Fantasy Dynasty League 2008 - Discussion

[Dagless]

Re: Beta Dynasty - DISCUSSION

GG: Me and Sleepy have just completed a massive trade deal. Sleepy will confirm this.

Steve Smith, Hines Ward, Sleepy's Rd 29, Sleepy's Rd 30, Sleepy's FIRST ROUND Selection Next Year

for

Brandon Marshall


Only deal i'll be doing for a while as its the only time i'll have in a while.

Wow... Seems a LITTLE lopsided...

 

[juddy_Like]

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A TRADE HAS BEEN MADE.

Juddys JackHammer's receives Steve Smith, Hines Ward, my 29th+30th round picks (#339 & 358) and my first round pick in next years Draft, while i acquire Brandon Marshall.

Confirmed

 

[Dagless]

Re: Beta Dynasty - DISCUSSION

One of these days Im gonna hand out Bruce and Gabriel to deadline-breakers.
And Im still ticked off with Larkis' QB-gate scandal at the start of the draft.
Im still looking to punish him with perhaps a Bruce for one of his QBs.

So when was Jem's last ACTUAL pick? As in one he made himself? (She?)

 

[exe ex machina]

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confirmed

no...im Rejecting The Trade....sorry That Trade Is Nonsense

 

[exe ex machina]

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So when was Jem's last ACTUAL pick? As in one he made himself? (She?)

Around round 3-4. i think. I cant ####ing remember anymore. But Jem has got to log in and take care of his baby.

 

[crowman_23]

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That trade is ridiculous. lol

 

[Dagless]

Re: Beta Dynasty - DISCUSSION

Around round 3-4. i think. I cant ####ing remember anymore. But Jem has got to log in and take care of his baby.

Thats fair pathetic... As far as I know though, her last post was on July 7th... ie Yesterday pretty much...
The funny thing is Jem came into apologise which is great.. But Jem still hasn't come on after despite not saying it wouldn't be okay... So Jem must be OK with your picks

 

[exe ex machina]

Re: Beta Dynasty - DISCUSSION

Thats fair pathetic... As far as I know though, her last post was on July 7th... ie Yesterday pretty much...
The funny thing is Jem came into apologise which is great.. But Jem still hasn't come on after despite not saying it wouldn't be okay... So Jem must be OK with your picks

Well, all the picks I made for Jem ARE the picks they wanted. But it's getting to the end of the list and Jem may want to pop in and re-evaluate what they want to do next, etc.

I mean, i'm just covering myself in case Jem gets angry with me.

 

[sleepy]

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gg - Im actually not being a smartass when i say this but was the trade structure outlined previously? I actually mean that 'cause me and juddy both didnt think there were guidelines to the trade.

Also.. he offered me a trade and we went back and fourth to that agreement.. So if i was fine with it, even though it was lopsided, what does it matter? (Yet again, another serious question).

 

[exe ex machina]

Re: Beta Dynasty - DISCUSSION

gg - Im actually not being a smartass when i say this but was the trade structure outlined previously? I actually mean that 'cause me and juddy both didnt think there were guidelines to the trade.

Also.. he offered me a trade and we went back and fourth to that agreement.. So if i was fine with it, even though it was lopsided, what does it matter? (Yet again, another serious question).

I dont give a rat's if you both like the trade, it's NONSENSE. And it wont pass. Now or during the season when the 9/12 vote needs to pass any trade offers made.

Also, Ryan Torain is already taken, and I dont wanna say CNTRL+F to you anymore the rest of the draft. Take more diligence in making your picks. It only takes 5 secs to search for someone to make sure they're not taken before making the pick.

 

[Southerntakeover]

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gg - Im actually not being a smartass when i say this but was the trade structure outlined previously? I actually mean that 'cause me and juddy both didnt think there were guidelines to the trade.

Also.. he offered me a trade and we went back and fourth to that agreement.. So if i was fine with it, even though it was lopsided, what does it matter? (Yet again, another serious question).

No serious fantasy league allows unmonitored trading.

Thats what the GM is there for, to prevent either collusion, or just vastly uneven drafting.

That trade is ridiculous btw.

 

[crowman_23]

Re: Beta Dynasty - DISCUSSION

gg - Im actually not being a smartass when i say this but was the trade structure outlined previously? I actually mean that 'cause me and juddy both didnt think there were guidelines to the trade.

Also.. he offered me a trade and we went back and fourth to that agreement.. So if i was fine with it, even though it was lopsided, what does it matter? (Yet again, another serious question).

Juddy must be an awesome negotiator.

 

[Dagless]

Re: Beta Dynasty - DISCUSSION

gg - Im actually not being a smartass when i say this but was the trade structure outlined previously? I actually mean that 'cause me and juddy both didnt think there were guidelines to the trade.

Also.. he offered me a trade and we went back and fourth to that agreement.. So if i was fine with it, even though it was lopsided, what does it matter? (Yet again, another serious question).

Well we did say there would be a vote/veto process if too many people disagree with it...

But seriously WHY would you want this trade? WRs last til their 30s... Smith has huge potential as a receiver for Eli, Ward is a consistent WR threat, pick 29 and 30 could be potential future superstars... If the trade went through and you came last, JL gets your first waiver pick, happens to be an awesome draft player you would love. Again you screwed yourself...

 

[Southerntakeover]

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Well we did say there would be a vote/veto process if too many people disagree with it...

