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HUN have sucked Essendon dick for a long time.
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Essendon 2011
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HUN have sucked Essendon dick for a long time.
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NO, you are right.
James has run a successful business and was a great player, so he will be a great coach.
No need to do an apprenticeship! He knows it all already!
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The paper wants to sell copies, so most of the double page spreads are going to include Collingwood, Essendon, Richmond or another big club, it won't sell much copies with a North story.
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Are you all there? Please quote the part where I said he will be a great coach?
I simply said that just because you want him to fail so much, doesn't mean he will.
I find your comments about Hird quite embarrassing given the statement you made about the "Sad people who want nothing more than to see other people fail".
What's he up to these days?
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There is a difference between tagging and playing on someone. Not many teams use the hard tag that Judd gets on Watson. Stanton as soft and scared as he is has good foot skills and uses the ball well. I would much prefer Watson get 30 touches than Stanton. Much the same as I would prefer Cross to get 30 than Cooney.
Essendon's mids are so poor that a good player like Watson is getting wrapped up by their own supporters to be better than what the is.
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Watson's 30 possessions are a much higher quality that Stanton's 30 possessions.
Watson gets tagged most weeks and Stanton went to HB because he was carrying injury, so wrong on all accounts.
Not sure if serious? Stanton has good foot skills? You'd prefer Watson to get the ball 30 times?
The last part is pretty poor also. Watson is better than any mid on your list and there isn't much at all seperating both our midfields.
Ya reckon? I almost died of laughter when I read his post.
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i dont like essendon but i cant help but hope hirdy does well. There just seems to be a lot to like about his approach so far as silly as that seems. Makes the right noises and isnt backward and identifying the weaknesses of the club.
Just good to see him involved, id never want to see essendon do well personally, but i think hird will get them on the right track over time. They will improve this year because they do have some very good younger players. But i think the 8 is beyond them in 2011
Just good to see him involved, id never want to see essendon do well personally, but i think hird will get them on the right track over time. They will improve this year because they do have some very good younger players. But i think the 8 is beyond them in 2011
Players that average more basic skill errors per game more than Jobe Watson:
Dane Swan, Adam Goodes, Chris Judd, Steve Johnson, Adam Cooney, Ryan Griffen, Matthew Boyd, Brendon Goddard, Simon Black, Gary Ablett, Brent Stanton, Sam Mitchell, Aaron Davey, Adam Didak, Luke Hodge, Lenny Hayes, Paul chapman......
I can list another couple of hundred if so required?
Who is Adam Didak?
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lol. would you like a tissue to clean up?
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Crow-mo, stop being such a post whore & learn to use the ****ing multi-quote. I don't see why we should have to scroll through half a page of your trolling just so you can feel cool with a huge amount of posts
its very easy Lance,
as manhy of you (including yourself) don't seem able to grasp very simple concepts, I don't trust your ability parse within a single multi-quote post.
I like to make it simple and straight forward for you, so you can get clear focus on the basic ideas that you will then misunderstand.
you've not earned multi-quote trust
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do you have to resort to openly telling lies?
have you any idea what that says about you.
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- #269
yeah sorry, my bad. I thought they won 2 flags with that lot too.
I stand corrected.
Sure, when you recruit a player like Buddy it helps.
don't forget Mark Williams 46 goals too
I'm sorry, I thought they won a flag with that lot. my bad.
Goodes played Midfield, you don't think he's a champion?
Brett Kirk, Ryan O'Keefe superb onballers.
I'll give you Jude Bolton being on a par with Watson.
I'm sorry, I thought we lost to a team with an even better midfield?
my bad. I don't know what's wrong with my memory
awww how quaint you think we gave up Wells for Carey.
so your whole argument comes down to maybe. fine, have your maybe.
I'll stick with maybe not.
Ps. I think all the formatting really helped your argument.
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so you don't know the difference between a tag and have a matched up opponent? every player, has a player line up alongside them.
PS. you missed the trick question, Malthouse doesn't tag anyone
My bad. I was too excited typing the names of all these highly skilled players, that make more basic skill errors, per game, than the horrendously underskilled Jobe Watson.
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What a silly argument, those players you mentioned are far more damaging with the ball then Watson, they also tend to kick the ball a hell of a lot more then Watson.
We all know Watson is handball happy as he knows his limitations, Watson is a very good inside player who gives his team first use of the ball, he is not a link up player who you want third in line getting the ball and trying to deliver 40-50 meter passes to his teammates.
Is it harder to make a mistake with a dinky 5-10 meter handball or a 50 meter pass?
It is not a silly arguement if you understand the point. I'm not saying that Those guys are not more skillful or damaging, I am saying that Watson isn't as unskillful as people make out and more damaging than they give him credit for.
Another interesting stat is the clearences stats. Nine of the top ten in the competition were on the list I mentioned. The exception is Sandilands. So Watson still manages to be in the top echelon of clearence players in the competiton yet his error rate per game is quite low.
Contested possesions he is top 4 in the compeition and 4th in 1st possesions per game. He is pretty much on par with Judd in all those stats but has a better disposal efficiency than him.
It's no wonder that Watson is statistically the 2nd best inside midfielder over the last 3 years.
In 2010 Boyd, Watson and Judd were the best 3 inside mids in the game.
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this is a silly argument. with Watson's Kick:handball ratio he is likely to appear to make less errors than others, but will fall down in yards per possession. it is also a major issue with any argument about how damaging he is.
by all means make the argument about how skilled he is, or how damaging he is, but don't use error rates when discussing a player who avoids using his foot so comparatively little.
I remember someone telling me a year or two back how much Masten from WC had improved his kicking, but actually he was told to limit his options to short distances by foot. Brad Symes from my club is the same, has quite good DE% but only because he is under instruction to not bomb it.
well I don't think that's true, it's not about number of clearances, it's about effect on the game, this is where you use your eyes...oh yes, going to be hard for some.
Watson is a piece of a puzzle, he needs people to take the ball from him, and they need him to take it off. Team sport, so he fits a role. Wouldn't say he was football skillful with his disposal at the elite level, especially kicking, hands OK to good, but he knows how to read it from a stop position. Motion on the other hand he tends to get found out.
