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I was very happy being single, now Im in a relationship when decision making is shared and we still pursue our individual interests.Go MGTOW.
Can everyone come clean on their huge bias here?
Mine is that I want my male friends to be able to express anything that makes them healthier mentally.
And for men that may be by saying "man up"
While you may see that as saying "you're a weak and powerless man, toughen up" a man may see it as "it's no big deal, you're tough, it'll get better".
I find it insulting that you feel you are in a position to tell males what is and isn't an acceptable way of communicating amongst themelves, but unfortunately, it's not just you, but modern day culture. Women now feel empowered to not only decide for their own gender what is acceptable to them, but now also men.
What makes you think you have the right to be able to decide for men what is and isn't an acceptable way to express themselves? If men were to say "women need to stop whinging about their feelings", you would have a ******* meltdown.
Would I?
Have you ever seen me have a meltdown?
What makes you think you have the right to be able to decide for men what is and isn't an acceptable way to express themselves? If men were to say "women need to stop whinging about their feelings", you would have a ******* meltdown.
For the second point, that's an unfair comparison because I'm not saying men shouldn't be expressing themselves. I'm saying men shouldn't create a culture where expressing their feelings is a sign of weakness. That's literally the opposite.
What makes me think I have the right to decide for men what is and isn't acceptable?
Refer my previous point. I'm suggesting that men not create a culture of putting each other down as a joke so that there is a free space in the emotional air to get out anything that needs to be shared.
The alternative is to keep bottling it up, like a man, suffering in silence, like a man, not finding out what services are available to help, like a man, and finally reaching the end of the emotional line and taking his own life, like a man.
It is crazy.
And I think that mate you make fun of for being ugly feels it much worse than you see.
Hypocrite.
Speaking for myself, I don't demand anything. I do expect those things though.
I've been doing that for the last two decades. Now thinking MGTOW is looking a pretty good option.I was very happy being single, now Im in a relationship when decision making is shared and we still pursue our individual interests.
You'll meet the right person one day
He was talking about a situation where guys make jokes about being tough and it's all a joke but when a woman does it the joke becomes oppressive manipulation.
My point was that it was already oppressive manipulation by men of men.
I actually think it's done by small strength (internal) men struggling with something to other men in order to keep the playing field level. How dare another man be brave enough to cry, or talk about how he feels. You're all islands remember? That is the culture that is killing young men.
Get your s**t in the open, realise you're all going through it and get through it as a team. That's what men are way better than women at. You will all rally behind each other and jog along together.
Act. Belong. Commit.
The middle one is what men need to focus on, because men commit to their friends already.
I can't both be excluded from a group when discussing the use of terms like "man up" (where he said that when guys do it is just a joke but women saying it is manipulation) and then attacked for being excluded from a group.
I didn't make this a man only issue, he did
Can everyone come clean on their huge bias here?
Mine is that I want my male friends to be able to express anything that makes them healthier mentally.
Nobody has said men are the sole perpetrators. In a domestic violence situation, most of the time you'll find a man committing the assaults. That's just a fact.
I think the media sanitising of suicide is actually a result of the attitude that it is a cowards way out/ wasn't tough enough to cope/ selfish act etc etc. The resulting tarnishing of character for the person who took their own life is a huge worry for print media.
The newspaper could print that a person took their own life and the emotional family could sue them for defamation.
Society sucks when it comes to mental health, it's only now swinging around to accepting an open dialogue.
If there isn't justice for all then there is justice for none.
I heard a stat that said a third of girls would be sexually abused before they are adults, twenty percent of boys the same and 90% of these abusers are trusted people in their lives, 70% are family members.
How can we start a dialogue about that when it requires society to give up no the stranger danger message and look inward?
The same I think is the story with other forms of domestic violence.
This post is just to show that there are lots of elephants in the room at the moment.
I called you a hypocrite too, and, I backed it up.If you're going to label me a hypocrite, at least back it up with reasoning. Or is that beyond you?
If you don't demand those things, but you expect it, it's basically the same difference. You have a sense of entitlement.
I've been doing that for the last two decades. Now thinking MGTOW is looking a pretty good option.
new phase of life, I guess.Why is that?
I was very happy being single, now Im in a relationship when decision making is shared and we still pursue our individual interests.
You'll meet the right person one day