Knightwheelrqr 2010 Mock Draft

[No1Suspect]

2 mids for the blues?

Like caddy, but i think we'll try and trade for a low pick to secure and earlier KPP then caddy...

 

[knightwheelrqr]

Smith looks like a handy sort. hows his kicking/decision making. Cant tell much as most of his kicks are scrambled out of packs(perfect for dons).

Really good fit for the Dons. I agree. But still no certainty he will be available.

I'd certainly recommend him over Parker/ Caddy/ Hallahan who would all be on Essendon's radar with that 1st rounder because he does have that explosiveness which would add a bit more bite to your midfield.

His kicking is solid. He isn't the silky type but still more than good enough. Once he adds some more size which he will he could be a very hard player to stop.

He has spent some time in defence and isn't just an inside mid but I do project him to play as an inside mid at AFL level.

 

[Chris25]

Good effort. Always hard doing longer drafts before the draft camp, and no doubt it will change a fair bit. Some interesting names towards the end of the draft, a few more 'mature aged' players then I think will get picked in the national draft though.

I've mentioned in my draft that I think Watson and Smith will last a bit longer than most seem to expect. For all the Smith/Judd talk, I see more of Rhys Palmer in Smith. Not that being compared to Palmer is a bad thing....

Barden, Dalhaus, Butcher and Gray are a few of the earlier picks that I see as being more likely rookie selections for mine. While I think you may have put too much emphasis on interstate teams drafting within their home state.

From a Fremantle perspective, I couldn't be happier with McCarthy in the first round (definite top 10 for me). Given our needs (genuine midfielders) it would be too early for Elisseou and Yu in my opinion who are more that 'in between' type player. I'd rather wait and look at them in the rookie draft. And I can't see us taking Krakouer.

 

[knightwheelrqr]

2 mids for the blues?

Like caddy, but i think we'll try and trade for a low pick to secure and earlier KPP then caddy...

Up until recently I had you taking Jacobs and I think I will probably change that one back (not a KPP). If Cook drops I think you will snap him up, otherwise Tom Lynch I think is another KPF who might move into considerations and I'm almost suspecting you might take him. Very athletic and has high upside. Think he might be a bolter.

Your midfield if you can make Gibbs into a better inside mid should be strong, but I just have this feeling that Carlton will continue their aweful trend of going best available even when KPPs should be priority 1.

In later additions though I will add probably x1 KPF + x1 KPD to the Carlton draft at some stage because I do think it is more than likely.

 

[knightwheelrqr]

Good effort. Always hard doing longer drafts before the draft camp, and no doubt it will change a fair bit. Some interesting names towards the end of the draft, a few more 'mature aged' players then I think will get picked in the national draft though.

I've mentioned in my draft that I think Watson and Smith will last a bit longer than most seem to expect. For all the Smith/Judd talk, I see more of Rhys Palmer in Smith. Not that being compared to Palmer is a bad thing....

Barden, Dalhaus, Butcher and Gray are a few of the earlier picks that I see as being more likely rookie selections for mine. While I think you may have put too much emphasis on interstate teams drafting within their home state.

From a Fremantle perspective, I couldn't be happier with McCarthy in the first round (definite top 10 for me). Given our needs (genuine midfielders) it would be too early for Elisseou and Yu in my opinion who are more that 'in between' type player. I'd rather wait and look at them in the rookie draft. And I can't see us taking Krakouer.

Watson I like because he is just so ready. With his size reminds me a little of Michael Hurley.

Smith I know there are quite a mix of views on and I know a few who insist he is a 2nd rounder. I rate his skills ahead of Palmer, but otherwise possibly a similar game. I view him more in style as a Judd because once he does add some more size he could have the same sort of size and explosiveness. He won't be as good as Judd, but just I see him being able to do the same types of things.

On the mature age guys I do think quite a number will be taken. Barlow, J-Pod and others have had great success over the past few years and I do think the number taken could almost double on last years numbers between both drafts because there seems in the footballing community to be a much greater recognition that these players if given the chance can be good enough to play at AFL level. The names I listed I do think will go either ND/RD.

Many of the names (really after 60) are all more likely to be rookie selections anyway. This draft was more so to get a few names out there to give a general idea where they could sit.

Krakour I think he will be taken in one of the drafts. Fremantle, hard to say how serious they would be. West Coast is a more likely destination considering their needs but he is an interesting one I wanted to add to this list because his form is good enough for a position on a list.

I noticed from reading your draft that you do rate McCarthy very highly. With McCarthy while he does show good leadership, have great skills for someone his size and shows good athleticism. My primary concern with him is that he will develop into an oversized back flanker in the Grant Birchall mold. I know he doesn't have the size now but he doesn't look like a KPD. My best case scenario is that he turns into something like Collingwood's Ben Reid and I hope he does. But I'm not 100% sold just yet and think he will be more 10-30 range.

