Australia all time best X1

[freddy mercury]

Me and my mate are having a debate over what is the greatest Australian side we've seen. both being 21. Born in 1990.

This is my best X1.

Langer
Hayden
Ponting
S.Waugh
Symonds
M. Hussey
Gilchrist
Lee
Warne
S. Clark
Mcgrath

M. Waugh 12th man.


Thoughts?

 

[thecatattack]

Gillespie in for Clark.

 

[Simple Jack]

Steve Smith in for anybody
/troll
Depends where we're playing, S Macgill would be in for a test at Sydney for instance.

P.s. Can't believe how much it sucks that Macgill and Warnie were around at the same time, Macgill would be a 500+ wicket spinner if we had him now. Sigh

 

[ManWithNoName]

I hold Stuart MacGill's parents responsible for our current problem. WHY COULDN'T YOU WAIT ANOTHER TEN YEARS!?

 

[dan warna]

1. Boonie
2. Hayden
3. Ponting
4. M. hussey
5. Border
6. S.waugh
7. Gilchrist
8. Warne
9. Gillespie
10. Fleming
11. Mcgrath
12. Symonds (outstanding fielder)

(assuming you were watching cricket from age 2 )

 

[glenferry23]

Assuming we're trying to a pick a test side from say the last 15 years or so, damien martyn would be unlucky to be overlooked for a middle order position in favor of symonds

 

[Tassieboy]

Something different; the best ODI team since 1990.

From the top of my head, so probably missed someone.

1. Hayden
2. Gilchrist
3. Ponting (C)
4. M Waugh (I know he didn't bat there much in the latter half of his career, but Hayden couldn't bat anywhere else.)
5. Bevan
6. S Waugh (His all-round skills from early in his career get him a gig.) (VC)
7. Symonds
8. Gillespie (Lottery really.)
9. Warne
10. Lee
11. McGrath

(12). M Hussey

 

[freddy mercury]

Gillespie in for Clark.

not for me. Clark would of been as good as Mcrath if picked younger than what he was. Rated him very highly.

 

[ManWithNoName]

not for me. Clark would of been as good as Mcrath if picked younger than what he was. Rated him very highly.

Would having two such similar bowlers be as good as the variety of McGrath and Gillespie though?

 

[Tex_21]

As someone of a similar age

Test

1. Hayden
2. Taylor (numbers weren't as good, but he played against the best - the Windies with Ambrose/Walsh/Marshall - and the best captain) (C)
3. Ponting
4. M. Waugh (would go to a game just to watch him bat - and they best catch I've ever seen)
5. S. Waugh
6. D. Martyn
7. Gilchrist
8. Warne
9. Gillespie
10. Kasper (particularly on the sub continent - there was no-one with more guts)
11. McGrath

Hussey, Langer, Healy, Fleming unlucky

ODI
1.Gilchrist
2. Hayden (would have loved to put Mark Waugh here, but just can't fit him in)
3. Ponting
4. M. Waugh (as above-too good to leave out)
5. S. Waugh (C)
6. Bevan
7. Symonds (may bat higher - floater depending on how the innings progresses)
8. Harvey
9. Warne
10. Lee (hate him, but he is a great ODI bowler - just a tosser)
11. McGrath

Some very unlucky to miss - Lehmann, Martyn, Hussey in particular

 

[Headless]

Assuming we're trying to a pick a test side from say the last 15 years or so, damien martyn would be unlucky to be overlooked for a middle order position in favor of symonds

1. J Langer
2. M Hayden
3. R Ponting
4. M Waugh
5. S Waugh
6. D Martyn
7. A Gilchrist
8. S Warne
9. B Lee
10. J Gillespie
11. G McGrath

 

[glenferry23]

1. J Langer
2. M Hayden
3. R Ponting
4. M Waugh
5. S Waugh
6. D Martyn
7. A Gilchrist
8. S Warne
9. B Lee
10. J Gillespie
11. G McGrath

thats a damn good line up

 

[The Governor]

My Best test XI from 1998 to 2006 is:

Mark Taylor (CAPTAIN)
Matthew Hayden
Ricky
Mark Waugh
Steve Waugh (VC)
Damien Martyn
Gilly
Shane Warne
Brett Lee
Dizzy
Glen McGrath

 

[dan warna]

Deano, boonie, border, Langer > M.waugh and taylor.

Deano, boonie and border all played against the best as well, and came out with superior records.

langer in a the post taylor period as an opener was v. good.

M.waugh's test average of 40 compared to boonie, deano and border, who played in the same era, is very average.

Deano was one of the best fielders ever, boonie best short leg ever, border was v. good everywhere.

