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I'm convinced that Rod Marsh is absolutely f***ed in the head.
Get rid of this arseclown ASAP.
Get rid of this arseclown ASAP.
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The Marsh name is ruining Australian cricket
It's not rocket science is it - we have a plan with Pattinson but suddenly we threaten to throw it out the window because of circumstances. Allow me to float the name "Pat Cummins" as exhibit A of how to destroy a bowlers career through poor management.
Bucking Beads
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Bringing in NCN with no cricket under his belt is another recipe for injury I would expect. The selectors really struggle to give us any confidence in them at all.
LukeParkerno1
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You have got to be kidding me
Siddle - Back Spasms - worry
Dorff - Possible stress fractures - 2nd time - Pat Cummins
LukeParkerno1
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He was awful, however I don't blame him- I blame the selectors. You don't pick blokes off a couple of games here and there. Bird has a better chance of succeeding at test level right now. If Boland does it for a season, I'm all for it. I always say, reward performances.
Bucking Beads
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As much as I don't rate Boland at least he has taken wickets in the shield this year. Bird should have been picked though.
LukeParkerno1
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Cummins at least is only 22. I have said it for a while, don't play a quick till they are 24 bare minimum. Their body needs to fill out first. I am less concerned about Siddle, but then again the alternative is NCN who hasn't played a game this year...good grief.
LukeParkerno1
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Oh I agree he has done very well, but it is what 3 games this season? Surely we would require a fraction more performances, but maybe that is just me.
Bucking Beads
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We'd like more but it is what it is. Slim pickings with so many injuries.
Don't worry lads. Paris and Stanlake are available for selection.
What could go wrong?
What could go wrong?
LukeParkerno1
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Bird then, at least we know he can cut it at test level.
LukeParkerno1
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Do not give Lehmann ideas please! He is already playing Pattinson way too early..
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Wouldn't NCN and M.Marsh be almost vying for the same job?
Here are the first class stats this season;
http://stats.espncricinfo.com/austr...er.html?class=4;host=2;id=2015/16;type=season
Take out the Test players, take out the spinners, and take out the old trundler, Hopes... you've basically got Bird, Mennie and Boland... and then Doug the Rug. Mennie and Boland are having reasonable seasons, but have had pretty unremarkable careers. IMHO, Bird is clearly the standout in every possible way... best performed this season, best career record AND a previous Test-level performer. AND he is only 2+ years older than Boland.
If we had a fleet of genuinely quick, quality bowlers, then we could afford to be choosy. But we don't.
http://stats.espncricinfo.com/austr...er.html?class=4;host=2;id=2015/16;type=season
Take out the Test players, take out the spinners, and take out the old trundler, Hopes... you've basically got Bird, Mennie and Boland... and then Doug the Rug. Mennie and Boland are having reasonable seasons, but have had pretty unremarkable careers. IMHO, Bird is clearly the standout in every possible way... best performed this season, best career record AND a previous Test-level performer. AND he is only 2+ years older than Boland.
If we had a fleet of genuinely quick, quality bowlers, then we could afford to be choosy. But we don't.
Hey if people can advocate for Klinger why not Hopes
Bird seemed so clear cut. We know he is decent so why not play him?
Just because you bowl fast doesn't make you good.
Just because you bowl fast doesn't make you good.
Isn't Bird just coming back from a long lay-off through injury?
I realise that doesn't explain NCN, but it does explain Boland. At least the bloke seems to be fit.
I can see the logic behind NCN and behind Boland. But the logic is contradictory.
turns out the only things worse than nsw bias is vic and wa bias
Bird is the leading wicket taker in the Shield so far this year after 4 rounds and has played 3 games at Bellerive this year. All logic should suggest that he is next in line, but NCN has got the nod without having bowled a ball in anger in first class cricket in 9 months.
Strange choice - only rationale I can see is that they the selectors think that an attack of Hazlewood, Siddle & Bird would be too similar - but from what I've seen that isn't what they have been saying publicly.
Bucking Beads
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Isn't Sayers the guy that Ponting took a pot-shot at a few years ago... basically saying he was getting his wickets because of overly helpful pitches. It was a general statement about the quality of bowlers in the Shield at the time, but he specifically named Sayers.
Besides, there is no way we should ever select a guy named Chad, let alone someone named Chadd.
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