 

[folester41]

cant see us taking two talls with our first two picks, and i hope we dont.

i think we should have learnt not to take a ruckmen with a top 10 pick, and we should go for a midfielder.

with our second, third and fourth rounder id like a ruckmen, KPD and half foward/midfielder.

 

[No1Suspect]

Up until recently I had you taking Jacobs and I think I will probably change that one back (not a KPP). If Cook drops I think you will snap him up, otherwise Tom Lynch I think is another KPF who might move into considerations and I'm almost suspecting you might take him. Very athletic and has high upside. Think he might be a bolter.

Your midfield if you can make Gibbs into a better inside mid should be strong, but I just have this feeling that Carlton will continue their aweful trend of going best available even when KPPs should be priority 1.

In later additions though I will add probably x1 KPF + x1 KPD to the Carlton draft at some stage because I do think it is more than likely.

I have the same feeling which worries me... as i said i think it all depends on how big of a bite we get on a trade out with jacobs and how low it is.... but i have no doubt our first pick will be best available.... again.

As for gibbs i really think carlton are in limbo with him.. i'd love him in the middle as would the blues, but we haven't got anyone who can distribute the ball out of the backline like he can.. so for the time being i think gibbs is stuck!

 

[No1Suspect]

cant see us taking two talls with our first two picks, and i hope we dont.

i think we should have learnt not to take a ruckmen with a top 10 pick, and we should go for a midfielder.

with our second, third and fourth rounder id like a ruckmen, KPD and half foward/midfielder.

we'll give you jacobs and grigg for your first round pick.. and we'll throw in john elliot as a sweetner?

 

[knightwheelrqr]

cant see us taking two talls with our first two picks, and i hope we dont.

i think we should have learnt not to take a ruckmen with a top 10 pick, and we should go for a midfielder.

with our second, third and fourth rounder id like a ruckmen, KPD and half foward/midfielder.

This would be my approach anyway. Lycett as a ruckman is a gem. And when there is a good ruckman available it is always good to take one. Many ruckman take 3-5 years to develop. Lycett I have as being a 3rd year ready to go. Very athletic and I can see him building out into a fairly powerful unit. Since Troy Simmonds has retired I do think adding a quality ruckman would have to be amongst the priorities.

The best ruckman come usually in the top 10 or through the rookie draft but you can never know what is going to happen in the rookie draft so I would pounce early rather than later.

In terms of KPD's I think you are pretty settled and have enough comming through. Might be looked at late/ rookie, but I wouldn't think it would be a priority. Astbury will develop and will be fine.

The first two rounds I see talls being the way to go with probably ruckman then KPF and then with other mids/ forwards later on. Hardwick I think will take this approach because he always preaches on about how he wants Richmond to build up in the way Hawthorn did by valuing talls before smalls and building around a strong core group of talls. I'd almost be surprised if he didn't from what i've been hearing.

 

[guruisatiger]

Yeah not much to seperate many of the picks. Could pretty easily name 20 guys who could be taken at 4. But I feel pretty strongly about Gaff. Have great faith in him developing into a quality player and leader.



Smedts I think could be a nice fit for Adelaide. Has played primarily as a forward but during the champs did well when swung into defence. Really strikes me as a really special player.

I think Richmond will make adding another quality KPF with one of your first two selections a priority but I will fix the draft more so needs wise when the draft order is in place. Really just giving people a general feel of where players might rank.

My suspicion for Richmond is that you go KPF in the 2nd round because I have a few quality options being available there with: Barden, Lynch, Mitchell, Solly or some combination of these are likely to be available. 1st round I wouldn't be surprised to see Darling drop and instead going with another pick. Lycett would almost be my recommendation for Richmond to be honest and Hardwick is of the belief that a club should be built through a tall first approach I wouldn't be surprised to see this. If Richmond finish lower than Brisbane then however one of Gorringe, Gaff or Atley (depending on who is available) will be taken.

richmond desperatley need more mids and that will be our priority especially with first pick which should be pick 6 ..

 

[knightwheelrqr]

richmond desperatley need more mids and that will be our priority especially with first pick which should be pick 6 ..

I think it has been more so because Foley has been missed this season. Richmond might take a look at Myles Sewell later on in the draft and he would add a whole heap immediately. If you finish below Brisbane (which is looking increasingly likely) then you will probably take Gaff/ Atley/ Gorringe depending on who is available. All of which are very good gets. Will adjust your ladder position at a later date.

 

[dajesmac]

Assuming West Coast lose today, you've overlooked the fact we will get a PP at #26.

