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Rather take the risk on a guy like Knevitt who looked good in the seniors earlier this year and continued to put in the work after returning to the VFLLots of players dont play that well at vfl level ( ask Steve Johnson ) take a risk and get something out of it
Lots of players dont play that well at vfl level ( ask Steve Johnson ) take a risk and get something out of it
Beyond ignorant statement.Have you seen the inconsistency of our mids? Not gonna hurt us anymore than it is now
Beyond ignorant statement.
If we're getting beaten in there despite the still good-to very good players in there, how's it going to go when you throw a guy in who can't even reach decent numbers at VFL level? At 25 years of age?
I don't want to be harsh as he seems like a ripping fella, but it just doesn't make sense for us.
Whether we're trying to win the flag, or looking to the future, Knevitt fits the bill better on both fronts than Hardie.
You'd be surprised. Knevitt is well ahead of himHave you seen the inconsistency of our mids? Not gonna hurt us anymore than it is now
What were the better available options?Two goes at this now... and we efforts seem lacking in comparison to others.
Is Mitch signed for 2024?
I think we should give him a preseason. He does seem to have a bit of nous hitting up f50Hardie is gonna go from Megarey Medal shot halfway through the year to being a "meh" player in the VFL... and then delisted after 6 months.
Oh well, we gave him a shot and he hasn't grabbed it.
Not a fan of the mid year trade period.
They might... If it goes down that way hopefully he steps it up.I think we should give him a preseason. He does seem to have a bit of nous hitting up f50
It didn't need hindsight as a few of us were saying before the mid season draft that we were a Blics injury away from even worse ruck issues. But we do have Stanley at least.With Blitz injued, Ceglar conked out, Conway not quite ready, and Neale not yet match fit then with the benefit of 20/20 hindsight we should have gone for Naismith after all.
It didn't need hindsight as a few of us were saying before the mid season draft that we were a Blics injury away from even worse ruck issues. But we do have Stanley at least.
What were the better available options?
Maybe my expectations on the mid season draft mechanism are more tempered. I don’t really expect it to deliver much value to the competing teams. I see it more as a “last chance saloon” for the overlooked draft nominees and insurance for clubs to top up in areas of need.Its a fair question. My preference was to look at a 19 year old that had been missed in the draft in 22 and would probably be drafted in 23 and treat it like a normal draft pick. I cant see how it would have hurt to have a look at a ruck like Flynn Reily a big 19 year old and there is 19 year old kid who athletically is out of this world Rye Penny. Now no one else picked these guys either ..so im not say its easy ...
Id say we have missed the mark somehow when Haw are playing their second pick, taken after us in Brandon Ryan and he was was a local at some stage. and we have players like Christie etc playing VFL that are not listed.
If we are going to bring in a 25 year old from another state , Im hoping for an immediate impact.
For sure... Mid year trade will be 100x better than the lame mid-year draft.Maybe my expectations on the mid season draft mechanism are more tempered. I don’t really expect it to deliver much value to the competing teams. I see it more as a “last chance saloon” for the overlooked draft nominees and insurance for clubs to top up in areas of need.
Now a mid season trade period… that would be ripe for instant impact (as well as introducing all sorts of other issues). Can you imagine us getting to offload Ratugolea or Parfitt to position ourselves for a ready mid mid?
Exactly. I said at the time of the mid season draft that we had weaknesses in midfield and ruck due to injuries, but that we were not going to find an inside mid of the required AFL standard, but Naismith could play a role if Stanley didn't recover and if Blics got injured, bearing in mind everyone was saying Ceglar was cooked. And Neale and Conway were still out injured.Yeah, but I'm not sold on any of JHenry, De Koning, or Ratugolea playing as backup ruck.
Maybe my expectations on the mid season draft mechanism are more tempered. I don’t really expect it to deliver much value to the competing teams. I see it more as a “last chance saloon” for the overlooked draft nominees and insurance for clubs to top up in areas of need.
Now a mid season trade period… that would be ripe for instant impact (as well as introducing all sorts of other issues). Can you imagine us getting to offload Ratugolea or Parfitt to position ourselves for a ready made mid?
From the mid season draft? I can’t think of any established players who came via that route. I’m sure I’m missing a few.There is an elements of that. I think there are numerous examples of being able to find a player similar to how we found Stewart and Menegola. There owuld be several players that have gone on to be regulars in sides best group.
From the mid season draft? I can’t think of any established players who came via that route. I’m sure I’m missing a few.
EDIT: Eyeballing the list I see Newcombe, Ash Johnson, Ryan Gardner, Will Snelling, James Peatling, Sam Durham, Marlion Pickett, John Noble as AFL regulars. Almost all mature types who have taken their second chance. Seems that’s what Geelong was trying to get with last year’s bloke and Hardie.
If you sent me back to the mid season with everything I know now I can't say a traded in elite mid would be a bad ideaThere is an elements of that. I think there are numerous examples of being able to find a player similar to how we found Stewart and Menegola. There owuld be several players that have gone on to be regulars in sides best group.
I also agree that a mid season trade period will have punch. I could also see it as more dangerous. For example , god back to when we were mid season. World we have traded our future picks for that ready made mid. The chance to access a player not getting a game or to access the free agent that is going to move half a season earlier. Like it or not it will be something we have to acclimatise to..as I think its coming.