North melbourne 'lose' Ballarat zone

[mike123]

Are North Melbourne getting compensation?

 

[Albert Ross]

You don't get to call dibs on entire districts. North still have their alliance with North Ballarat, all that is happened is that they didn't get to choose where their community camp was (just the same way no one else does) and had their NAB Cup game schedule handed to them (just like everyone else does).

 

[masai]

AFL clubs have zones ?!!!!!!.

News to me.

 

[MaddAdam]

This is actually a story about how rooted the Dogs are. Second line is that we are actually doing OK.

The Dogs simply DO NOT "own" the West. Their membership numbers are pitiful.

 

[ManOfClay]

This is actually a story about how rooted the Dogs are. Second line is that we are actually doing OK..

If you want it to be interpreted that way, sure. I read it more as we've decided to broker a deal with Ballarat seeing as North are two-timing, and the AFL has endorsed it as it's an easy way to eventually relocate the Roos like they've always wanted.

At least now you won't be removed from Eureka Stadium for public exposure again

 

[MaddAdam]

Thanks for keeping the seat warm north, but we've got this now.

Heaven forfend you'd ever come up with an original idea or do any hard work or anything.

Such a nothing club.

 

[ManOfClay]

Keep going sweety. Looks like this has got under your skin.

http://www.thecourier.com.au/story/...bulldogs-tight-lipped-on-new-agreement/?cs=71

Looks like in this article we've muscled in and the city has cut North loose. But the AFL is alright with that because they want the Roos in Tassie anyway.

 

[MaddAdam]

That's bollocks.
North are free to use the AFL funding payment anyway they want to.
Brisbane are currently getting equalisation payments from the AFL to service their debt.

No, all payments are very strictly linked to certain areas/outcomes and it is closely monitored by the AFL.

 

[MaddAdam]

Keep going sweety. Looks like this has got under your skin.

http://www.thecourier.com.au/story/...bulldogs-tight-lipped-on-new-agreement/?cs=71

Looks like in this article we've muscled in and the city has cut North loose. But the AFL is alright with that because they want the Roos in Tassie anyway.

"Muscled in". Christ.

You've been thrown our second choice because you're hopeless on and off field.

I must admit it does s**t me. Of all the clubs that get large AFL payments, only North ever does anything to try and help ourselves out of it. The rest of youn losers who haven't won a flag in a combined total of 150 million years (Dogs, St Kilda, Dees) just sit around whinging and making imbecelic decision after decision.

Then s**t like happens. Its mind boggling.

 

[SugarCoat]

No, all payments are very strictly linked to certain areas/outcomes and it is closely monitored by the AFL.

The AFL allow dividend funds to be used to service debt. That is occurring in Brisbane right now.
We get a dividend from the AFL and there has been no restriction placed on it to service our building debt.
When North had ARocca leave, the AFL paid for and helped conduct the search for your next CEO.

 

[MaddAdam]

The long term plan for the AFL is to relocate North to Tassie, it's pretty obvious.

No, it isn't. The more immediate plan is to try and save the sinking ship that is the Dogs.

 

[ManOfClay]

"Muscled in". Christ.

You've been thrown our second choice because you're hopeless on and off field..

First line of the article

"THE AFL has backed the Western Bulldogs' new agreement with the City of Ballarat, as the club looks to establish a foothold in the city."

We haven't been thrown anything. We took it. Not our fault if the City of Ballarat doesn't want to associate itself with a team happy to whore it's way to Tasmania.

Keep trying to push doom on us. The story is about how we've just secured a key foothold in Western Victoria at the expense of North.

How many games will you get to when North are permanently in Tasmania?

 

[ManOfClay]

No, it isn't. The more immediate plan is to try and save the sinking ship that is the Dogs.

This isn't the AFL's plan sweety, it's ours.


We've trumped you.

 

[The Swans Blog]

North are just too late to the party every time. Apart from Friday night games, have they ever been innovative?

 

[cammo78]

Pretty clear message here from the AFL that you innovate at your own risk.

I think the real message to North is to stop having a bit each way and dropping stakeholders like a hot potato as soon as something a little more appealing comes-a-knocking.

 

[Impunity!]

No, it isn't. The more immediate plan is to try and save the sinking ship that is the Dogs.

Sinking ship?

When two of BigFooty's most prominent NMFC members are me and Sooz, maybe NMFC has bigger problems than Ballarat and, dare I say, the Dogs.

