Will Essendon win the Flag ?

[Lance Uppercut]

Fess up Bombers fans - you really do think you can win the flag, you just don't want the pressure !

you know it

Easily the Dons should be the first or second favs for 2012, smashed the Blues and destroyed the other teams they have played, should have beaten the Pies as well. I can only see the Eagles and Cats giving them a run. They have some elite players and star young kids not sure who can stop them, not trolling its just the cold hard facts.

sorry mate, Hirdy did it best with the Fab Four article in the HUN. This can only ever be a pale imitation

 

[The Magenius]

Easily the Dons should be the first or second favs for 2012, smashed the Blues and destroyed the other teams they have played, should have beaten the Pies as well. I can only see the Eagles and Cats giving them a run. They have some elite players and star young kids not sure who can stop them, not trolling its just the cold hard facts.

Agree with this, and with their win over geelong last year I can't help but think they are a massive show for the flag.

 

[Drummer_19]

Agree with this, and with their win over geelong last year I can't help but think they are a massive show for the flag.

You're not even trying now.

 

[Ben the Gooner]

On Saturday night, if both sides were full strength, Bombers would have no chance.

So we have better depth than you?

Seeing as you won't have Le Cras for the season, possibly not Nicoski and you're without Kennedy for 3 months that doesn't bode well for you.

 

[Ambrosia]

Further, we saw what happens when a good defender marks Crameri in the Collingwood game. He will be a gun and should improve, but not before the Grand Final.

Bit harsh on Crameri he has beaten good defenders before and due to not having Hurley in the side he wasn't played in is usual high half forward role.

 

[Astro Bomber]

Not just this years premiership but, the next 5 in a row. Its a dynasty people!

 

[Mr Mojo Risin]

Further, we saw what happens when a good defender marks Crameri in the Collingwood game. He will be a gun and should improve, but not before the Grand Final.

It's worthy of note that Nathan Brown did not have a 4 day break. So while he beat Crameri, he had a distinct advantage in that game.

 

[Lord Nicholson]

It's worthy of note that Nathan Brown did not have a 4 day break. So while he beat Crameri, he had a distinct advantage in that game.

On the other hand it was a 578 day break, which probably isn't ideal.

 

[Mr Mojo Risin]

On the other hand it was a 578 day break, which probably isn't ideal.

Not like he hadn't had fitness or VFL games since, but I take your point. I would imagine he still had a distinct advantage.

 

[forwardflanker]

The important factor in that is that if we play a West Coast, Hawthorn, Geelong, Carlton, Collingwood and all their star players fire, we'll probably lose.

This pretty much sums it up and is exactly why Essendon won't challenge for the flag this year or in coming seasons. Other than Hurley, there is just no guenuine star power and this especially so in the midfield. In a finals atmosphere I just can't see Essendon's onballers competing at allwith the midfields of Carlton, Collingwood, Geelong, West Coast and even Hawthorn or West Coast. I'd expect all of these sides to easilly account for the current crop of Essendon players. Essendon have a very mid table list that is overachieving atm, as my Grandfather used to say, you can't polish a ****.

 

[Number 10]

Bit harsh on Crameri he has beaten good defenders before and due to not having Hurley in the side he wasn't played in is usual high half forward role.

It is, he has been good though. You just have to judge these players against their best counterparts of GF quality. I don't mean to single out Crameri, but this is a thread about Essendon. I can at the same time say Dawes would have little impact in a Granny at this stage against a GF quality opponent as well. In fact, Crameri would probably play better than Dawes who has been shocking this year.

 

[Lance Uppercut]

Essendon have a very mid table list that is overachieving atm, as my Grandfather used to say, you can't polish a ****.

strong contradiction is strong

 

[Dwight Schrute]

This pretty much sums it up and is exactly why Essendon won't challenge for the flag this year or in coming seasons. Other than Hurley, there is just no guenuine star power and this especially so in the midfield. In a finals atmosphere I just can't see Essendon's onballers competing at allwith the midfields of Carlton, Collingwood, Geelong, West Coast and even Hawthorn or West Coast. I'd expect all of these sides to easilly account for the current crop of Essendon players. Essendon have a very mid table list that is overachieving atm, as my Grandfather used to say, you can't polish a ****.

Can you name Carltons "star power".
Because Essendon are developing some pretty good players in Crameri, Hurley, Pears, Heppell, Zaharakis and Bellchambers.

