List Mgmt. 2023 Trade Thread - Part II

[goodie23]

This is why I hate dealing with Essendon. Dodo leaks more than the Titanic.

 

[jh38]

Thoughts on taking a punt on Jacob Edwards? Just got delisted from North, he's a Sandy boy too

 

[Sun Ra]

If the Band 1 for Gresh doesn't eventuate I reckon whatever we get for him gets flicked to Freo for Henry.

 

[Saintsydney]

Thoughts on taking a punt on Jacob Edwards? Just got delisted from North, he's a Sandy boy too

They were raving about him at that mid season draft as i remember it - looks like not much happened after that ?

 

[XhazzafootyX]

Thoughts on taking a punt on Jacob Edwards? Just got delisted from North, he's a Sandy boy too

Pea heart mate. Heath four times the footballer

 

[tomjoad]

Lobb is a bit spuddy but he did lead Freo's scoring in his final year and he can actually ruck at a decent standard. He's probably the best actual ruck forward available. You would rather not pay his wage though.

He had a good year at Freo, but I've always found him a bit underwhelming when compared to the hype. Also, isn't he always moaning about not wanting to ruck?

 

[gubby88]

Thoughts on taking a punt on Jacob Edwards? Just got delisted from North, he's a Sandy boy too

Forward/ruck

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[XhazzafootyX]

They were raving about him at that mid season draft as i remember it - looks like not much happened after that ?

Lacks dedication

 

[kernelT]

If the Band 1 for Gresh doesn't eventuate I reckon whatever we get for him gets flicked to Freo for Henry.

Downgrade at this point in time.

 

[St Neil]

What if the deal is, Essendon pay overs for Gresh so we get 13. We then trade 13 for Shiel and their second which is 28 and they pay for Shiel. So we get an upgrade on the Gresh compo and get Shiel.

Out: Gresh
In: Shiel, 28

Yuck.

Shiel is worth nothing. Injury prone, 31 and on the decline. He’s almost finished, can’t train until after Christmas.

Essendon get pick 13 and Gresham. Double yuck. They ream us in that deal.

We need to get early picks. The above deal does nothing to help us with that.

We’re not just losing Gresham, but we’re taking a 15 pick downgrade for our compo. For a bloke who is almost finished and has been a serial under performer.

 

[kernelT]

FMD Lobb still, what about Schache and Jimmy Toumpas

Jimmy Toumpas

Age

30

Ht

183cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.4

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

6.7

4star

M

3.3

3star

T

2.7

4star

CL

0.8

3star

No current season stats available

D

7.0

2star

K

4.0

2star

HB

3.0

3star

M

1.8

2star

T

2.4

4star

CL

0.2

2star

?

 

[beside the seaside]

Yuck.

Shiel is worth nothing. Injury prone, 31 and on the decline. He’s almost finished, can’t train until after Christmas.

Essendon get pick 13 and Gresham. Double yuck. They ream us in that deal.

We need to get early picks. The above deal does nothing to help us with that.

We’re not just losing Gresham, but we’re taking a 15 pick downgrade for our compo. For a bloke who is almost finished and has been a serial under performer.

In the deal I said we're not paying anything for Shiel. If Gresh is getting band 3 then we are getting a small upgrade on the pick.

I'm not sure I'd do it but that's what I think the deal is. Doubt it happens.

 

[StCicatriz]

What if the deal is, Essendon pay overs for Gresh so we get 13. We then trade 13 for Shiel and their second which is 28 and they pay for Shiel. So we get an upgrade on the Gresh compo and get Shiel.

Out: Gresh
In: Shiel, 28

thats rank as ****

 

[Tommy Wigs]

In the deal I'm proposing they give us their second round pick which is better than what the second round compo would be.

But they get both Gresham and pick 13 and cap relief?

 

[St Neil]

We're losing Gresh regardless and most likely getting 32 for him.

We match and make Essendon trade pick 27 for him.

