Hostage Situation - Martin Place, Sydney

[RICHOLEGEND12]

This guy bumped into him, so plausible that he didn't intend to keep Cafe held up:

http://www.goldcoastbulletin.com.au/the-man-who-bumped-into-a-gunman-behind-lindt-cafe-siege-and-was-threatened-with-being-shot/story-fnj90t7b-1227156623104

This guy also said he saw the gunman with two other men. Hopefully he's making shit up.

 

[Dugdale2Dwyer]

Looks like the boss of the swat team rolled up, he was having a joke with a swat guy, they were smiling, more plain clothes cops on the street now, one was looking up to a roof, sniper maybe?

 

[RICHOLEGEND12]

Looks like the boss of the swat team rolled up, he was having a joke with a swat guy, they were smiling, more plain clothes cops on the street now, one was looking up to a roof, sniper maybe?

What feed are you watching?

 

[calaisking]

Just listened to the interview from one of the top cops, they are giving away absolutely nothing to the public

Every question is getting the most watered down answers I've ever heard

 

[Kappa]

Looks like the boss of the swat team rolled up, he was having a joke with a swat guy, they were smiling, more plain clothes cops on the street now, one was looking up to a roof, sniper maybe?

Why do people keep saying SWAT and SAS when we have neither of them in Australia?

 

[calaisking]

What feed are you watching?

Channel 9 have a live feed online

http://www.9news.com.au/national/2014/12/15/10/00/major-police-operation-in-sydneys-martin-place

 

[MJ2014]

This guy also said he saw the gunman with two other men. Hopefully he's making shit up.

Must be 3 of them.

 

[Sydney Bloods]

They need to act NOW, right during night, when darkness and confusion inside reign.

Daytime is too risky as criminals see all.

dude its 9:44. cops have plenty of night left.

 

[PP34]

SHIT'S ABOUT TO GET REAL MAAAAAN

**** it, I'm playing Skyrim

 

[John Dawh]

Really?

No, really?

 

[little graham]

SHIT'S ABOUT TO GET REAL MAAAAAN

And its not already?

 

[Dugdale2Dwyer]

Swat guy went into a building where all the plain clothes cops had been going into, came back carrying a box, donuts maybe?
Sky news live feed.

 

[RIOLIUSTAR]

Pleasantly surprised to date - the forces appear to have shit locked up tight, and as under control as possible.

Well we have an amateur holed up in a coffee shop so you'd hope so

 

[GTOA]

If you want twelve dead hostages then sure

He might kill them regardless.

Why do people think that someone like this will "do the right thing" when, if they did the right thing before, they wouldn't be in this situation?

Someone who carries a gun and holds people hostage is not likely to be the most honest and trustworthy person. So why do we think he can be appeased?

I say,if it is one perpetrator, draw him to the window, and get a police sniper to take him out. Then rescue the hostages.

Who cares if civil libertarians cry about you taking out the perp? People should be thanking the police for rescuing the hostages, not condemning them if they shoot the crim.

 

[scon]

Martin Place siege: Gold Coast police swoop on public places following terrifying Sydney

And this is just precautionary.

 

[GTOA]

This is not the time or place

If not now, then when?

 

[RIOLIUSTAR]

I think Smiling Buddha is genuinely foaming at the prospect of been able to continue the Conspiracy thread

 

[PP34]

If not now, then when?

They're two separate issues. Surely you can see that.

 

[King Elvis]

I think that the man was going to go somewhere else, someone spotted him and told the police, so he ducked into the cafe, and held the people hostage, because things didn't go to plan and he has got desperate.

Also, not making demands might mean that the guy is some amateur and is more desperate than a major threat. His actions don't scream "criminal genius". Sounds like some campaigner who has got in over his head and likes showing how he can cause chaos.

Suggestions are he's made demands, but the police are refusing to publicise them.

 

[LicoriceAllsorts]

I'd suggest that if they were absolutely positive it was just him and that he didn't have any accomplices, they would have shot him already by now.

I doubt it's that easy to get a shot, getting a good angle is hard enough with the positioning of surrounding buildings, he has been using hostages as body shields at times, and he isn't going to be going and standing right at the window either

 

[JUBJUB]

Never change.

Cops should do a trade - anyone caught doing a selfie traded for current hostages.
Doubt anyone would care if Mr Nutbag blew the shit out of selfie morons.

 

[Dugdale2Dwyer]

SWAT guys are lining up, there is some serious movement.

 

[LicoriceAllsorts]

Guys in suits with guns just looked down the street, shits about to go down.

Is it gonna go down?

 

[Off The Couch]

If not now, then when?

Start a thread in GD and discuss away

 

[LicoriceAllsorts]

SWAT guys are lining up, there is some serious movement.

How you seeing it?