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Opinion What is the plan for North?

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The crows have largely done a good job with their list.

Drafted pretty well.
Picked up discarded players who are playing important roles, eg Keays and hinge
Brought in talent

North has mucked up that many picks. Brought in spud players and can’t attract any genuine talent. Oh and they also lose the decent talent they have to other teams.

They’ve spent 6 seasons building their midfield and it sucks.
Only players I can think of are JHF and McKay who they let walk.
Who else?
 
He was bad, but Rawlings is worse imo.
Yep. Before North he was at WC. Which players did he draft at WC that are still playing that are any good? He's horrible
Bingo. Been saying it for the last 3 years, North simply cannot go into another draft with this clown involved. I guess he can't cook the first round pick this year as he's already given it away.
 

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Free agency was the worst thing to happen to clubs like North and St Kilda who are the smallest fish in the saturated VFL market.

There are too many teams in the VFL.

Perhaps. But it's not an excuse for them to still be as bad as they are.
 
Is it him, or the development after? North have the most top 10 draft picks in the comp, along with Suns. Luke Davies-Uniacke, Zane Duursma, Griffin Logue, Luke McDonald, Colby McKercher, Finn O'Sullivan, Will Phillips, Harry Sheezel, Dylan Stephens, George Wardlaw. It comes a time as a list manager when you must think, "what more do I have to do for you guys".
It's him.

Carlton and Melbourne were just as terrible culturally and in terms of player development but we still managed to pick some genuine stars along the way who were ultra competitive and team driven. Players you can build a club around.

Norths best player is LDU who from before he was drafted was more interested in surfing then playing footy. Got his huge contract and instantly lost interest.

Genuinely other than Wardlaw and Sheezel I can't see a single player that I think is the type to lead the club out of misery.

They've had an infinite number of high picks and the list still looks absolutely putrid even when projecting into the future.
 
Perhaps. But it's not an excuse for them to still be as bad as they are.
Proof is in the pudding. Free agency and compromised drafts have not been good for the evenness of the league. It is too hard to rebuild when the best players are being taken by teams not down the bottom
 
Clarkson was the great white hope.

It’s gonna be interesting to see how that unfolds now - at what point does everybody admit it hasn’t worked, and where the hell do they go from there.

Talented young players going elsewhere is what will really rip their heart out. Players won’t hang around for this.

Clarko seen as the hope is the problem. Clearly out of ideas way before he got there. The shit decisions this club have made with him (and Rawlings) are far more responsible for where they're at than free agency or whatever people want to blame for why bigger and more secure clubs stay ahead of them.
 
Clarkson was the great white hope.

It’s gonna be interesting to see how that unfolds now - at what point does everybody admit it hasn’t worked, and where the hell do they go from there.

Talented young players going elsewhere is what will really rip their heart out. Players won’t hang around for this.

Yes this is the problem now. Talented 22-24yos walking out the door to Collingwood, Hawthorn, Geelong, Freo, etc.
 
Proof is in the pudding. Free agency and compromised drafts have not been good for the evenness of the league. It is too hard to rebuild when the best players are being taken by teams not down the bottom

Again maybe. But it's not a reason or excuse for them to still be this bad. They have made horrendous decisions regarding coaching and list management.
 

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Oh jesus, I forgot they traded their first rounder this year, for a second rounder last year. Makes it very hard to put your hand out for a high priority pick or complain about compromised drafts when you make decisions like that.
 
Those are two huge losses in the scheme of a build
JHF sure. McKay is debatable - he was terrible in the 18 months before he left. It's hardly Brisbane levels of exodus.

If North wanted him they would have kept him - looking at his performances at Essendon id say it was justified.
It was what they did with compo pick that's the problem.
 
JHF sure. McKay is debatable - he was terrible in the 18 months before he left. It's hardly Brisbane levels of exodus.

If North wanted him they would have kept him - looking at his performances at Essendon id say it was justified.
It was what they did with compo pick that's the problem.

Your defence is god awful. He’d be an upgrade on what you have. But you’re correct that it’s more than one player.

You may need to do what st Kilda is doing and just offer crazy irresponsible contracts to players to get them on the list.
 

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