List Mgmt. Blair Hartley Project - 2014 - 5 list spaces confirmed

[TigerAndy]

So wtf was RFC doing between October and March?

to market, to market to buy a fat pig

 

[TigerImposter]

Possible, however again just because you are called a midfielder, it doesn't mean you can play every midfield role. Even a pure outside player like Grigg can be an asset, as long as he has other types around him. Put a fit Deledio in a Swans or Hawks jumper (and not because of their star players, because of their player types) and that dude would be AA every year.

I would love to see Grigg Houli and Ellis coached by Roos or Lyon. It would be intriguing to see if they would survive or thrive. I'm being serious guys

 

[Reykjavik]

its all good dude, the plan has always been to promote to the rest of the comp players who are not going to be around and keep the real jets away from prying eyes and have them develop their unique skills in the 2s. Once they have reached their prime, we lift the cup and everyone will be thinking how did that happen. Now keep it quiet though. I have devulged classified info so promise me you wont pass it on to your brains trust. If you do, then make them promise you that they wont pass it on the rest of the comp, because it could be the x-factor that propels you into the stratosphere of greatness.

A cunning plan. Alas all know the might of the one called Orren already.

 

["The Roar Is Back"]

I would love to see Grigg Houli and Ellis coached by Roos or Lyon. It would be intriguing to see if they would survive or thrive. I'm being serious guys

I'd be wrapped to see the first two coached by roos, lyon, Cameron, Scott x 2, buckley, simpson, McKenna, sanderson, hinkley, malthouse, McCartney, Longmire, Clarkson, Richardson, leppitsch or Thompson.

 

[TigerAndy]

If we are going to be throwing cash around I am going to stake my claim and say we need to throw it at a leader from a successful club. We have good players but we can't keep looking for players who have come from clubs that have no winning culture. Our recruits have been part of Mid tier sides or bottom rung sides. I really wanted Chapman (I hate the bald headed prick though) because he could have rightly gone to the tigers and (i hope) talked up about the winning Culture that was created at Geelong.

He was a massive risk with injuries. Imagine if we had got him and he broke down and he was talking about the winning culture from the side line in a year like the one we are having. As much as you have to grit your teeth every time he has a ripper for the Bombers, with the advantage of no hindsight in October last year I think the club made the right call in not getting him

 

[Reykjavik]

I would love to see Grigg Houli and Ellis coached by Roos or Lyon. It would be intriguing to see if they would survive or thrive. I'm being serious guys

Judging from what we've seen, they would find a niche racking up 20+ uncontested 20m passes to each other across half back.

 

[Grockadoc]

Target the 21-24 year old talented but fringe players from other clubs.

Players like:

Jarryd Lyons (Adelaide)
Cameron Ellis-Yolmen (Adelaide)
Kyle Martin (Collingwood)
Ben Kennedy (Collingwood)
Henry Schade (Gold Coast)
Aaron Hall (Gold Coast)
Jack Hutchins (Gold Coast)
Seb Tape (Golod Coast)
Sam Grimley (Hawthorn)
Jack Fitzpatrick (Melbourne)
Jamie Macmillan (North Melbourne)
Taylor Garner (North Melbourne)
Campbell Heath (Port Adelaide)
John Butcher (Port Adelaide)
Lewis Stevenson (Port Adelaide)
Andrew Moore (Port Adelaide)
Jasper Pittard (Port Adelaide)
Jarrad Redden (Port Adelaide)
Arryn Siposs (St. Kilda)
Alex Johnson (Sydney)
Nick Smith (Sydney)
Tom Mitchell (Sydney)
Scott Lycett (West Coast)
Christian Howard (Western Bulldogs)
Jarrad Grant (Western Bulldogs)

 

[_RT_]

It won't. But we will still have plenty of early draft picks to hopefully fix this problem.

**** me it's like when reading our suggestions some posters just automatically think that's it this is all we want. We want old premiership players and bring them to the club at all costs. Don't play anymore young kids and use our 1st round for Sewell and 2nd round for Okeefe.