Other than that, good draft for West Coast even without the PP. I'd prefer Atley over Gaff but would happy if we ended up getting Gaff, Conca, Mzungu and Ninyette.

 

[knightwheelrqr]

Assuming West Coast lose today, you've overlooked the fact we will get a PP at #26.

Other than that, good draft for West Coast even without the PP. I'd prefer Atley over Gaff but would happy if we ended up getting Gaff, Conca, Mzungu and Ninyette.

Yes I realise. Will update after ladder is sorted.

Gaff is just my preference of the pair but both project to be outstanding pros. Gaff has an outstanding work ethic and I expect he one day will captain or be in the leadership group of whichever club selects him.

Have a fair idea which WAFL players are on the radar of clubs and they all seem pretty nice fits into your side. Since it has been said that WC are looking to become a stronger team quickly I think a few of these WAFL boys will be high on their list, particularly after the success both you and Fremantle have been having. I think WC might also look at a ruckman at some stage but otherwise I don't think many of these players will be far off.

 

[TigerTime88]

Good effort.

I think you may have misread Hardwick under the current situation. He stated earlier in the year he wanted to add another quality mid. Thus I think we will go there with pick 6. Atley or Gaff and if they are gone then Smith. We have Gus and Vickery as rucks and I would prefer to grab 2 more 1 late in the ND and another development ruck in the rookie draft.

I agree with what you said on Foley but I would still try and add depth as midfields win premierships. Adding say Atley at pick 6 would mean our first gun mids would be:

Cotchin, Deledio (HBF also), Foley, Martin, Atley

with a second tier of Jackson, Morton, Edwards, Tuck, Collins.

With Cousins retiring and Tuck probably having 4 years left I think adding a quality mid is a must. Wouldn't mind going a mid again with our second rounder or a quality HFF type like Lamb.

I think you underestimate Hardwicks man love for Ben Griffiths. In his eyes our forward line is set due to the fact that he thinks this kid is going to be a star (which I agree with). Not to mention we also have Post developing up forward (also back) and then Astbruy a swingman, Gourdis back, McGuane back, Thursfield back, Moore back, I think we are set for talls.

Add quality mids, Talented HFF to replace Matt White/King, and then ruck stocks.

 

[TradeDraft]

Why did you Change the Pies 1st Pick from Tom Lynch to Ben Jacobs?

 

[knightwheelrqr]

Why did you Change the Pies 1st Pick from Tom Lynch to Ben Jacobs?

Just moved a few around. Think Carlton might go KPF in the 1st round. Lynch has a wideish range but he could be someone who finds himself going higher. Jacobs I don't know how high the Pies are on him, but just whoever is best available we will take and I just rate the 24 guys ahead of him at this stage (though I would be in the minority with many thinking Jacobs should be taken in the teens). I'll be playing around with the picks a fair bit so don't read into it.

Good effort.

I think you may have misread Hardwick under the current situation. He stated earlier in the year he wanted to add another quality mid. Thus I think we will go there with pick 6. Atley or Gaff and if they are gone then Smith. We have Gus and Vickery as rucks and I would prefer to grab 2 more 1 late in the ND and another development ruck in the rookie draft.

I agree with what you said on Foley but I would still try and add depth as midfields win premierships. Adding say Atley at pick 6 would mean our first gun mids would be:

Cotchin, Deledio (HBF also), Foley, Martin, Atley

with a second tier of Jackson, Morton, Edwards, Tuck, Collins.

With Cousins retiring and Tuck probably having 4 years left I think adding a quality mid is a must. Wouldn't mind going a mid again with our second rounder or a quality HFF type like Lamb.

I think you underestimate Hardwicks man love for Ben Griffiths. In his eyes our forward line is set due to the fact that he thinks this kid is going to be a star (which I agree with). Not to mention we also have Post developing up forward (also back) and then Astbruy a swingman, Gourdis back, McGuane back, Thursfield back, Moore back, I think we are set for talls.

Add quality mids, Talented HFF to replace Matt White/King, and then ruck stocks.

I really rate your midfield honestly. There is a whole lot to like with a number of high draft picks there. After today though you have secured pick 6 with Brisbane winning, so one of Gaff/ Atley/ Gorringe looms likely. Gorringe who for whatever reason you sound discouraged about, I really rate him very highly and I think he would be great in a ruck partnership with Vickery (yes I rate him will ahead of Gus). I would be surprised if you didn't take the one of those 3 who is available. My thinking is that it might be Atley available, but one of those 3 will be available and all of which are worthy selections at 6.
Smith I like, but pick 6 is too early. Smith is more a pick 8-16 guy in my view.

I too like your backline so I wouldn't do much there.