Or better yet, Gresham stays with us after we match.

 

[Tommy Wigs]

Lyon didn’t miss (in his calm and quiet way).

Chris Scott was far more expansive. He was almost incredulous that North had received even more draft handouts. I though his head was about to explode.

It was nice to see

 

[Tommy Wigs]

Thoughts on taking a punt on Jacob Edwards? Just got delisted from North, he's a Sandy boy too

Check out his VFL stats. Amazing he was getting a game for so long.

 

[kernelT]

Lyon didn’t miss (in his calm and quiet way).

Chris Scott was far more expansive. He was almost incredulous that North had received even more draft handouts. I though his head was about to explode.

I can understand why, it's the kinda thing that can absolutely **** the comp for years and we won't know until it's far too late.

Geelong should know, those father son picks they got for SFA set them up for two decades of sustained contending. Joel Selwood retiring finally marked the end of that era.

 

[SteeleSaints]

Thoughts on taking a punt on Jacob Edwards? Just got delisted from North, he's a Sandy boy too

They were raving about him as a 19yo in the mid season draft year. Is a tall skinny kid who might have found it tough playing against the bigger bodies. Perhaps we can have him train with us in the hope of a rookie position?

 

[St Neil]

In the deal I said we're not paying anything for Shiel. If Gresh is getting band 3 then we are getting a small upgrade on the pick.

I'm not sure I'd do it but that's what I think the deal is. Doubt it happens.

But Shiel is worthless. He’s almost finished. What’s the point of bringing in a 31 year old on the decline?

At best, he plays a few good games but stops younger lads from playing and developing.

Let Essendon keep their overpaid trash.

We only take-on Shiel as the price to pay for pick 13. Essendon get Gresham without having to expend any draft capital. That is their pay-off. Our compo pick is off the table.

 

[goodie23]

Thoughts on taking a punt on Jacob Edwards? Just got delisted from North, he's a Sandy boy too

North's list tell the story here. They're almost certain to lose Todd Goldstein. This leaves Tristan Xerri who only played 9 games this year after injuring his ankle round 1. After that is 25 year old rookie prospect Hamish Free (who's never played AFL level), Jacob Edwards and Callum Coleman-Jones (who has a... let's say interesting history).

With these thin ruck stocks, North had two choices - promote Edwards off the rookie list or delist. They chose to delist. That's reason enough for us to avoid.

 

[beside the seaside]

But Shiel is worthless. He’s almost finished. What’s the point of bringing in a 31 year old on the decline?

At best, he plays a few good games but stops younger lads from playing and developing.

Let Essendon keep their overpaid trash.

We only take-on Shiel as the price to pay for pick 13. Essendon get Gresham without having to expend any draft capital. That is their pay-off. Our compo pick is off the table.

Would be an amazing deal for us. Unfortunately there is no reason for Essendon to do it so it ain't happening.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

This is why I hate dealing with Essendon. Dodo leaks more than the Titanic.

He's like a colostomy bag with holes in it.

 

[tomjoad]

He would for sure but it's fools gold. Too old, too injury prone, too overpaid. He's taking a spot off a player who is going to build cohesion and synchronicity with his team mates. If we aren't going for a flag next year we would be better giving Windhager an inside mid role and playing him there.

I'd rather use Gresham's compo on a guy like Demattia and have him building up on the list than some old guy taking a precious list spot off others for a few spot upgrade on Gresham's compo. The player we get there might end up better than what we traded up to get anyway. It's a pretty even draft between about 8 and 20.

What type of sorcery is this you speak of?
Using draft picks on the draft
Quite unheard.

 

[Moorabbin Ghost]

In the deal I said we're not paying anything for Shiel. If Gresh is getting band 3 then we are getting a small upgrade on the pick.

I'm not sure I'd do it but that's what I think the deal is. Doubt it happens.

We don’t want Shiel the player, we want the pick that taking on his money gets us. Crazy how many people are confused by it.