What's a Collingwood Conspiracy That You Believe To Be True?

[HeathySure]

Why don't you straighten it out for us? Because at this stage almost everyone is of the opinion that Beams did the club dirty.

There is not much point because everyone has made up their mind, but Beams went to the club asking for help over his mental well being and was basically told to find his own. That's the gist

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

There is not much point because everyone has made up their mind, but Beams went to the club asking for help over his mental well being and was basically told to find his own. That's the gist

Maybe they had thrown enough wasted money in his direction.

 

[Jasper84]

There is not much point because everyone has made up their mind, but Beams went to the club asking for help over his mental well being and was basically told to find his own. That's the gist

Unfortunately that version doesn't really add up considering at the time we had one of the best psychologists, Jacqui Lauder, at the club who is well known to help our player's struggling with mental health.


Also why would the club not help a player that they have 2 million dollars (and rumoured more) invested in? Surely it's in the club's interest to do to all they can help him get right?

Unless his behaviour was so toxic, particularly to younger players, that the club couldn't have him back. Beams himself admitted earlier this year that he would lie and manipulate others to get prescription drugs.

 

[golazo]

Malthouse to Carlton was sabotage planned by Collingwood and Mick

 

[ZEV]

You can say what you like about Beams, he is now running a business where all funds are channeled to mental health charities set up by his manager.

Dayen runs an art supplies business where be buys stuff from Ikea, paints it and sells it for 500% markup.

He runs a workshop where he talks about his addiction while teaching epoxy.

The only mental health charity the funds go to is the help Dayne get a brand new Dodge Ram foundation.

Looks like you fell for the pity party act as well.

 

[Capital Magpie]

I have sometimes heard it said that when Collingwood recruited Phil Carman from SA i n 1977, he left behind his girlfriend, who was said to dabble in the dark arts i.e. a witch.

Said girlfriend was said to be so incensed at Phil's departure that she put a 30 year hex on Collingwood.

Hhhmmm.

 

[HeathySure]

Dayen runs an art supplies business where be buys stuff from Ikea, paints it and sells it for 500% markup.

He runs a workshop where he talks about his addiction while teaching epoxy.

The only mental health charity the funds go to is the help Dayne get a brand new Dodge Ram foundation.

Looks like you fell for the pity party act as well.

See like i said everyone has made up their minds but he has set up payments to go to charity THROUGH HIS MANAGER to pay profits to mental health charities.

Dayne made lots of money off Collingwood because Collingwood decided not to help him, he was quite willing to play on but didnt get any support.

Not saying who is at fault here but there are 2 sides to every story

 

[Pie eyed]

Malthouse and Daisy just went to Carlton to troll the bastards.

 

[Pie eyed]

That the Rand Corporation, in conjuction with the saucer people, under the supervision of the reverse vampires, forced the 2002 GF goal umpire to rule Roccas goal a point in a fiendish plot to eliminate the joy of GF victory from Magpie hearts!

Nothing as joyous as a grand imagination.

 

[Jasper84]

See like i said everyone has made up their minds but he has set up payments to go to charity THROUGH HIS MANAGER to pay profits to mental health charities.

Dayne made lots of money off Collingwood because Collingwood decided not to help him, he was quite willing to play on but didnt get any support.

Not saying who is at fault here but there are 2 sides to every story

Everyone hasn't made up their minds, it's just that nobody seems to provide evidence refuting the general allegations that the club welcomed him back and paid his gambling debts. Then he manipulated younger players to lie to get Endone for him, a couple of which ended up getting hooked themselves. Take your post for example. Why didn't the club support him? There has to be a reason.

 

[KinderSmock]

Many years ago when I walked with a spring and could see my nether regions I sat in Bay 13 to watch the windies play australia in a one day game. Mollie Meldrum walked down and someone started a chant that ended up having everyone stand up and finger point at Meldrum chanting Mollies a NTTAWWTter. A few minutes later some police escorted Mollie safely out of Bay 13. It seemed funny at the time but on reflection horrible and no doubt Mollie felt threatened and abused.
The funny thing is I suspect the majority of the very drunk bay 13 (full strength back then) grew up to Mollie, loved him then and still do now. I remember a crowd chant at the MCG of tazza's a sniffer during a Freo Pies final but we welcomed him back with open arms. Whilst there are always exceptions I don't think in general the crowd treatment in these cases was heartfelt. I am not excusing it but I do think its carried away mob mentality and a joke rather than true antagonism. If a player came out next year and the media dealt with it well I can see them being cheered by the majority just as easily as being derided.

It would be tough whether the media was supportive or not (although, these days, the media is usually very supportive as often players have struggled with their sexualities). Schools and work places are bad enough, let alone in sport. That's why I almost think two players might come out as a couple or together as it would mean both received less scrutiny and could support each other. I hope that in the next decade one player feels like they are safe enough to come out. Because it's not about us, it's about what it does for them. Coming out publicly means they feel comfortable enough to be open and they will be supported and accepted for who they are. There is obviously at least one gay or bisexual player (population statistics would indicate more) but at the moment, those players probably aren't comfortable or ready to be out in public.

 

[ZEV]

See like i said everyone has made up their minds but he has set up payments to go to charity THROUGH HIS MANAGER to pay profits to mental health charities.

