Analysis What is it with Eddie and plans?

[Bjo187]

The afl could do with someone like Eddie at the moment. They currently have no authority or influence with media and government and nobody respects them.

As long as he's controlled and a lot of his shit ideas are knocked on the head, they could do with his profile and influence, as they're getting killed in that space by the 'other mob' these days.

 

[windyhill]

Unfortunately he’s always been a campaigner.

 

[Peacock]

The afl could do with someone like Eddie at the moment. They currently have no authority or influence with media and government and nobody respects them.

He was a flop as CEO of channel 9 and would be a flop at the AFL.

I'll admit he was a good president for Collingwood, but his achievements are made to look much better due to the incompetence of Carlton and Essendon.

 

[Bjo187]

He was a flop as CEO of channel 9 and would be a flop at the AFL.

I'll admit he was a good president for Collingwood, but his achievements are made to look much better due to the incompetence of Carlton and Essendon.

Well yeah as chairman, president, those roles, he'd be really good coz of all his contacts, influence and promotion abilities. Just like at Collingwood.

The CEO at the afl typically does all the leg work, he'd actually help balance out Dillon as the most conservative and bland CEO in the history of the afl.

 

[Leeda]

He's a rich man's Basil Zempilas

No he is just a WAG

 

[Cleavy]

https://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/footy-world-blasts-eddie-mcguire-over-gws-tsunami-rant/news-story/a5d7954170306b124156954fe256be13

ok then, Eddie...

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Would you believe that Eddie has a plan?

 

[MJG14]

Thought of this thread immediately when I saw this tonight. It feels like he cycles through the some 'plans' each year, far from the first time he's wheeled out the umpiring one. Soon he'll be back to the building a roof on the MCG idea.

 

[GenericUsername202]

Eddie should be the CEO of the AFL. And i'm not even joking, he's a lot more competent than these 2 idiots in charge

 

[Cmarsh]

Eddie should be the CEO of the AFL. And i'm not even joking, he's a lot more competent than these 2 idiots in charge

The changes would come so thick and fast that no one could keep up.

He's a media man always looking for attention.

 

[Bjo187]

Eddie should be the CEO of the AFL. And i'm not even joking, he's a lot more competent than these 2 idiots in charge

I agree with this, he'd be chairman but Goyder doesn't want him there coz he'd be outshined. Eddie would only be good if he had people around him that aren't yes people and rein in his occasional stupid idea, but overall he'd be great for the game. Would work his backside off and really move the game forward like he did at the pies. Again, needs to be the right set up around him to work well though.

 

[living_in_syd]

The umpire idea actually not bad. Umpires shouldnt be doing half marathons each match

 

[Shane Heard]

Remembering that any ideas he has about the G are always geared towards benefiting Collingwood because of their big turnouts for matches.

 

[Cyclops]

Remembering that any ideas he has about the G are always geared towards benefiting Collingwood because of their big turnouts for matches.

The man is a self made millionaire workaholic who loves Collingwood and loves footy.

He did so much more good than harm at the Pies, came to us as a basket case with potential, left us a superpower with short term problems.

If he was head of the commission there'd be a general improvement, and the odd spectacular failure for flogs to moan about.

You'd all love it.

 

[Partridge]

The man is a self made millionaire workaholic who loves Collingwood and loves footy.

He did so much more good than harm at the Pies, came to us as a basket case with potential, left us a superpower with short term problems.

If he was head of the commission there'd be a general improvement, and the odd spectacular failure for flogs to moan about.

You'd all love it.

Perhaps, but a very, very distant second to how much he loves himself.

 

[The Sultan]

Would you believe that Eddie has a plan?

 

[Cyclops]

I reckon he could even fix Carlton.

 

[javaguice]

Come on guys, Eddie is alright.

 

[Bunk Moreland]

He’s far from the first to propose something like this re the umpires, I recall Leigh Matthews decades back talking about it.

Part of the theory is that umpires very often watch the game from the centre of the ground looking out, while the rest of us watch it looking in. We’re very often on opposite sides of the contest so see and miss certain things.

The idea is you have an umpire on both sides so both views are covered.

We now have eight umpires out there (4 field, 4 boundary) and you would have to think there’s a better way to deploy that.

Perhaps six around the boundary - a third of the ground each on both sides - with two central umpires looking out with a half of the ground each. All with the ability to make decisions.

We don’t need the outer umpires to turn their back to the play to throw it in either. They can throw it in facing the play, similar to a soccer throw in. They won’t get the same distance but they can just walk in a bit.

