Warner

[aussie1st]

I too wanted to see Warner prove himself for NSW in the 50 over format before getting a ODI gig but now that he has it and given what he's done in the Test arena, I would leave him in there and hopefully he repays the faith by finding the balance required for 50 over cricket.

 

[Jimthegreat]

no he's mostly terrible in oders

I dare say that's anomaly. If he can slog in the 20/20's adjust for Test matches, one extreme to the other, I'd say his 50 over game will sort itself out inevitably.

 

[Phone]

I wouldn't say it's one extreme to the other actually. In terms of scoring runs, T20 and tests are all about boundaries. That's how you're getting your runs. Now there's the obvious extreme oppositions of time and field placements and so forth, but you're getting your runs through boundaries pretty much. So you're picking the gaps, having the shots and so forth. Warner's got no problems with that. We knew that in T20. We knew he could smash a six like few others, but you don't have the record he does in T20 just because of brute force. You've got to have other stuff to your bow. You actually look at many of the top T20 batsmen...it's Sangakkara, it's Gayle, it's even Kallis. You know, good Test/FC players. There's the odd curve-ball, of course - players who can't play the short-ball usually...... I'm not really sure what point I'm trying to make here, with those stats actually. I've gone off a bit. I'd delete it but I still think those are interesting stats so.

To get back on topic, I actually think T20 and ODers are a greater extreme, because in ODers it's more about the quick slog at the start and the end, and constant turn over of the strike in the middle. Some people, such as Cameron White, and I fear, despite being lightening quick between the wickets, Warner, just can't do that very well, so yeah they'll be the odd innings where everything goes right but they'll never be that consistency

There was a post somewhere about Warner's 165*, I'll just let you know that was done on a very flat, very small ground.

Then again he's played more good OD innings in his past 5 Oders than in the 2 seasons beforehand

 

[krisholio14]

Bump time

 

[BACCS]

What. A. God.

 

[Sman-21]

Lets not down play how good that knock was.

India had just been rolled out for less than 200.
They had to be worried going out there to bat thinking its hard work out there.
Plus its day 1 of a test match, now ive seen some great fast scoring in tests before but that was at times where the team had to score quickly for reasons.
This was day freaking 1 with absolutely no reason to be so aggressive, amazing batting.

Still he will be hit an miss as an opener some times it will come off sometimes it wont.
Im not convinced on him opening the batting long term, i would go the safer option a guy who will generally get 30+.
So far though hes grabbed the spot an been doing very well.

 

[Maddhew]

I wasn't a fan of his press conference. Could have been a little more humble, he let his bat do the talking so didn't see the need for him to twist the knife.

He is new, green and wouldn't have had a lot of media exposure. Needs some training for sure.

 

[krisholio14]

I wasn't a fan of his press conference. Could have been a little more humble, he let his bat do the talking so didn't see the need for him to twist the knife.

He is new, green and wouldn't have had a lot of media exposure. Needs some training for sure.

I reckon it's awesome he's willing to show a bit of arrogance and swagger now. It's not like he hasn't walked the walk, so he can talk the talk.

Just another thing about him that reminds me of Viv.

I remember back in the day if a fast bowler was stupid enough to mouth off to The Master Blaster, it wasn't long before that bowler would be watching one of his deliveries go 20 rows back into the stands. Just ask Rod Hogg for one.

Warner v Ishant was a very good example of that sort of thing today. Loved it

 

[Bucking Beads]

I wasn't a fan of him talking about India's future in test cricket but all the other stuff he said was fine. Brutal honesty.

 

[estibador]

What did he say?

 

[Maddhew]

I wasn't a fan of him talking about India's future in test cricket but all the other stuff he said was fine. Brutal honesty.

Totally Agree, i enjoyed his honesty about the banter on the field.

5 tests in he is not qualified to talk about India's Test future, it is not his place.

 

[Maddhew]

I reckon it's awesome he's willing to show a bit of arrogance and swagger now. It's not like he hasn't walked the walk, so he can talk the talk.

Just another thing about him that reminds me of Viv.

I remember back in the day if a fast bowler was stupid enough to mouth off to The Master Blaster, it wasn't long before that bowler would be watching one of his deliveries go 20 rows back into the stands. Just ask Rod Hogg for one.

Warner v Ishant was a very good example of that sort of thing today. Loved it

He walked the walk today. Is still very new to test cricket, and needs to show a little more respect.

As you said, he let his bat do the talking. Doesnt need to throw the cheapies regarding Indias test future into the press conference. 6 months ago Australia was a rabble in test cricket. We lost to NZ 3 tests ago. Hopefully we have turned a corner rather than dominating a sub standard pace attack. Too early to be criticising a team ranked higher than us in test cricket.

I love the guy, but cant help but think he took the gloss of a little when he could have been humble.

 

[Kyptastic]

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[krisholio14]

He walked the walk today. Is still very new to test cricket, and needs to show a little more respect.

As you said, he let his bat do the talking. Doesnt need to throw the cheapies regarding Indias test future into the press conference. 6 months ago Australia was a rabble in test cricket. We lost to NZ 3 tests ago. Hopefully we have turned a corner rather than dominating a sub standard pace attack. Too early to be criticising a team ranked higher than us in test cricket.

I love the guy, but cant help but think he took the gloss of a little when he could have been humble.

One thing you'll notice with Warner over time, he'll call it as he sees it. Sometimes it comes across as arrogant/disrespectful, other times it's going to come across as insightful/honest, sometimes all of the above.

Either way, i'd rather him speak his mind than talk in spin and cliches.

 

[Maddhew]

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CA censorship at its finest there. Cut out the last section.

 

[estibador]

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Cheers. So the bit where he was mouthing off about India's future was edited out I take it.