Dayne made lots of money off Collingwood because Collingwood decided not to help him, he was quite willing to play on but didnt get any support.

Not saying who is at fault here but there are 2 sides to every story

"It wasn't until I started sharing my artwork with my following to show what a positive impact it had on my mental health that people started to show interest in buying my artwork which led me here, creating my own website selling my artwork. I thought what better way to give back than choose a charity organisation that I can strongly relate with and donate a percentage of each art piece sale"

Dayne's words from Dayne's website.

Note that he doesn't state what the percentage is. Or even sell art anymore.

But go support him and by some relabelled epoxy and pat yourself on the back...

 

[HeathySure]

Everyone hasn't made up their minds, it's just that nobody seems to provide evidence refuting the general allegations that the club welcomed him back and paid his gambling debts. Then he manipulated younger players to lie to get Endone for him, a couple of which ended up getting hooked themselves. Take your post for example. Why didn't the club support him? There has to be a reason.

i have no clue, i only know that he had a problem and the club didnt help him, could be any reason, but he went to rehab and now admitted his problems so he could have been redeemed? And we could have got a couple more years on the field? Did the club try hard enough? Did the leadership at the time have no tolerence? Did the other players get hooked because of Dayne? Given the drug culture of the generation i dont think you can fully blame one person.
I just hate the full on pile on, yes he made mistakes but he has also taken steps to make himself a better person and thats all he can do.

 

[Bussie]

"It wasn't until I started sharing my artwork with my following to show what a positive impact it had on my mental health that people started to show interest in buying my artwork which led me here, creating my own website selling my artwork. I thought what better way to give back than choose a charity organisation that I can strongly relate with and donate a percentage of each art piece sale"

Dayne's words from Dayne's website.

Note that he doesn't state what the percentage is. Or even sell art anymore.

But go support him and by some relabelled epoxy and pat yourself on the back...

0.1 is a percent.

 

[Jasper84]

i have no clue, i only know that he had a problem and the club didnt help him, could be any reason, but he went to rehab and now admitted his problems so he could have been redeemed? And we could have got a couple more years on the field? Did the club try hard enough? Did the leadership at the time have no tolerence? Did the other players get hooked because of Dayne? Given the drug culture of the generation i dont think you can fully blame one person.
I just hate the full on pile on, yes he made mistakes but he has also taken steps to make himself a better person and thats all he can do.

Sounds like the club already gave him redemption when they brought him back from Brisbane. There is no way the club would cast him out if his behaviour wasn't directly affecting other players. I can see how they might work with him if he had only damaged himself but you can't expect a multi million dollar elite sporting club to put other employees at risk again just because he says that he's all better now.

 

[HeathySure]

Sounds like the club already gave him redemption when they brought him back from Brisbane. There is no way the club would cast him out if his behaviour wasn't directly affecting other players. I can see how they might work with him if he had only damaged himself but you can't expect a multi million dollar elite sporting club to put other employees at risk again just because he says that he's all better now.

You are just assuming. You dont know and either do I, but i do know he is trying to make amends just like Gavin Crosisca did.

 

[Pie eyed]

0.1 is a percent.

True and more than some major companies paid in tax this decade while taking Jobkeeper.

 

[Obese Arachnid]

The reason for Salty Malty's poor 2011 coaching was he was regularly distracted by Glascott's monkey.

 

[GCMagpie]

It would be tough whether the media was supportive or not (although, these days, the media is usually very supportive as often players have struggled with their sexualities). Schools and work places are bad enough, let alone in sport. That's why I almost think two players might come out as a couple or together as it would mean both received less scrutiny and could support each other. I hope that in the next decade one player feels like they are safe enough to come out. Because it's not about us, it's about what it does for them. Coming out publicly means they feel comfortable enough to be open and they will be supported and accepted for who they are. There is obviously at least one gay or bisexual player (population statistics would indicate more) but at the moment, those players probably aren't comfortable or ready to be out in public.

Statistically, out of 400 players, there’d be around 10 who identified as gay.

However, I’m sure it’s less, given the non-inclusive nature of elite sport. Many gay potential athletes were likely pushed out of the system quite early.

I’d love for a few boys to band together and ‘rip the bandaid off’. Then there’d be no one person referred to forever as “AFL’s first openly gay player” and those young boys feeling alienated in the juniors might feel empowered enough to stick with it.

A girl can dream!

 

[Pie eyed]

The reason for Salty Malty's poor 2011 coaching was he was regularly distracted by Glascott's monkey.

Post of the thread.....
I just managed to snort a whole blackberry out my nose.

 

[Gabbo64]

Damian Monkhurst and Tony Francis were twins separated at birth.

 

[Hyakutake]

The reason for Salty Malty's poor 2011 coaching was he was regularly distracted by Glascott's monkey.

Is that anywhere near Shattners Bassoon?

 

[Scritchyscroony]

Is that anywhere near Shattners Bassoon?

Did you mean baboon?

 

[Carringbush2010]

North's Escort Cup win after the umpire didn't hear the siren. Aylett fixed the result.

Was at that game, when the siren blew it was 'yes!' only to have it taken away - soul destroying.

 

[Carringbush2010]

Nathan offered to wait until Mick was ready to step down from the coaching position before taking the reins. Eddie said no.

Thanks Eddie - NOT!