Fair enough. I'd have it more on par with the FA Cup but can see why many don't rate it. If we'd beaten Gala way back in 2000, maybe we'd feel better about it.
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Fair enough. I'd have it more on par with the FA Cup but can see why many don't rate it. If we'd beaten Gala way back in 2000, maybe we'd feel better about it.
As a player you want to play against the best, you're not going to achieve that playing Europa league. While give me the hope of going on fairy tale like run (similar to that of 06 side) over Europa league.
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Europa League is at least on par with the FA cup. I'd also rather win the Europa League than exit the Round of 16 CL, its still a European Trophy and now offers direct CL qualification. Champions League Quarters or better and I'd take that though.
Yes I agree with your opening, you want to play against the best. But for Arsenal, it's a case of continually losing against the best.
2006 was the closest we've come, if not for Mad Jens I had every belief we would've won that game. Unfortunately, it's going to be a long time before we get a chance again. The Europa League, whilst a second tier tournament, is still a major European trophy.
I know many Arsenal fans were against us tumbling out at the group stage of the CL this year, but hell we'd be a very genuine chance of winning Europa if it fell that way. Anyway, always an interesting discussion.
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Yeah Reality is we have only made the last 4 twice in like 19 attempts in the Champions League under Wenger. Haven't even got past the Round of 16 since 2010.
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Playing out the season in the Europa League severely hampers a run at the title.
Which is why I don't fear Spurs this season.
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Chelsea are winning the Title thats all but decided, irrespective of Europa League Football or not.
No pesky europa league threatening to wreck their season.
True, but our issue is we need to close the talent gap between us and the best. You don't get those kinds of players by looking to win the Europa League. Personally, I'd like to win a European trophy, but let's be honest; Sevilla won it three years in a row, and nobody of note went looking to play for them.
We've found many ways to hamper a run at the title without the Europa league though.
A club with the depth and resources of Arsenal should be able to go deep into a tournament like that whilst still shoring up a top 4 spot in the league.
That's fair enough, but it's changed a bit in recent years. Not all players want to play for club that's in the CL. United and Chelsea still acquire world class players without it, obviously though their wage structure in much much higher than ours. Just saying, it's not only about the CL anymore, as it perhaps was 7-8 years ago.
The whole transfer market has significantly changed.
That's the point. We refuse to change our wage structure (tho maybe that is being forced to change now), so we need the CL as an attraction point.
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We have still failed to hold onto key players over the years despite constant CL qualification and the same thing is likely to happen with Sanchez and Ozil. We need to change our whole ambition as a club.
City. 2-0.
Arsenal 3 Burnley 0
No news on the Giroud injury as yet. At this point, he's out for anywhere from 4 days to 3 years.
Haven't lost when Mustafi has played. Bye bye Per.
Arsenal itk's on Twitter are saying Bellerin, Gibbs and even Coquelin will be in contention for Burnley. The early talk is that Giroud's injury isn't too bad either - he could make Burnley but might miss a week.
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Tough run home but I think we may do just enough to end up scraping 4th place.
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Get in!
So it's Southampton confirmed in the next round of the Cup. They've already knocked us out of one cup this season, but of a bogey team especially away.
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Will be a very difficult tie for us and will not surprise me one bit if we get tossed.
Wenger said Giroud is a chance for this weekend, has been training since yesterday. Well there you go.
There's still a chance though he's out until 2019 with Wenger's track record of injury updates.
There's still a chance though he's out until 2019 with Wenger's track record of injury updates.
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