That way both sides of the contest are covered.

 

[Shane Heard]

The man is a self made millionaire workaholic who loves Collingwood and loves footy.

He did so much more good than harm at the Pies, came to us as a basket case with potential, left us a superpower with short term problems.

If he was head of the commission there'd be a general improvement, and the odd spectacular failure for flogs to moan about.

You'd all love it.

Pert did all the hard work.

Ed just brought in bigger sponsors. He’s a marketing guy.

 

[TheEscapeClub]

He was a flop as CEO of channel 9 and would be a flop at the AFL.

I'll admit he was a good president for Collingwood, but his achievements are made to look much better due to the incompetence of Carlton and Essendon.

He was a flop at 9 because the Sydney establishment didn't accept the Victorian.

 

[Cyclops]

Pert did all the hard work.

Ed just brought in bigger sponsors. He’s a marketing guy.

Pert left in 1995 as a player and returned in 2007 as a CEO, so it sounds like you are unfamiliar with the subject.

McGuire was elected in 1998 and the club was back in finals within four years. He brought on board a succession of top notch admin and footy people like Greg Swann, Neil Balme, Gary Pert and Graeme Wright, but to say he was only there to bring in the sponsors is plainly ignorant.

Eddie was a plans man, some were hare brained but most made us better. From the moment he hit the ground running he was sacking the cheer squad, moving to the G, internally reforming the past players and other coteries, poaching coaches etc etc.

Arguably our most important ever president, and certainly the most important since WW2.

 

[Bunk Moreland]

Pert left in 1995 as a player and returned in 2007 as a CEO, so it sounds like you are unfamiliar with the subject.

McGuire was elected in 1998 and the club was back in finals within four years. He brought on board a succession of top notch admin and footy people like Greg Swann, Neil Balme, Gary Pert and Graeme Wright, but to say he was only there to bring in the sponsors is plainly ignorant.

Eddie was a plans man, some were hare brained but most made us better. From the moment he hit the ground running he was sacking the cheer squad, moving to the G, internally reforming the past players and other coteries, poaching coaches etc etc.

Arguably our most important ever president, and certainly the most important since WW2.

Did a great job in a number of ways, the biggest issue was he stayed too long. That is often inevitable with big personalities and egos and it sets the organisation back as they can’t be reigned in. Same with Sheedy at Essendon.

Everybody has a use-by date and few are self-aware enough to know when it is and that they should go out when things are going well due to all the work they’ve done. Somebody like a Jurgen Klopp is a rare example of getting that right.

 

[Cyclops]

Did a great job in a number of ways, the biggest issue was he stayed too long. That is often inevitable with big personalities and egos and it sets the organisation back as they can’t be reigned in. Same with Sheedy at Essendon.

Everybody has a use-by date and few are self-aware enough to know when it is and that they should go out when things are going well due to all the work they’ve done. Somebody like a Jurgen Klopp is a rare example of getting that right.

I always said he should be judged by how he finished. The place had some smoke coming out of it, but we recovered quickly so it was more of a spot fire (leading to a fire sale) than an inferno. Also he's not actually gone, he's had several mates as president since he "left".

Frankly he transformed the club. We limped along from the 50's living off our huge supporter base while micro clubs like Hawthorn and North intelligently leveraged the evolution of the league into multiple flags.

My old High School Vice principal was a volunteer at Collingwood in the 1980's and 1990's and although he was unpaid he was handling a variety of important issues. Businessman presidents and ex player admin had patchy organisational skills which saw debt balloon out not because of outrageous spending (although he did that too) but because sport administration was a niche area which few clubs really understood.

There was an internal network of obligations and customs and practices that grew up and hardened into some sort of holy writ, stuff about certain people getting free tickets because they fixed something, or someone being responsible for an area of the club they had no expertise in just because they'd been there for decades. Player welfare was patchy, some blokes got looked after, others got shafted (which was very unCollingwood like, but it happened).

McGuire was no expert and made quite a few mistakes but he never stopped working and usually provided solutions to issues he created. Actually quite smart (puts a lot of work into seeming "average") and I'd have an ego if I made it from a single parent family in Broady to a mansion in Toorak.

 

[Stottzy]

Eddie is a great promoter, a fighter. If he would go to a competition like the A-League, which drastically needs better governance, he would do wonders. But during "peace time", when the AFL is clearly number 1, It just doesn't suit him.

I do think he does envy Peter V'landys a fair bit and is quite jealous.