Up the Arse! Goons Thread

[Judd2Sewell]

Really need Gyokores to start scoring. He's scored two flukey/lucky goals in months.

Madueke's goal was absolutely brilliant, a goal of the year contender. You can't not be really happy for him.

 

[glenferry23]

Looks exhausted for a few games now

Yes. The guy is a machine. Would’ve been great to have another defender available here so Norgaard could have taken minutes off Merino or Zubimendi in midfield.

We need to be careful though with Merino. Hopefully though with Jesus and Gyokeres now back in the frame, his minutes can be eased.

 

[glenferry23]

Speaking of Jesus, he offers something so different and unique. A very crafty player that wants to be involved, feel the ball, as opposed to Gyokeres who is largely reliant upon delivery. It’s a nice contrast and option to have.

Jesus looked very sharp and I saw a stat that he had more touches and shots than Gyokeres did. Given he can also play wide, he’s a hell of a player to now have back in the squad for what’s going to be an intense month or two.

We conceded 18 shots this morning which is such a long way from the Arsenal we now know, but very understandable with the amount of change and different players coming in and out (how many different back 4s is that now?).

Despite all of that, to still win 3-0 away in the champions league without Saka, Rice, Gabriel, Saliba, Timber, Calafiori and Trossard starting is remarkable really.

6 from 6 wins with only 1 goal conceded in the competition. Phenomenal.

Just hook this to my ****ing veins.

 

[andana]

Really need Gyokores to start scoring

Yes however because he is seen as a threat he often draws two defenders which can lead to goals for others

 

[Cruyff14]

Great win. Nice that we could rotate a few bodies, and we got through it without injuries.

Noni quickly becoming a fan favourite.

On Jesus, he is definitely a style of forward who suits our style of play to a tee. Just needs to stay on the pitch.

 

[BomToydd]

On Jesus, he is definitely a style of forward who suits our style of play to a tee. Just needs to stay on the pitch.

Loved his little cameo. Meanwhile Gyok having no impact against a club like Brugge is a worry

 

[glenferry23]

13 open play goals in the last 6 matches for Arsenal.

****ing hell we’re ruining football again.

 

[Crow-eater]

Thats 5 goals in a row champions league?

Yep.

 

[Gambit78]

Why are people worried about Gyokeres? The guy got injured in his best game for the club and is only now starting to get the minutes into his legs. It all feels a little contrived...

 

[BomToydd]

Why are people worried about Gyokeres? The guy got injured in his best game for the club and is only now starting to get the minutes into his legs. It all feels a little contrived...

Apart from that game he hasn't shown a lot. Doesn't get to the right spots, awful first touch and hold up play and can't stop falling over

 

[andana]

Seeing we play wolves next we could go with the same or similar starters. Win, win, win.
Players get a good rest, starting players get a game and we still win.

 

[Gambit78]

Apart from that game he hasn't shown a lot. Doesn't get to the right spots, awful first touch and hold up play and can't stop falling over

So there's been no positives to his play, especially pre-injury? No correlation between what Gyokeres has offered and the improved output of players like Martinelli and Trossard? How often has Gyokeres cleared the line from oppo corners? How much of an impact does his brute strength have on Big Gabi being such a threat at set pieces? Why are players like Martinelli, Trossard and Jesus allowed to ease back into the team, but Gyokeres needs to be banging in goals from the get go?

I suggest people go back and watch that 1st half against Burnley. The team and Gyokeres were clicking. It was immense and so unfortunate that he got injured at that point. The team has had to adapt to Merino being the centre forward. Completely different player. Now that Gyokeres is back, we need to adapt again.

Can Gyokeres get better? Yes. He improved game on game up until his injury. No pre-season and playing huge minutes. But the team need to get better as well. They need to get back to the levels we reached playing with Gyokeres against Burnley. Keeping in mind, too, Gyokeres has rarely played with Odegaard this season.

Sorry I find this narrative stupid.

 

[glenferry23]

There’s always a challenge integrating into a new club/new league, and returning from injury it can be difficult to gauge how they’re performing. He needs time clearly and reality is we may not know until his second season.

Look at the rapid improvement of Calafiori and Merino with 12 months of PL experience, under Arteta’s coaching, knowledge of Arsenal’s system etc etc.

If anything, all of this makes me admire Zubimendi even more. What he’s doing, the way he’s been able to adapt and perform like he’s a 10+ year Arsenal footballer, is incredible really.

 

[andana]

this makes me admire Zubimendi even more

Could anyone understand the song fans were singing about Zubi last game?

 

[bok_party]

There’s always a challenge integrating into a new club/new league, and returning from injury it can be difficult to gauge how they’re performing. He needs time clearly and reality is we may not know until his second season.

Look at the rapid improvement of Calafiori and Merino with 12 months of PL experience, under Arteta’s coaching, knowledge of Arsenal’s system etc etc.

If anything, all of this makes me admire Zubimendi even more. What he’s doing, the way he’s been able to adapt and perform like he’s a 10+ year Arsenal footballer, is incredible really.

I was most excited to watch him play and he hasn’t let me down. Amazing to watch.

 

[glenferry23]

Could anyone understand the song fans were singing about Zubi last game?

If it’s what I think you’re referring to, I believe it’s using the Wham song, Last Christmas? “This year, I’m giving to Zubimendi” or something like that.

 

[andana]

Well...

 

[BomToydd]

How often has Gyokeres cleared the line from oppo corners? How much of an impact does his brute strength have on Big Gabi being such a threat at set pieces?

He wasn't bought to clear the line from oppo corners and Gabi was a threat without Gyokeres in the team last season

Why are players like Martinelli, Trossard and Jesus allowed to ease back into the team, but Gyokeres needs to be banging in goals from the get go?

Because they still actually contribute when they're not banging in goals

The team has had to adapt to Merino being the centre forward. Completely different player. Now that Gyokeres is back, we need to adapt again.

Can Gyokeres get better? Yes. He improved game on game up until his injury. No pre-season and playing huge minutes. But the team need to get better as well. They need to get back to the levels we reached playing with Gyokeres against Burnley. Keeping in mind, too, Gyokeres has rarely played with Odegaard this season.

Sorry I find this narrative stupid.

Not all teams are going to let us reach the level we did against 19th placed Burnley lol. Would be nice if Odegaard actually passed to areas other than the right wing more often but not sure adapting our game for a low touch, poor technical target man is a great idea

 

[TY24]

Because they still actually contribute when they're not banging in goals

Gyokeres might not be banging in goals but to say he isn't contributing is incorrect.

It's no coincidence Trossard, Martinelli, and now Madueke are all hitting the scoreboard more than last season with Gyokeres in the team. He draws defenders and creates space for the wingers into that simply hasn't been there in seasons gone by.

Obviously it's not the return we had in mind when paying 60 odd million for a number 9... but if the team is winning with him in the lineup then that's all that really matters. And the fact is... Gyokeres has started 14 times this season for Arsenal, and we have won 12 of those 14 games.

Football matches are won on the pitch, not on a stats sheet.

And it doesn't help that we have become so used to playing without an actual striker that we seem to have forgotten how to create chances for one.



Give the lad chances and he will take them.