Cyril Rioli and draft tampering?

[Silvagnis]

Rioli is a jet, yet if you consider the brass tacks, he's as effective as Ballantyne who is another forward-mid who doesn't have bad hamstrings. Both go when they have to. Meh.

Should the Hawks should be drafting the likes of Heeney, Davis and Mills who were bargains?

 

[Barry_Badrinath]

Also giving recruiters a bad vibe in interviews isn't draft tempering. You aren't going to give recruiters of a club you don't want to go to a good vibe.

Yes it is. That's exactly what draft tampering is. Intentionally tanking because you don't want to go to a certain club.

 

[Silent Alarm]

Sydney fan talks about unfair advantages. At least Cyril could've been picked up by another club – unlike the Swans and their academies that essentially work as 5-year elite training centres, paid for by someone else, with the fruits only ever belonging to them...

 

[Jaeger]

I didn't. Beatson just 2 days ago said it and a number of other recruiters at the table seemed to agree with him. That is why I brought it up now as I have heard the same thing before.

He said he gave short answers in his interview, which he still does these days.

Then he said the vision from his matches disappeared. No one else has said that.

 

[theyellowsash]

How is Sydney not having footage Cyril's fault?

because theyre used to having whatever they want just given to them?

 

[mike123]

Yes it is. That's exactly what draft tampering is. Intentionally tanking because you don't want to go to a certain club.

When a club interviews you, they want to know if you want to the club or not. Otherwise there would be no point of the interview in the first place.

 

[Kummerspeck]

Sydney fan talks about unfair advantages. At least Cyril could've been picked up by another club – unlike the Swans and their academies that essentially work as 5-year elite training centres, paid for by someone else, with the fruits only ever belonging to them...

Do you ever actually know what you're talking about? Without getting into the fact that you're the first one to mention unfair advantages, tell me everything you know about the Swans academy. You probably couldn't tell me off the top of your head the zone area, let alone how it's funded.

 

[Kummerspeck]

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Then he said the vision from his matches disappeared. No one else has said that.

For someone who believes Sydney players are getting paid 500k plus a year in ambassador payments, you sure are asking for a high level of proof.

 

[TBoyleSuperstar]

Wouldn't be the first and won't be the last.

This.

Isn't this how, in round about terms, West Coast got Darling??

A bit of mis-information, a bit of dodginess and you get the player you want.

If this is the case though, rapt

 

[Jaeger]

For someone who believes Sydney players are getting paid 500k plus a year in ambassador payments, you sure are asking for a high level of proof.

Isn't it suspect that no one knows how much the NSW ambassadors get or what they do to justify it?

 

[Rioli magic]

So what is the 'quality threshold' for answers in an interview? Whose standards do we apply to such things and who decides what is and isn't acceptable?

 

[Bunk Moreland]

I knew there had to be a reason we picked Myers

 

[Rioli magic]

...and where does Wingard fit into this?

 

[Kummerspeck]

Isn't it suspect that no one knows how much the NSW ambassadors get or what they do to justify it?

Hasn't stopped you posting hard numbers. Why you chose to lie repeatedly I'm not sure but as I said, it's a bit surprising how you're willing to do that with no evidence yet you're demanding proof here.

 

[RUNVS]

So what is the 'quality threshold' for answers in an interview? Whose standards do we apply to such things and who decides what is and isn't acceptable?

A player making an equal effort to impress in all interviews with all clubs and also giving all clubs equal access to footage of them playing.

 

[Kummerspeck]

A player making an equal effort to impress in all interviews with all clubs and also giving all clubs equal access to footage of them playing.

Equal footage maybe, how do you make someone put in a good effort with all interviewers though? Some players just wouldn't like the way interviews are going, or the people asking the question. Try going through 18 interviews and having each one at the exact same level. Throw in physical testing in between them too.

 

[DaVillaBlues]

What the Swans did with Kieran Jack is the closest thing to draft tampering the league has seen since that Brett Chalmers fiasco.

 

[Rioli magic]

A player making an equal effort to impress in all interviews with all clubs and also giving all clubs equal access to footage of them playing.

Maybe an 'effort to impress' judge could sit in on all interviews with every potential draftee?

As for the second point, it shouldn't be up to the player to compile footage of themselves and present it to clubs for their perusal, that's the clubs problem.

 

[Play by Numbers]

I think it would happen on some level regularly, although it would be harder to prove than insider trading.

Other names that could be associated with it are

Kieran Jack
Jack Darling

There were rumours about Elliot Kavanagh and Essendon a few years ago. He hasn't actually set the world on fire so I think it can also backfire just as easily for the club involved.

Nope.

Darling getting caught at the school camp and him being assaulted had nothing to do with WC.

The kid was desperate to get drafted, apparently went out of his way to contact recruiters and took scans and medical reports to the draft camp

 

[Play by Numbers]

This.

Isn't this how, in round about terms, West Coast got Darling??

A bit of mis-information, a bit of dodginess and you get the player you want.

If this is the case though, rapt

No.

Darling slid because of a number of factors, stagnating in his draft year, injury, fooling about at school and concerns over a head injury post nightclub fight.

Never wanted to go to WC, but wanted to play with his mates for GC.

Kavanaugh, Heppel and Chad are the three that come to mind. Tanking interviews, injury rumors and flat refusing to stay interstate were how the three were supposed to have behaved. Makes me wonder about Laverde

 

[mike123]

Chad Wingard didn't tank the interview, GWS asked him what he thought about moving and he said he din't want to.

 

[Kummerspeck]

No.

Yeah the Darling one is crap. The type accusing him of tanking now would probably be the ones eating up every scandal about him at the time and saying they would want their club to avoid him.

What the Swans did

Which was?

 

[cherub]

Rioli is a jet, yet if you consider the brass tacks, he's as effective as Ballantyne who is another forward-mid who doesn't have bad hamstrings. Both go when they have to. Meh.

Should the Hawks should be drafting the likes of Heeney, Davis and Mills who were bargains?

Mills hasn't been drafted. Davis went really late-4th round: lots of clubs had the opportunity to draft him. What pick did Langford go??

 

[Adelaide Hawk]

I think if the Sydney recruiters needed to see footage of Rioli when they could have just watched him play, they weren't doing their jobs properly.

As for Rioli not interviewing properly, that's just Cyril's personality. He's never the best interview at any time.

 

[Kummerspeck]

I think if the Sydney recruiters needed to see footage of Rioli when they could have just watched him play, they weren't doing their jobs properly.

The guy who makes the final call can't be everywhere, particularly if he's interstate. He can read scouting reports, but when narrowing it down, having game footage that he can look at himself would be valuable.

Assuming the no footage story is true, of course.