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This is the thread for discussing the War in Ukraine. Should you want to discuss the geopolitics, the history, or an interesting tangent, head over here:


If a post isn't directly concerning the events of the war or starts to derail the thread, report the post to us and we'll move it over there.

Seeing as multiple people seem to have forgotten, abuse is against the rules of BF. Continuous, page long attacks directed at a single poster in this thread will result in threadbans for a week from this point; doing so again once you have returned will make the bans permanent and will be escalated to infractions.

This thread still has misinformation rules, and occasionally you will be asked to demonstrate a claim you have made by moderation. If you cannot, you will be offered the opportunity to amend the post to reflect that it's opinion, to remove the post, or you will be threadbanned and infracted for sharing misinformation.

Addendum: from this point, use of any variant of the word 'orc' to describe combatants, politicians or russians in general will be deleted and the poster will receive a warning. If the behaviour continues, it will be escalated. Consider this fair warning.

Finally: If I see the word Nazi or Hitler being flung around, there had better have a good faith basis as to how it's applicable to the Russian invasion - as in, video/photographic evidence of POW camps designed to remove another ethnic group - or to the current Ukrainian army. If this does not occur, you will be threadbanned for posting off topic

This is a sensitive area, and I understand that this makes for fairly incensed conversation sometimes. This does not mean the rules do not apply, whether to a poster positing a Pro-Ukraine stance or a poster positing an alternative view.

Behave, people.
 
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even worse than skynews?
Fox News is basically the mouthpeice of Donald Trump.

I mean you had Tucker Carlson holding the fort there for years.
 

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I knew Trump was crazy, but to start an on-camera shouting match with Zelenskyy - and effectively extort Ukraine out of its minerals and please Putin - is something else.

It was more Vance than Trump that started the problem. Why did Vance feel he could get away with hijacking his bosses meeting?
 
When did VPs ever get an active role.they are the. ‘Spare’
During the week in the leadup, Trump had been fact checked live by both Macron and Starmer - in seperate meetings, in front of the press - and was made to look like a tit.

The moment Zelensky tried to do this aswell, Vance intervened and shut him off with his most effective strategy - a loud and steady barrage of condescending bullshit.

Trump isn't smart enough to pull this off himself, he needed the backup of his cronies.
 
This was discussed on here a year or longer ago. Poland, Australia, Japan, Korea etc should now all seriously be considering Nuclear Weapons
Saddam and Gadaffi, both had nuclear programs and both abandoned them for US favour. Both killed in rather brutal fashion.

That was the lesson, apparently only Putin was paying attention
 

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Saddam and Gadaffi, both had nuclear programs and both abandoned them for US favour. Both killed in rather brutal fashion.

That was the lesson, apparently only Putin was paying attention
We saw how the sausage is made to quote a German.

Ukraine is getting auctioned off
https://www.politico.eu/article/critical-minerals-rare-earths-deal-eu-not-donald-trump/
Seems like Europe will have some clout.
Trump angry no Nobel Peace Prize.
Blackrock fill up incoming.
 
Seems like Europe will have some clout.
Trump angry no Nobel Peace Prize.
Blackrock fill up incoming.
free freedom GIF


Or something I guess
 

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