Interesting how a traditionally gentlemanly game like cricket has far more trash talking in the media than we ever see in footy.

 

[BABYBOMBERS2007]

Fantastic innings Great to see someone go for it and not get out.

 

[Cursed Cat]

Lifetime pass.

 

[Sman-21]

Interesting how a traditionally gentlemanly game like cricket has far more trash talking in the media than we ever see in footy.

Thats coz noone in footy is allowed to have a personality.
Thx to all the media training an political correctness etc etc.

Warner will ofcourse be told to be not so honest an think about things before he says them.
But still wont be as bad as whats happened in the AFL.
AFL players being interviewed these days is a waste of time, never have anything to say,never smack talk the opposition etc far too much toeing the line.

 

[NMFC 1811]

Great effort from an opener.

He's got the same attitude to batting as what Gilly did. Brought back a lot of great memories of the great man Gilchrist.

Sensational Davey Warner

 

[DeadlyAkkuret]

He walked the walk today. Is still very new to test cricket, and needs to show a little more respect.

As you said, he let his bat do the talking. Doesnt need to throw the cheapies regarding Indias test future into the press conference. 6 months ago Australia was a rabble in test cricket. We lost to NZ 3 tests ago. Hopefully we have turned a corner rather than dominating a sub standard pace attack. Too early to be criticising a team ranked higher than us in test cricket.

I love the guy, but cant help but think he took the gloss of a little when he could have been humble.

How boring. You must love AFL coach press conferences.

He was honest and that's all, he's not saying he's going to go out there and score a ton every innings and no one is expecting that. It's about time India copped it, we'll see how they handle it now.

 

[BarneyBent]

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Lol, I love how he said that if they'd won in Hobart that would be his favorite innings, but this one was, the implication being they'd already won this match.

Don't ever change, Davey. It's great to see some genuine competitive edge in the media. I'm fine with captains toeing the line, they pretty much have to and that's just a reality these days, but it's nice to see a young, aggressive opener talking like a young, aggressive opener would.

It was also great to see him constantly referring to "me and Ed", "Ed and I", etc. They looked really comfortable with each other out there, you could see Cowan was feeding Warner, willing him to succeed (gave a great fist-pump as soon as Warner connected on that six as well), and their man-hug when Warner passed 3 figures was as enthusiastic and genuine as you could hope to see. For a pair that haven't long been batting together, come from very different backgrounds, with seemingly very different attitudes to cricket both on and off the field, it's brilliant to see them clicking so well. It probably helps that they would have opened together for the NSW 2nd XI a few times in the past.

In any case, it seems like the start of a really promising partnership, and is a better reason than any for playing Watson down the order when he returns, as as good as Watson has been opening, he has never really managed to forge a good partnership with his opening partner (regular mix-ups with Katich, never clicked with Hughes).

 

[frankrizzo]

come from very different backgrounds, with seemingly very different attitudes to cricket both on and off the field, it's brilliant to see them clicking so well. It probably helps that they would have opened together for the NSW 2nd XI a few times in the past.

That odd couple mix worked a treat with taylor/slater as well, they were two very different blokes and batting approaches even further apart than cowan/warner.

I know some would love to see watson/warner opening as when it comes off it would be spectacular but i really think these two deserve a decent shot at forging a longer term partnership.

 

[Noobz0r]

Lol, I love how he said that if they'd won in Hobart that would be his favorite innings, but this one was, the implication being they'd already won this match.

Don't ever change, Davey. It's great to see some genuine competitive edge in the media. I'm fine with captains toeing the line, they pretty much have to and that's just a reality these days, but it's nice to see a young, aggressive opener talking like a young, aggressive opener would.

It was also great to see him constantly referring to "me and Ed", "Ed and I", etc. They looked really comfortable with each other out there, you could see Cowan was feeding Warner, willing him to succeed (gave a great fist-pump as soon as Warner connected on that six as well), and their man-hug when Warner passed 3 figures was as enthusiastic and genuine as you could hope to see. For a pair that haven't long been batting together, come from very different backgrounds, with seemingly very different attitudes to cricket both on and off the field, it's brilliant to see them clicking so well. It probably helps that they would have opened together for the NSW 2nd XI a few times in the past.

In any case, it seems like the start of a really promising partnership, and is a better reason than any for playing Watson down the order when he returns, as as good as Watson has been opening, he has never really managed to forge a good partnership with his opening partner (regular mix-ups with Katich, never clicked with Hughes).

Love this post

 

[BarneyBent]

That odd couple mix worked a treat with taylor/slater as well, they were two very different blokes and batting approaches even further apart than cowan/warner.

I know some would love to see watson/warner opening as when it comes off it would be spectacular but i really think these two deserve a decent shot at forging a longer term partnership.

Of course the odd couple pairing works with regard to batting style. It's more their personality styles I'm talking about. Cowan is a "silvertail" private school boy, an academic, a writer and a thinker, somewhat like Mike Hussey, who is a self-professed "nerd" of the game. Warner is a rough-as-guts Westie who speaks in cliches, doesn't worry about anything but his job and struggles a bit with diction (not that he's dumb, he's quite insightful when he wants to be, but it's fair to say he's not a great verbal communicator). When it comes to the conceptual divide between the north/east and west of Sydney (see stereotypes between Swans and GWS), they are pretty much the cricketing embodiment.

From an outsider's perspective, it's easy to imagine them just being completely unable to relate to one another. But so far, it appears they've got great chemistry, and probably complement each other off the field, as well as on.

I also agree that Watson and Warner might not be the best combination in terms of their attacking styles. On the other hand, Watson is a consistent 50-maker, while Warner is very much a boom-or-bust player, so they would complement each other in that facet.