But seriously WHY would you want this trade? WRs last til their 30s... Smith is a top 5 WR who is only 26, Ward is a consistent WR threat, pick 29 and 30 could be potential future superstars... If the trade went through and you came last, JL gets your first waiver pick, happens to be an awesome draft player you would love. Again you screwed yourself...

This pick is so lopsided it isn't even funny. Marshall COULD be great... But will be behind Smith for a few years still...

That you even have to explain whats wrong with it...

wow.

 

[sleepy]

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I didnt know trades had to be run through by the rest of the league - my bad. Veto or whatever its called the trade, ill no better next time.. As i asked was there anything for me to read up on this to know before we discussed the trade?

Zarko - It was the Giants Steve Smith, not the Carolina Steve Smith.

 

[exe ex machina]

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Sleepy....

1. A trade HAS TO be fair, not lopsided.
2. Your LEAGUE-COMRADES are the ones who decide if a trade is ok or not....NOT you and Juddy. It's THEIR 9/12 vote that determines if any trade happens or not.
3. All trades MUST pass this scrutiny of fairness, otherwise they WILL get rejected.
4. You as commish have to ensure these types of trades DONT occur. As a commish you should already know that that trade is nonsense as a trade per se.
5. Dont make trades for future draft picks....because we havent even started the season, havent even installed the ESPN system yet to handle future draft pick trading.
5b. Ie, WAIT till the draft is over and the league is installed, before making any trades for future draft picks.

 

[Dagless]

Re: Beta Dynasty - DISCUSSION

I didnt know trades had to be run through by the rest of the league - my bad. Veto or whatever its called the trade, ill no better next time.. As i asked was there anything for me to read up on this to know before we discussed the trade?

Zarko - It was the Giants Steve Smith, not the Carolina Steve Smith.

Well thats a little better But still rediculous...

Will just shrink into the shadows now...

Smith = gun though

 

[Dagless]

Re: Beta Dynasty - DISCUSSION

That you even have to explain whats wrong with it...

wow.

Just in case my friend.... Just in case...

 

[sleepy]

Re: Beta Dynasty - DISCUSSION

Well thats a little better But still rediculous...

Will just shrink into the shadows now...

Smith = gun though

I know it was a ridiculous trade. But i was happy with it. Out of next years draft, looking at who's likely to come out, there's no-one that interests me greatly that i would use my first round pick. Im trying to build my team young as possible, and i liked the idea of having Marshall next to Calvin Johnson as my recievers. There's not too much out there left that i can draft that interests me too much either.. All factors why i made the trade.

 

[Dagless]

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I know it was a ridiculous trade. But i was happy with it. Out of next years draft, looking at who's likely to come out, there's no-one that interests me greatly that i would use my first round pick. Im trying to build my team young as possible, and i liked the idea of having Marshall next to Calvin Johnson as my recievers. There's not too much out there left that i can draft that interests me too much either.. All factors why i made the trade.

Its rediculous to judge the 2009 draft class at the moment... Hard to believe that is one of the reasons...

Steve Smith is 23 and showed a lot late in the year...

Hard to believe there isn't many more players you want

Personally I wish the roster was 46 long and we got to keep 40 ... But I guess thats just me

Anyway thats just my opinion, not trying to offend or anything...
If you were happy thats cool, but its hardly in the interest of fairness to the entire league...

 

[exe ex machina]

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Yeah, look, sorry to get all heavy-handed with you Sleepy. Not angry with you. Just plz understand that all trades must be fair. It's NOT about whether someone wants a trade, or likes a trade, no matter how unfair/lopsided. It's about how FAIR the trade is.

That trade is not fair. So "no".

Also, what do you mean there's no one else that interests you right now to draft?? You've got a 40 man roster to fill out. So regardless whether you like anyone or not, you're gonna have to draft 34 this draft and pick up 6 during the waiver period. Find people to fill positions.

You've only got 3 RBs. You have maximum 8. you'll need all 8 too because this is a dynasty league. Where you need to have back-ups galore in every position.

And I can name you 20 players from 2009 draft class that are hot property.

 

[Dagless]

Re: Beta Dynasty - DISCUSSION

Heck 20 from the RB position alone...

Not to mention James Davis who was going to apply this year and would have gotten drafted well enough, but decided for one more year

 

[dspeed]

Re: Beta Dynasty - DRAFT

no...im Rejecting The Trade....sorry That Trade Is Nonsense

What? If i were in this league i would not veto, no collusion evident, why would they collude, both guys want it, let it through, jeez

 

[sleepy]

Re: Beta Dynasty - DISCUSSION

Trust me, i actually like smith - I think by the end of this year he'll be the #2 reciever in NY.. But the immediate upside and long term potential for Marshall is what enticed me. People saying that the 29th and 30th could be fantasy superstars - They could. But you know what? Brady could go down first game this year and Matt Cassell could have to play 15 games.. What about those poor bastards that used there picks in round 1 and 2 on them? LT could go down 4 games in and you get 12 games of Jacob Hester.. Lets see how Rivers goes against one of the leagues hardest schedules against the pass without him.. I understand where everyone is coming from, so dw no offense taken, i know it's just a personal opinion, but anything can happen, and personally i liked what i was doing.. But oh well.

So the trade is off? Fair enough, i honestly didnt mean it to be in the worst interests of the league. I'll know for next time.

 

[exe ex machina]

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What? If i were in this league i would not veto, no collusion evident, why would they collude, both guys want it, let it through, jeez

Ok, you be the 1/12 who votes yes.