I mean at least I attend NMFC games.

 

[Bunk Moreland]

No, it isn't. The more immediate plan is to try and save the sinking ship that is the Dogs.

It is. You'll be playing 6-7 home games in Tassie, I reckon within 5 years, and a full relocation will happen within 20 years.

The AFL have already shown their hand on this. They always get what they want, eventually.

Agree the Dogs are a shemozzle, they always have been. All this talk of "winning" areas and zones is meaningless unless you're actually playing games there. That's why the Dogs will never "own" the western suburbs, theyre just another Melbourne club that plays in the CBD.

The best option at the moment is Tassie because you can actually play games there and that gives you the ability to build a following.

If that happens in Ballarat down the track then maybe (personally I don't see it in the foreseeable future), but Norths foothold by then will be Tassie. Hence this move.

 

[carloss]

North are just too late to the party every time. Apart from Friday night games, have they ever been innovative?

Elephant at Arden Street?

 

[White Krakouer]

North are just too late to the party every time. Apart from Friday night games, have they ever been innovative?

North were the first club to introduce:

Club memberships
Jumper sponsorships
League fixtures
Club songs
Separate pre-season jumpers
Clash jumpers
Corporate Entertainment
Pre-match entertainment
Coterie Memberships
Social Clubs
Grand Final Breakfasts
Double header Football
Footy flags
Cheersquads
Friday Night Football

In 1998 we were the first club to play home games interstate, which has been copied by Hawthorn, Richmond, Carlton, St Kilda, Melbourne and the Western Bulldogs.
In the early 1970's, we were the first club to try and convert an athlete from another sport (Wee Willie Anderson).

Things North didn't introduce:

COLA
Salary cap tampering
Performance Enhancing Drugs
Tanking

 

[ManOfClay]

Despite us apparently being a "shemozzle" we've made a good business deal here (bad luck North), salvaged a disastrous trade period by securing a potential high value asset in Boyd while also securing a player in Biggs who was also being chased by Essendon and Carlton.

We've also managed to get rid of some overpaid players in Cooney and Higgins, which allow us to maneouvre our salary cap well to be placed to secure more talent in coming seasons.

There might not be games in Ballarat yet but I'd rather have a deal which benefits us rather than sit around and have nothing.

The Griffen/McCartney disaster could be the catalyst on-field, while deals like this show we're building nicely off it. Secured our own VFL team and games at the Whitten Oval. Soon Edgewater will be complete too.


It's easy to call us a shemozzle based on history, and on the current coach and captain situation, but we're actually in a lot better place off-field than some clubs. Particularly Essendon so it's weird a Bombers supporter is so willing to stick the boots in

 

[GroggSquad]

Despite us apparently being a "shemozzle" we've made a good business deal here (bad luck North), salvaged a disastrous trade period by securing a potential high value asset in Boyd while also securing a player in Biggs who was also being chased by Essendon and Carlton.

We've also managed to get rid of some overpaid players in Cooney and Higgins, which allow us to maneouvre our salary cap well to be placed to secure more talent in coming seasons.

There might not be games in Ballarat yet but I'd rather have a deal which benefits us rather than sit around and have nothing.

The Griffen/McCartney disaster could be the catalyst on-field, while deals like this show we're building nicely off it. Secured our own VFL team and games at the Whitten Oval. Soon Edgewater will be complete too.


It's easy to call us a shemozzle based on history, and on the current coach and captain situation, but we're actually in a lot better place off-field than some clubs. Particularly Essendon so it's weird a Bombers supporter is so willing to stick the boots in

You're rebuilding, but don't have a draft pick until the second round

 

[ManOfClay]

You're rebuilding, but don't have a draft pick until the second round

And? We've already brought in a kid who managed to get games in Sydney's finals side recently and a kid with one season experience who would still be a clear #1 in this draft according to respected draft watchers like Knightmare

This thread isn't about the Dogs' position though. It's about us undercutting North in a great business deal.

 

[telsor]

reading this thread is like watching 2 flies fight over a piece of s**t.

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

North are just too late to the party every time. Apart from Friday night games, have they ever been innovative?

With the media in the rooms and pushing for footy on Easter Friday. Plus lol north apparently.

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

Elephant at Arden Street?

They still haven't caught the bastard or built the cafe yet.