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This is the thread for discussing the War in Ukraine. Should you want to discuss the geopolitics, the history, or an interesting tangent, head over here:


If a post isn't directly concerning the events of the war or starts to derail the thread, report the post to us and we'll move it over there.

Seeing as multiple people seem to have forgotten, abuse is against the rules of BF. Continuous, page long attacks directed at a single poster in this thread will result in threadbans for a week from this point; doing so again once you have returned will make the bans permanent and will be escalated to infractions.

This thread still has misinformation rules, and occasionally you will be asked to demonstrate a claim you have made by moderation. If you cannot, you will be offered the opportunity to amend the post to reflect that it's opinion, to remove the post, or you will be threadbanned and infracted for sharing misinformation.

Addendum: from this point, use of any variant of the word 'orc' to describe combatants, politicians or russians in general will be deleted and the poster will receive a warning. If the behaviour continues, it will be escalated. Consider this fair warning.

Finally: If I see the word Nazi or Hitler being flung around, there had better have a good faith basis as to how it's applicable to the Russian invasion - as in, video/photographic evidence of POW camps designed to remove another ethnic group - or to the current Ukrainian army. If this does not occur, you will be threadbanned for posting off topic

This is a sensitive area, and I understand that this makes for fairly incensed conversation sometimes. This does not mean the rules do not apply, whether to a poster positing a Pro-Ukraine stance or a poster positing an alternative view.

Behave, people.
 
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I mean this is getting so alterverse ...

"Ukrainian drones equipped with net launchers have taken down 40 Russian Mavic UAVs and 3 FPV drones across multiple fronts."

Net launchers ffs!
Found this video.
Might need to copy link and paste in a separate tab to get a translation
 
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At the moment the Russian economy is riding a tiger. Getting off is lethal, but you cannot hang on forever.

Without continual money pumped into the war industry the entire economy falls over, but one day the money will run out.
 
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Denys Davydov's latest video includes a report that the Abrams tanks which Australia provided had arrived in Poland.
It’s a disgrace the US hasn’t shipped 100’s of Abrams to Ukraine. They’ve got heaps in storage, in case they are needed for a war with Russia. Well here’s the war in Europe they were originally built for.

They aren’t going to be used against China. The US aren’t getting into a land war in Asia. Taiwan would be a navy and Air Force war. They’ve learnt a land war in Asia is an even worse mistake than going in against a Sicilian when death is on the line.
 
It’s a disgrace the US hasn’t shipped 100’s of Abrams to Ukraine. They’ve got heaps in storage, in case they are needed for a war with Russia. Well here’s the war in Europe they were originally built for.

They aren’t going to be used against China. The US aren’t getting into a land war in Asia. Taiwan would be a navy and Air Force war. They’ve learnt a land war in Asia is an even worse mistake than going in against a Sicilian when death is on the line.
Maybe they want them for Canada and Mexico
 
Ukraine have bagged another S400 air defence system, this one in Crimea. Appears to be a drone strike, the link has video.


Ukraine appear to be picking apart Russian air defences in the occupied territories, unlike the Russians who seem to trying a terror campaign against civilians. Which provides a nice segue to this an article from the the SMH by a reporter in Kyiv:

Also first reports of Ukraine using new jet powered drone, which would seem to me to be indistinguishable from a cruise missile.

https://defence-blog.com/wreckage-confirms-combat-debut-of-ukraines-new-drone/
 

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Really have to wonder how many Trump towers Putin has promised him.

 
Azerbaijan cracks down on Russian propaganda





Seems like Putin is losing Azerbaijan. Probably didn't help that yet another Russian SAM operator shot down one of their passenger planes.
 

Norway has announced it will deploy F-35 fighter jets to Poland this autumn to strengthen the protection of a key logistical hub supporting Ukraine. The decision is aimed at reinforcing the security of Rzeszów Airport and Polish airspace within the framework of NATO's integrated air and missile defence.
 
The oil tanker Vilamoura, carrying 1 million barrels of oil, exploded off the coast of Libya. The vessel called at Russian ports twice, reports Bloomberg.

According to the consulting company Vanguard Tech, since the beginning of the year, similar explosions have occurred on four other vessels. All of them had previously called at Russian ports.
 

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That's really going to pin Putin into a corner and lead him to negotiate.

****en morons in the US. Someone assassinate the ****wit TACO man as soon as possible.
 
When absolute power corrupts.
How do they sleep at night, any of them?

 
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