs who are not linked with the economic environment at the moment can buy!”

I don't even need to say who said it.

 

[Latro]

What quality players do you think will move besides players in bad situations like Tevez?

 

[Benno_900]

Van Persie to be rested. Dunno if he'll be on the bench or not. Since this is our only realistic chance at a trophy, I was hoping we'd go all out for it.

Here's one for discussion:
Top 4 place and no trophy
vs
5th/6th place and the FA Cup?

 

[AG]

Top 4 place and no trophy.

 

[Latro]

We shouyld be able to beat Leeds without RVP and the starting midfield. If not we are in serious trouble.

 

[Cruyff14]

Rather make the CL than win the FA Cup.

 

[Latro]

Arsenal are being linked with Matias Suarez from Anderlecht. Dont know amything about him besides being a winger.

 

[glenferry23]

Hopefully no relation to that scum biter/racist. Anyway yes I saw that runout on the net this morning

Agree too that I would rather 4th place and no trophy. Which would be a repeat of last year actually. We just cannot afford to not qualify for champions league. Would blow our financial model out of whack if we missed

But the FA Cup really is our only crack at a trophy. Have to be mindful of RvP's workload but there's been a 6 day break since the fulham game so perhaps he'll be on the bench at least

 

[GhostofJimJess]

Wenger's management of Arsenal, from a financial perspective, has meant that the Arsenal are, without doubt, the most viable football club in England. We are not propped up by petrodollars or poultry conglomerates and in Wenger's time, the Arsenal have built a state-of-the-art stadium that I believe is practically paid off.

With his prudent financial management, he has virtually guaranteed that Arsenal will remain the only club since the Second World War to have never been relegated from the top tier of English football.

Although we bemoan the fact that we have not procured established, big name players, we have done remarkably well under Wenger’s guidance.

It is time now however, with the stadium nearly paid off, to make a concerted effort to bring in players that will mean winning the league: not potential stars but players at the peak of their abilities.

Post of the year thus far.

 

[windyhill]

Yep 2 arrests in 6 months is a good strike rate.

Playing well for Sunderland.

 

[Darealrath]

Top 4 place and no trophy.

Post of the year thus far.

Concur on both.

 

[glenferry23]

henry to feature against leeds. and his number 12 guernsey is already for sale on arsenal.com

edit: 76 pounds delivered! no thanks, ill wait