 

[larson]

It is, he has been good though. You just have to judge these players against their best counterparts of GF quality. I don't mean to single out Crameri, but this is a thread about Essendon. I can at the same time say Dawes would have little impact in a Granny at this stage against a GF quality opponent as well. In fact, Crameri would probably play better than Dawes who has been shocking this year.

Crameri playing as a stay at home ff worked straight into Brown's hands, as he is as strong as anybody in the league, even though Crameri is strong, beating Brown in a wrestle is impossible. Crameri works best when he is allowed to run, as he will either be able to outrun or outmuscle his opponent depending on who it is.

 

[Macca18]

After their dominant 1 point victory over Essendon on Anzac Day, there are some Collingwood supporters suddenly experts on all things Essendon and their list.

 

[Necromancer Beth]

Can you name Carltons "star power".
Because Essendon are developing some pretty good players in Crameri, Hurley, Pears, Heppell, Zaharakis and Bellchambers.

Murphy, Judd, Scotland, Kreuzer, Simpson, Carrazo, Waite, Yarran, Henderson & Betts is a better top end than Essendons by a fair way. Carlton along with Hawthorn & Collingwood have the best "top end" talent by miles.

 

[Dwight Schrute]

Murphy, Judd, Scotland, Kreuzer, Simpson, Carrazo, Waite, Yarran, Henderson & Betts is a better top end than Essendons by a fair way. Carlton along with Hawthorn & Collingwood have the best "top end" talent by miles.

We obviously have very different definitions of top end talent. Cough Waite, Henderson, Yarran.
Suprised you havent mentioned Geelong in the best top end talent, has hatred of the club affected your decision?
We obviously dont have as much star power as Carlton but we definitely do have some.

 

[larson]

Murphy, Judd, Scotland, Kreuzer, Simpson, Carrazo, Waite, Yarran, Henderson & Betts is a better top end than Essendons by a fair way. Carlton along with Hawthorn & Collingwood have the best "top end" talent by miles.

lol...

 

[Ambrosia]

This pretty much sums it up and is exactly why Essendon won't challenge for the flag this year or in coming seasons. Other than Hurley, there is just no guenuine star power and this especially so in the midfield. In a finals atmosphere I just can't see Essendon's onballers competing at allwith the midfields of Carlton, Collingwood, Geelong, West Coast and even Hawthorn or West Coast. I'd expect all of these sides to easilly account for the current crop of Essendon players. Essendon have a very mid table list that is overachieving atm, as my Grandfather used to say, you can't polish a ****.

Ours and West Coast midfields are quite close in terms of ability. Imo

Watson - Priddis
Stanton - Kerr
Zaharakis - Shuey
Hocking - Selwood
Melksham- Gaff

 

[Dwight Schrute]

Ours and West Coast midfields are quite close in terms of ability. Imo

Watson - Priddis
Stanton - Kerr
Zaharakis - Shuey
Hocking - Selwood
Melksham- Gaff

Wait for people to jump on Kerr-Stanton even though Stanton has had the better past 3 years.(Injury obviously effecting that)

 

[Ambrosia]

It is, he has been good though. You just have to judge these players against their best counterparts of GF quality. I don't mean to single out Crameri, but this is a thread about Essendon. I can at the same time say Dawes would have little impact in a Granny at this stage against a GF quality opponent as well. In fact, Crameri would probably play better than Dawes who has been shocking this year.

Yeah and I'm disagreeing with you. I think Crameri is built for finals footy and would perform extremely well unless he is playing as a stay at home full forward.

Edit: that being said I see where you are coming with other players on our list.

 

[Sector 7G]

Wait for people to jump on Kerr-Stanton even though Stanton has had the better past 6 weeks.(Injury obviously effecting that)

Edited for accuracy

 

[bombermick]

That's what the Hawks thought in 2008. We won the one nobody expected us to, and then haven't been able to achieve a flag from 2009-2011 which was our aim.

Don't spend too much time dreaming of the future when it could be all happening right now. I don't think Essendon will win this year, but you never know.

Good post. I'm almost positive we won't snag one this year, and top four is perhaps a stretch - however you never know when you can grab one "before your time."

Essendon can't be thinking "we'll do it when Joey D matures" or "we get that classy inside-out mid."

 

[Dwight Schrute]

Edited for accuracy

Well thats just stupid, take a look at the past couple years.

 

[Sector 7G]

Well thats just stupid, take a look at the past couple years.

Not sure the Eagles fans were "bronx cheering" Kerr let season.
Kerr played a cracking final against Carlton. You can't say the same for Stanton.

Stanton has had a fantastic season and a great back end to last year, but don't try and rewrite history.