 

[Santana]

My Best test XI from 1998 to 2006 is:

Mark Taylor (CAPTAIN)
Matthew Hayden
Ricky
Mark Waugh
Steve Waugh (VC)
Damien Martyn
Gilly
Shane Warne
Brett Lee
Dizzy
Glen McGrath

If it's from 1998 to 2006 then I'm not really sure how you can have Taylor in there gov.

 

[courtjester]

In the time I've watched (mid 80s- now)

M. Hayden
M. Slater
R. Ponting
A. Border
D. Jones
S. Waugh
A. Gilchrist
S. Warne
J. Gillespie
C. McDermott
G. McGrath

12th- B. Reid

 

[ManWithNoName]

In the time I've watched (mid 80s- now)

M. Hayden
M. Slater
R. Ponting
A. Border
D. Jones
S. Waugh
A. Gilchrist
S. Warne
J. Gillespie
C. McDermott
G. McGrath

12th- B. Reid

Slater ahead of Taylor AND Langer? Had the talent but....really?

Mine (from about 1996ish onwards)

Hayden
Langer
Ponting
M Waugh
S Waugh (c)
D Lehmann (rate him above Marto, plus him and Tugga on field together means I do'nt have to carry Taylor as captain and can put Langer in)
Gilchrist +
Warne
Gillespie
Fleming
McGrath

 

[courtjester]

Yeh, Slater was great, set the tempo for a lot of success. Next choice would have been Boon.

The attacks faced by Boonie and Slater were far better than those faced by Langer and Hayden.

 

[Gazza_11]

Steve Smith in for anybody
/troll
Depends where we're playing, S Macgill would be in for a test at Sydney for instance.

P.s. Can't believe how much it sucks that Macgill and Warnie were around at the same time, Macgill would be a 500+ wicket spinner if we had him now. Sigh

Brad Hodge, Matthew Elliot and a bunch of swing bowlers say hi.

 

[alex 17]

Hayden
Langer
Ponting
Marto- Underated! Was a gun just couldn't perform against the Poms unfortunately. To be fair i remember him copping a lot of bad luck against the poms- 2 or 3 howler decisions in the 2005 ashes series.
M Waugh
S Waugh
Gilchrist
Warne
Gillespie?
Lee
Mcgrath

12th man: M. Hussey

AB stiff never saw him play (only 18)

 

[Simple Jack]

Brad Hodge, Matthew Elliot and a bunch of swing bowlers say hi.

Difference with Hodge is that MacGill was kept out of the test team because Warnie was always there to keep him out.
Hodge had a similar problem for the early part of his career but once Martyn was on the other side of the Hill, Hodge was only kept out because of political bullshit.

 

[Wicked Lester]

The thread is called Australia all time best XI, not the best I can remember in the short period of time I've watched cricket:

So, based on my reading of the game:

Ponsford
Hayden
Bradman
Ponting
Greg Chappell
Keith Miller
Gilchrist
Lindwall
Warne
Lillee
McGrath

Lindwall can be interchanged with O'Reilly or Grimmett based on pitch conditions.

And, because others are doing it, the best I've seen would be:

Lawry
Hayden
Ponting
Greg Chappell
Border
Walters
Gilchrist
Warne
Lillee
Thomson
McGrath

 

[Tassieboy]

How do people who watched Ian Chappell rate him? His average was goo for his era but not amazing, yet people speak highly of him - particulary his attack on the short ball and footwork against spinners.

 

[freddy mercury]

Anyone else rate Stuart Clark as High as I do?

Could have been as good as Mcrath if played as long as he did.

Been unlucky with such good bowlers in the same era, Mcrath Clark Warne Mcgill.

 

[dan warna]

The thread is called Australia all time best XI, not the best I can remember in the short period of time I've watched cricket:

So, based on my reading of the game:

Ponsford
Hayden
Bradman
Ponting
Greg Chappell
Keith Miller
Gilchrist
Lindwall
Warne
Lillee
McGrath

Lindwall can be interchanged with O'Reilly or Grimmett based on pitch conditions.

And, because others are doing it, the best I've seen would be:

Lawry
Hayden
Ponting
Greg Chappell
Border
Walters
Gilchrist
Warne
Lillee
Thomson
McGrath

i'd have AB ahead of punter, basically because AB batted against some great bowlers and when punter had his 'first' run in the test side, wasn't as well performed, but its opinion.

mmm I'd have s.Waugh ahead of dougie but your second team is damn awesome too, maybe dizzy ahead of thommo, idk, thommo was a legend and dizzy never seemed to have that personality despite being a damn awesome bowler.

I'd have loved to have been in Miller's inner circle, the tales of his adventures are pretty epic.