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Or get him as a free agent next year.
That's when I'd try. Bugger giving up valuable draft picks this year at the expense of bringing in more talent and give Collingwood nothing for him next year.
Plus we get another year into everyone and by 2016 I reckon we'd be just about ready to push for the eight.
Rather use pick 5 on an absolute certain star for the next 7 years than speculate with a youngster and lose Beams to the Coast if they start to dominate and really look like a flag favourite and the only QLD team you want to go to!
I think it all depends on aesthetics.So let me understand you. You don't want Wright and you don't want McCartin. Any chance come draft day you will like any kid coming to Brisbane?
I actually rate Leuenberger... just that I rate him behind Martin.
Aesthetically I take it. I rate Wright I like his name and his hair style.
I agree with others in that we should push hard for Beams during his FA year. It will give Leppa another year of list management to see where he how he wants to play the game, another year into our young guns and the ability for us to hopefully draft in a quality KPP. Let's just hope Collingwood continue sliding next season and we make the 8.
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Ah really? My bad then. Would definitely use our first to secure him if we can't land a decent key forward in the draft and of course if he actually wants to leave.
2 year's to get our list sorted then add Beams as icing on the cake
2 year's to get our list sorted then add Beams as icing on the cake
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I'd like to see everyone's opinions about what Stef Martins trade value is right now. What/who would you take for him on his current form? Two clubs I could possibly see going after Stef are Geelong & Carlton.
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Depends what is offered, because I wouldnt float him for trade.
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We need to keep Martin we can't risk Leuey going down again. Really don't have any back up without him unless we get Wright in the draft
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If we got Wright, I do wonder if it mighy shake free Martin. Especially if he was going to cost us heaps and we got a good offer for a trade.
Out of contract at the end of the season - we have at least found out a few things for him, us and anyone else who cares.
1. He is an elite mobile tap ruckman with excellent ball skills ( Basketball background)
2. He is rubbish as a Key Forward
Given age and our somewhat embarrassment of riches in this area we are going to have to recontract him now (I am not against this) or risk losing him for nought at the end of the year.
West was recruited to play the Forward / Relief Ruck role and he does it well. Personally I think Luey and Martin only have one position and that's first ruck with the occasional chop out, neither are key forward in any ways shape or form in my thinking. Martin has proved this time and time again - he simply has no idea where to run. Luey has more scope, but as a forward pocket, not as a leading player or battering ram.
I can't see how we would be able to keep all three happy when fit and firing, giving the development time that goes into the role and the need to cash in while you can. I have no idea what to do, so I'll trust the club can work its way through it and get a good result for us.
1. He is an elite mobile tap ruckman with excellent ball skills ( Basketball background)
2. He is rubbish as a Key Forward
Given age and our somewhat embarrassment of riches in this area we are going to have to recontract him now (I am not against this) or risk losing him for nought at the end of the year.
West was recruited to play the Forward / Relief Ruck role and he does it well. Personally I think Luey and Martin only have one position and that's first ruck with the occasional chop out, neither are key forward in any ways shape or form in my thinking. Martin has proved this time and time again - he simply has no idea where to run. Luey has more scope, but as a forward pocket, not as a leading player or battering ram.
I can't see how we would be able to keep all three happy when fit and firing, giving the development time that goes into the role and the need to cash in while you can. I have no idea what to do, so I'll trust the club can work its way through it and get a good result for us.
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Josh Clayton and Tyler Roos both invited to the combine according to this thread.
Also:
QUEENSLAND
Harris Andrews Aspley
Liam Dawson Aspley
Matt Hammelmann Morningside
Nick Jackson Aspley
Braydon Preuss Mt Gravatt
Matthew Uebergang Ipswich
Lachie Weller Broadbeach
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Noteworthy that there's not one kid zoned to GC among 'em.
Also:
QUEENSLAND
Harris Andrews Aspley
Liam Dawson Aspley
Matt Hammelmann Morningside
Nick Jackson Aspley
Braydon Preuss Mt Gravatt
Matthew Uebergang Ipswich
Lachie Weller Broadbeach
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Noteworthy that there's not one kid zoned to GC among 'em.
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chopperduck
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Didnt realise we had to nominate so early. I guess that gives other clubs a chance to suss out players who are and arent nominated.
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That is really something. We have bidding rights on seven of the 96 players attending the combine.
I mean, you'd expect QLD and NSW players to be more likely to be invited, as there's a bit of an information gap, but still that's a great position for us to be in, even with revised bidding rules.
I'd assumed there was a fair bit of disingenuousness with the focus on Heeney and the Swans, but perhaps there was more to that than we realised. Presumably there are a number of clubs out there looking at the likes of Jackson, Andrews, Uebergang, Roos and Clayton with 3rd and 4th rnd picks, who aren't keen on having us pinch them with something right at the end of the draft.
I mean, you'd expect QLD and NSW players to be more likely to be invited, as there's a bit of an information gap, but still that's a great position for us to be in, even with revised bidding rules.
I'd assumed there was a fair bit of disingenuousness with the focus on Heeney and the Swans, but perhaps there was more to that than we realised. Presumably there are a number of clubs out there looking at the likes of Jackson, Andrews, Uebergang, Roos and Clayton with 3rd and 4th rnd picks, who aren't keen on having us pinch them with something right at the end of the draft.
We need all of Leuy, Martin and West, Leuy will go down again, who knows how West will be after his knee and right now Martin is a gem and a big part of our improvement. Trade value should be good, Collingwood would definitely be looking at him but you'd want something good in return. Personally i'd keep all 3 rucks on the list. Play Martin as full time ruck (can't believe i'm saying this), Leuy or West up forward.
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Watch Eddie make a big deal about those numbers.
I bet Collingwood and Hawthorn nominated a bunch of the academy kids to validate their own argument.
I bet Collingwood and Hawthorn nominated a bunch of the academy kids to validate their own argument.
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Sure will. Even though if the academies werent around it would be probably back in single figures and the draft pool would be weaker as the northern clubs then need to draft more from the trad footy states.
It is growing the talent pool, leaving more talented Vic, SA and WA players for the rest of them. They should be happy.
It is growing the talent pool, leaving more talented Vic, SA and WA players for the rest of them. They should be happy.
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