List Mgmt. How many list openings do we need heading in to 2015?

[The Punter]

I would think other than the five announced, TDL, Dunell and Schneider would be in the most trouble, but wouldn't have Schneider been dealt with along with Jones and Gwilt?

I also think they'll be one from left field with the club eating the last year of a contract.

 

[Persevering Saint]

TDL will walk straight into the Zebras, and be on their list next year, you'd have to think.

 

[Highlander35]

TDL could probably walk into most State league sides if he chose to do so.

 

[Jack Stevens]

Oops, I didn't realise that Dunnel was out of contract, thought he still had a year.. That could save Schneider.

I see both Dunnel and TDL as very good VFL players, just not able to make that next step.

Schneider was a player in his day, but he's past it and just looks lazy now.

 

[Curious George]

Word is that TDL has been delisted...

Saints won't announce any more delistings until Sandringhams season finishes. As some blokes that may be delisted have qualified for there finals.

 

[Curious George]

I have -
2 retires - Lenny & Maister
4 delistings - Gwilt, Jones, TDL, Dunell
2 Tradable / Delisted - Milera, Siposs (if we can get something for them)

8 draft picks
3 upgrades - Weller, Shenton & Michington
Leaves 5 draft picks
3 rookie selections (Saad hopefully one)

 

[ST_JBC]

Saints won't announce any more delistings until Sandringhams season finishes. As some blokes that may be delisted have qualified for there finals.

They won't announce it until finals are over but he has been told he is done.

 

[Persevering Saint]

No word on Schneider suggests they're keeping him on.

 

[Defacto]

No word on Schneider suggests they're keeping him on.

or as richo suggested in his presser, a couple of them are dependent on some other stuff happening

i dont think its a done deal just yet. could be as simple as how Minch goes in the VFL finals

 

[Jack Stevens]

or as richo suggested in his presser, a couple of them are dependent on some other stuff happening

i dont think its a done deal just yet. could be as simple as how Minch goes in the VFL finals

Or if Saad is fit enough

 

[Nicholas]

I think we need a minimum of 8. At least 4 of our rookies will be elevated, 3 first round picks and hopefully we can Saad in the Pre season Draft.

 

[Sunshine Saint]

Oops, I didn't realise that Dunnel was out of contract, thought he still had a year.. That could save Schneider.

I see both Dunnel and TDL as very good VFL players, just not able to make that next step.

Schneider was a player in his day, but he's past it and just looks lazy now.

Agree with Schneider comment. Also noticed on weekend his sniping of players. This is often the refuge of the old and slow and he has looked to be both over an entire game. No doubt he has footy smarts and has been sensational for the club, but he is definitely past in any on field capacity.

 

[hayes]

TDL and Dunell have been told they're no longer required.

http://stk.lt/1udKCP0

 

[joop]

I think we need a minimum of 8. At least 4 of our rookies will be elevated, 3 first round picks and hopefully we can Saad in the Pre season Draft.

Not a chance all 4 will be upgraded.

 

[Curious George]

Agree with Schneider comment. Also noticed on weekend his sniping of players. This is often the refuge of the old and slow and he has looked to be both over an entire game. No doubt he has footy smarts and has been sensational for the club, but he is definitely past in any on field capacity.

I don't think it's sniping players, I think it's more that he has higher expectations and should tell them it's not good enough, so they learn from it. That's what the older senior guys are there for. No point telling them at the break because most won't remember the contest.

 

[Curious George]

TDL and Dunell have been told they're no longer required.

http://stk.lt/1udKCP0

Bit surprised they didn't wait till sandringhams season has finished

 

[Rors]

My list changes prediction: 8 spots to be made available

Retire: Lenny Maister Schneider

Trade: Gwilt

Delist: Dunnell TDL Jones Milera

7 out of 7 so far.... Not bad

Schneider the only man left....

 

[joop]

7 out of 7 so far.... Not bad

Schneider the only man left....

Alright wise guy, what happens with pick 1?!

 

[sverik25]

So can TDL and Dunell still finish off the season with Sandy or not?

 

[Sunshine Saint]

I don't think it's sniping players, I think it's more that he has higher expectations and should tell them it's not good enough, so they learn from it. That's what the older senior guys are there for. No point telling them at the break because most won't remember the contest.

Sorry Curious for being unclear earlier. I meant his sniping of opposition players. He seemed to be colliding with, or dragging players providing a shepherd, or looking for cheap shots on players. I wouldn't be surprised if he is disappointed in himself, as he appeared to be frustrated and taking out his lack of physical skills with unnecessary aggression towards opposition players. He needs to retire while he still has his great reputation and can retire with his head held high with the career that he has had.

 

[Rors]

So can TDL and Dunell still finish off the season with Sandy or not?

Of course, technically their current contract doesn't expire until the end of October I think

 

[Rors]

Sorry Curious for being unclear earlier. I meant his sniping of opposition players. He seemed to be colliding with, or dragging players providing a shepherd, or looking for cheap shots on players. I wouldn't be surprised if he is disappointed in himself, as he appeared to be frustrated and taking out his lack of physical skills with unnecessary aggression towards opposition players. He needs to retire while he still has his great reputation and can retire with his head held high with the career that he has had.

Schneider should retire. He's just not doing enough to even warrant a spot in the best 22 at the moment. At the start of next season, he'll be another 7 months older & I have big doubts on whether his body could cope with another preseason, let alone another AFL season in general. His efforts have been poor in this 2nd half of the year, none more so than the numerous times he could have put his body over the ball, but instead chose a shitty little toe poke or kick off the ground. Unfortunately, the game has last him.

To be honest, I'd be seriously disappointed if he gets another contract, while a guy like Clint Jones who busts his ass every single week & never ever takes a soft option doesn't get one.

In my opinion, Jones shows more leadership than Schneider does

 

[sammm]

Bit surprised they didn't wait till sandringhams season has finished

they probably can't due to giving players 8 weeks off. most clubs are doing the main delistings within the first few days before the guys go on holidays.

 

[sammm]

Of course, technically their current contract doesn't expire until the end of October I think

yes, your correct.

 

[Sir Skid]

ST KILDA has delisted forward Trent Dennis-Lane and midfielder Sam Dunell as it prepares for what shapes as an active trade and draft period.

Six players have now departed the Saints after the retirements of Lenny Hayes and Beau Maister and the delisting of James Gwilt and Clint Jones.

Terry Milera has also requested a trade to South Australia, potentially taking that number to seven.
http://m.afl.com.au/news/2014-09-02/saints-duo-shown-door