West Indies v England Best of 5 T20s Dec 12-Dec 21 2023

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Don't think Russell enjoyed that one as much as the first match.
lol not quite though he did manage to inflict some handy damage at the end with the bat even though he only made 16 or whatever it was. One of his sixes was a ‘you have to see it to believe it’ shot. If you haven’t watched it, he basically set up to play it where he usually does over mid wicket, the bowler (Mills?) went wide and Russell got basically wrong footed and ended up on one leg falling over towards point and pretty much by the time he hit it had both feet off the ground and forehanded it over cover.


This article was a very good read regarding the difference in the two sides at the moment


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Is Tymal Mills any good anymore. I thought he was just a gun for hire these days

He’s rubbish.

Part of what I loosely refer to as England’s White Ball Trash Pile: these guys that they inexplicably just pluck from their domestic system and for basically no reason whatsoever they earmark as these specialists at some particular skill in white ball cricket: power play fast bowlers, middle over spin specialists, power hitters at the top of the order, ‘finishers,’ cutter bowlers or whatever and almost for every one of them that is actually picked because they are good at those things, there’s another who is utterly garbage at those things but they still keep getting picked because ‘they’re a specialist.’

It’s hilarious.
In the two games so far Mills has bowled maybe 2 decent overs. His record begs the question as to why he’s even considered.
 
Game 3:

England (Playing XI): Philip Salt, Jos Buttler(w/c), Will Jacks, Harry Brook, Moeen Ali, Liam Livingstone, Sam Curran, Adil Rashid, Gus Atkinson, Tymal Mills, Reece Topley

West Indies (Playing XI): Brandon King, Kyle Mayers, Nicholas Pooran(w), Shai Hope, Sherfane Rutherford, Rovman Powell(c), Andre Russell, Jason Holder, Gudakesh Motie, Akeal Hosein, Alzarri Joseph

England won toss and elected to field first.
 
West Indies cant play half decent spin in this format of the game.

Ali clean bowls Brandon King 1st over in Game 3


He’s got 1-25 from 3.

All teams struggle against genuinely good spin; Rashid bowls genuinely good spin. We also trolleyed Rehan Ahmed for 1-47 in the last game.
The stickiness of most of the Caribbean wickets mean we often struggle with being able to time our shots against spin but by and large we are not vastly different to most sides against decent spin in t20 cricket. All of them struggle
 
Even Rashid after his first over netted 1-1 has taken 1-30-odd from his next three.

Regardless of what type of bowling we are facing any of our deficiencies are highlighted because we are 6-dominant team. We don’t try and milk bowling and look to take four singles an over and target 1-2 balls that we might be able to hit to or over the boundary if they’re a bit loose: we think 6 first, 4 second, 1 if we have to, block last resort. It looks ugly if it doesn’t work.
 

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wow Phil Salt and Harry Brook. I fell asleep through that chase. What a chase

Crucial moment when Powell couldn’t quite get to a catch off a miscue from
salt - it was literally the only shot I remember him mistiming his whole innings apart from when he hit a catch off a free hit. In hindsight Powell probably used up Motie one over too early: we had sucked the momentum out of the chase anyway and all the bowlers were faring a bit better, he could have used basically any of the quicks at that point and saved one from Motie.

Brook clubbing his very first ball into orbit was a big moment too. At that moment they needed 40 off 13 I think
 
Add Will Jacks to that White Ball Trash Pile list as well. His t20 batting record domestically isn’t THAT bad but it definitely doesn’t demand selection and he shouldn’t be playing ODI cricket either as a batsman or the pretense of being an all rounder

Had a bit of a mare today but I think he could be the like-for-like replacement for Roy long term in both ODIs and T20, his spin is handy as a 6th bowling option too.
 
The Cricket WI press release says:

"NOTE: Jason Holder, Kyle Mayers and Nicholas Pooran declined the offer of central contracts but confirmed their availability for all West Indies T20 Internationals during the contract year."

So I'd say it doesn't look good for anything outside T20s.
they just want to play their franchise cricket and milk the T10 gravy train
 
they just want to play their franchise cricket and milk the T10 gravy train

Translation: their home board is among the poorest on the planet and can’t give them a real living.

I WANT them playing for my team and taking a central contract, make no mistake, and I’m disappointed.

But dismissing this as ‘getting on the gravy train’ is as stupid as it is uninformed.

These guys make f**k-all from playing international cricket mate.
 
Translation: their home board is among the poorest on the planet and can’t give them a real living.

I WANT them playing for my team and taking a central contract, make no mistake, and I’m disappointed.

But dismissing this as ‘getting on the gravy train’ is as stupid as it is uninformed.

These guys make f**k-all from playing international cricket mate.
People don't realise smaller cricketing nations make **** all compared to others. One of the Kiwi opening batsman from the last tour here worked at an accounting firm when not playing for NZ, meanwhile we have test only players like Lyon and Khawaja who make a heap just from one format.

As if Australian players wouldn't do the same if they made bugger all playing for their country.
 
As if Australian players wouldn't do the same if they made bugger all playing for their country.
It feels like the fringe players are already doing that eg Chris Greens, Daniel Sams, Chris Lynns, Tim David to name a few

Guys that havent been quite good enough to do it internationally for their country. I dont know the exact money but if the talk about some of these leagues around the world are paying more than BBL, I could understand why.
 
It feels like the fringe players are already doing that eg Chris Greens, Daniel Sams, Chris Lynns, Tim David to name a few

Guys that havent been quite good enough to do it internationally for their country. I dont know the exact money but if the talk about some of these leagues around the world are paying more than BBL, I could understand why.
Yeah I think if they don't see a future in longer form cricket, they can be a T20 'mercenary' and play in all the leagues all year round without being bound to CA, understandably too, can make a lot of money that way.
 

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