We can still fix our gaping holes in our list through the draft.

You're missing the point though, people are complaining about playing the likes of Houli Grigg Thomas Petterd et al ahead of the kids, when asked who we would play the likes of Sewell and O'Keefe ahead of the answers were Grigg Houli Petterd Thomas et al. So the answer is to replace the old recycled 'hacks' with older recycled players in the hope that they can add something to the development of the leadership group. Along the way they will still stopping kids from being played.

That's the reason why I don't want to add them, not because they can't add anything but because we gain nothing from playing them. You can gain the same benefit through having them as development coaches, where they can work with the players on what it took to be successful, they can play with the kids in the VFL side if they so desire and work with our young kids in game situations to help them develop and understand what it takes to be successful, but to put them on the senior list is a waste of time. We need to be moving away from relying on recycled types to make us competitive not bringing more in.

 

[tigs2010]

You're missing the point though, people are complaining about playing the likes of Houli Grigg Thomas Petterd et al ahead of the kids, when asked who we would play the likes of Sewell and O'Keefe ahead of the answers were Grigg Houli Petterd Thomas et al. So the answer is to replace the old recycled 'hacks' with older recycled players in the hope that they can add something to the development of the leadership group. Along the way they will still stopping kids from being played.

That's the reason why I don't want to add them, not because they can't add anything but because we gain nothing from playing them. You can gain the same benefit through having them as development coaches, where they can work with the players on what it took to be successful, they can play with the kids in the VFL side if they so desire and work with our young kids in game situations to help them develop and understand what it takes to be successful, but to put them on the senior list is a waste of time. We need to be moving away from relying on recycled types to make us competitive not bringing more in.

Both were and still are better players than the ones you named. Quality over quantity. No one has criticized the concept of picking up mature-agers. It's all been about the sheer quantity of them and to a lesser extent the quality. It's why I'd take O'Keefe. He actually fits our recruiting mantra. He's an elite kick and a contested beast. Sewell not so much. Upgrade on Thomas? Definitely. Worth a list spot? probably not.

My one proviso is that if we were to do it is that we cut some of those guys off the list. Quantity down, quality up.

 

[_RT_]

Both were and still are better players than the ones you named. Quality over quantity. No one has criticized the concept of picking up mature-agers. It's all been about the sheer quantity of them and to a lesser extent the quality. It's why I'd take O'Keefe. He actually fits our recruiting mantra. He's an elite kick and a contested beast. Sewell not so much. Upgrade on Thomas? Definitely. Worth a list spot? probably not.

My one proviso is that if we were to do it is that we cut some of those guys off the list. Quantity down, quality up.

I see value in having them at the club, just not on the senior list. So rather than go around in circles I'm just going to agree to disagree.

 

[Moreaux]

Doesn't matter how big our war chest , who the hell is going to want to come to Richmond after the tripe we have dished up this year

 

[bananatigz]

Target the 21-24 year old talented but fringe players from other clubs.

Players like:

Jarryd Lyons (Adelaide)
Cameron Ellis-Yolmen (Adelaide)
Kyle Martin (Collingwood)
Ben Kennedy (Collingwood)
Henry Schade (Gold Coast)
Aaron Hall (Gold Coast)
Jack Hutchins (Gold Coast)
Seb Tape (Golod Coast)
Sam Grimley (Hawthorn)
Jack Fitzpatrick (Melbourne)
Jamie Macmillan (North Melbourne)
Taylor Garner (North Melbourne)
Campbell Heath (Port Adelaide)
John Butcher (Port Adelaide)
Lewis Stevenson (Port Adelaide)
Andrew Moore (Port Adelaide)
Jasper Pittard (Port Adelaide)
Jarrad Redden (Port Adelaide)
Arryn Siposs (St. Kilda)
Alex Johnson (Sydney)
Nick Smith (Sydney)
Tom Mitchell (Sydney)
Scott Lycett (West Coast)
Christian Howard (Western Bulldogs)
Jarrad Grant (Western Bulldogs)

Ones I would be interested in

 

[smasha]

Clean the rockstars out.Let Dimma work with quality!