I'll have a think about forwards. Ozgur Uysal might come into the clubs thinking from 3rd round. And I'm sure an additional midfielder will be added anyway. Myles Sewell is almost an attractive fit for Richmond late as a ready to go immediate guy, don't think he will go as high as I currently have him but other decent midfielders can be found later.

As for KPFs I'm not sold on Griffiths. Injury prone and really no idea what he will develop into. *Not a huge fan myself though it is encouraging to head Hardwick is*. I'd look to add minimum x1 KPF at some point in the draft. Possibly 2nd round since there are a few nice options.

 

[scotty4]

how do you rate michael hutchison?

 

[knightwheelrqr]

how do you rate michael hutchison?

I really like his upside. Hard to say where he will get selected but I think he might make it if given the opportunity. He is a little new to AFL, from a soccer background. Showed some nice run from defence and some nice ability overhead throughout the champs. Has a long way to go and is probably a 3rd year ready to go guy, but once he learns the game better I think he could make a really nice player for whoever gives him a chance.

 

[knightwheelrqr]

I have the same feeling which worries me... as i said i think it all depends on how big of a bite we get on a trade out with jacobs and how low it is.... but i have no doubt our first pick will be best available.... again.

As for gibbs i really think carlton are in limbo with him.. i'd love him in the middle as would the blues, but we haven't got anyone who can distribute the ball out of the backline like he can.. so for the time being i think gibbs is stuck!

Yeah with the Gibbs situation it would not surprise me if the vast majority of your picks were mids.

I've changed my mind on your first selection and right now I'm learning towards you going KPF. But still early days.

 

[krayfesh]

Yeah with the Gibbs situation it would not surprise me if the vast majority of your picks were mids.

I've changed my mind on your first selection and right now I'm learning towards you going KPF. But still early days.

We probably won't go best available with our pick being late, even as a first rounder.

I'm on the Wilson or Watson bandwagon.

Wilson would play the role that we have Gibbs doing now and Watson is obvious, I guess.

Then snap up Myles Sewell before GWS do

 

[buddyhawks23]

What do you think the chances of michael stockdale being picked up this year ?

 

[Balony_pony16]

good list...I think the lions will go for Polec, harper, or Caddy at #10

 

[knightwheelrqr]

We probably won't go best available with our pick being late, even as a first rounder.

I'm on the Wilson or Watson bandwagon.

Wilson would play the role that we have Gibbs doing now and Watson is obvious, I guess.

Then snap up Myles Sewell before GWS do

I think probably KPF round 1 is the way to go. Lynch is probably the guy I would look at if Cook is not available.

Myles Sewell I do think is a really nice fit and he would add some immediate grunt which I think would be a nice addition.

Prestia is another I like for Carlton. Pretty powerful guy. Big kick. Will be one of the more ready to go prospects and again through the midfield would add allot.

What do you think the chances of michael stockdale being picked up this year ?

I think he is a chance. Not sure he will go in the ND, but I think he could be a very good rookie choice.

good list...I think the lions will go for Polec, harper, or Caddy at #10

There are a few who might be looked at for Bris. Not sure Harper will go at 10 but Smith, Polec and Darling are the guys who I think will get closely looked at. Caddy is an outside chance, but not sure he will go quite so high. More a mid-late 1st rounder in my view, though a very good one.

 

[Andy_Mac]

Almost all have Melbourne taking Lucas Cook at their pick. Would love to know your thoughts on him as a player, ability to play AFL footy next year and his scope for improvement ie where he rates behind Day as the best KPF.

 

[knightwheelrqr]

Almost all have Melbourne taking Lucas Cook at their pick. Would love to know your thoughts on him as a player, ability to play AFL footy next year and his scope for improvement ie where he rates behind Day as the best KPF.

The only other club who might look into Cook at this stage might be Port Adelaide at 12/14 or wherever they finish. But after taking Butcher last season though I would probably go mid which leaves you going Cook who is the best available KPF.

Cook I do project to become a quality KPF, but without a doubt Day is another league ahead of Cook based on potential. Day could be anything and could become the leagues best KPP there is just so much to work with there.

Cook I think will be quality though. I see him being a 2nd year ready to go KPF. Very agile. Strong overhead. Good on the lead and not a bad reader of the ball. He might get a few games early on but that won't be close to the final product I wouldn't think. I project him to be good enough to hold down a KP post up forward for a number of years but I don't expect him to at any stage feature in the AA team.

If Cook is not available then don't be surprised if you go after Tom Lynch. He has a larger range in this draft than Cook but he isn't someone who will likely be available come your 2nd round pick. I think some clubs may have a varying view on him but I wouldn't be surprised to see a club take him high. After Cook probably the next best KPF.