 

[TheDyerLegacy]

I mentioned both of these guys before I think, coming from a good club in Sydney, would come cheap. Ideally I would be looking at recruiting Parker from them since I cannot see them holding onto all there stars.

Tim Membrey

Height 188 cm

DOB 26-05-1994

Weight 90 kg

Debut Yet to debut

Notes:

Having a good year in the NEAFL, kicked 32 goals so far from 9 games. I know the quality of the NEAFL isn’t good. Doesn’t look to be getting a game in the Swans star-studded forward line. A former pick 47 in the 2012 AFL Draft. Has a big body and built a tank to run through the HFF/Wing as well as being a dangerous forward. He could be what he hoped Chris Knights was going to be for us. Is a Victorian boy so we could use the old come home factor. Would straighten up our forward structure with him playing a third marking option. Worth a punt.

Dean Towers

Height 189 cm

DOB 04-05-1990

Weight 87 kg

Debut- Yet to Debut


Notes:

Just got injured in the NEAFL, originally drafted to the swans as a wingman but found himself playing up forward. Has genuine pace and could be used to replace Grigg on the wing. Needs to find more of the footy through. Was drafted as a mature age player to the swans but failed to break into their team. Is a run and carry type player that can break the lines, something we dearly need. As above worth a punt.

 

[richoatthedisco]

Great.

Now agents know we're desperate and will over-pay. Again.

Good work, Dan.

Talk about damage control funneling this shit out to the media today.

I know. Seriously, absolute PR rubbish from the club yet again. Just STFU and do it, then talk about it.

Outside Mid with questionable kicking. Would need to do too much with a Richmond top on, great in good team, elite in a great team. Won't fix Richmond without help around him.

I recommend actually watching Nathan Fyfe play a game of football. He wears No.7 for Fremantle.

 

[nut]

By playing Thomas dh is destroying Arnott's career at PR

Add Arnotts kicking and I tend to agree.....

 

[I Rock]

I recommend actually watching Nathan Fyfe play a game of football. He wears No.7 for Fremantle.

I recommend you watch him play and not just form an opinion off what you hear about him in the media.

 

[Mr Magic]

Still think we could easily end up with Tyson by 2016.

GWS might want more draft picks to spread their cap to assist balancing their list and making it more effective in terms of synergy and maintaining a sustainable cap. If all their quality surges at once they will bust their cap which will not suit them either. Eg. draft picks to GWS, Boyd to MFC, Tyson to RFC.

No doubt as Cola disappears for GWS the likes of Scully probably traded on.

 

[C4[2]Yo`DooR]

Blair/Tigers having a crack at Hayden Crozier (Fremantle).

 

[TigerTime88]

Blair/Tigers having a crack at Hayden Crozier (Fremantle).

Interesting.

From memory he can take a hanger? How has he been going at AFL level I haven't been following him?

 

[TigersMan4]

Blair/Tigers having a crack at Hayden Crozier (Fremantle).

Dont tell me that's what Richardson means by going to market...

 

[C4[2]Yo`DooR]

Interesting.

From memory he can take a hanger? How has he been going at AFL level I haven't been following him?

Yep, high leaping and extremely quick with some nice tricks from what I remember?

He was undersized (skinny), but I'm not sure how he's filled out or what his WAFL form has been like, don't think he's made that many senior appearances.

 

[Nostradumbass]

Yep, high leaping and extremely quick with some nice tricks from what I remember?

He was undersized, but I'm not sure how he's filled out or what his WAFL form has been like, don't think he's made that many senior appearances.

Great...

 

[TigerTime88]

At least now we are going after the right kind of recycled player. First round draft picks with class who need a weaker 22 to break into to show what they have got. Just watched some highlights and he has pace, good mark and a good left shoe. I would assume his issues are his consistency and finding the pill, from what I just read on the Freo board.

In saying that I wouldn't want to be giving up either of our first 2 picks for a player like this.

 

[thecotch]

Everyone relax. The warchest has been found safe and sound!!!