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[jod23]

jod23 you must be ecstatic, have been demanding Firmino for probably 12 months

Yep I have championed him for a loooong time. These were the events that took place.

So first off this is me in front of my computer when first hearing the news.

I then immediately turned to my roommate who also is a huge Red and this happened.

Then after the shock kind of died down, I began to get happy.

Which in turn, turned into this...

Then this happened.

Then the happiness died down.

Because I got emotional.

Then after pulling myself together I went outside and my day kinda just went like this.

 

[jod23]

I didn't get a pm from GB either. Not sure whether to be pleased or disappointed.

I got one. I felt good about it. Despite the content haha.

 

[jod23]

Yes I agree with Coooldude, too

Good to be back in old skin

And let's make Ilori third choice and Lovren can fold the kits pre game. Watched the Palace game, not sure how every Palace player looked like Messi/Ronaldo as soon as they were 1v1 with Lovren

Having said all that about buying Soton players, it'd be nice to get Clyne for the price quoted

PS: Thanks mate, hope you've been well

CD!

So good to see you my man. Welcome back! Glad to hear things are ok with your Dad. We were all thinking of you whilst you were away.

Excellent timing for your return as this transfer window so far is going quite swimmingly.

 

[LFC2010]

What type of line up could we look at now that we've got Firmino? will we see a change in shape possibly?

 

[ADL9798]

 

[Milenko]

4-3-3

Bacca (/Studge)
Firmino Coutino
Hendo Milner Can
Moreno Sakho Skrtel Clyne

4-4-2 diamond

Bacca (/Studge) Firmino
Coutino
Hendo Milner
Can
Moreno Sakho Skrtel Clyne

 

[ADL9798]

'Bob & Phil, the boys from Brasil'

There's got to be a song in there somewhere..

 

[Zidane98]

I know our CB's are much maligned but could it be that the goalkeeper behind them is just as useless at helping organising them? I don't trust Mignolet one bit, he just doesn't inspire any confidence. If we could concede less then we wouldn't need to rely on scoring at least 2 goals every match.

Mignolet was excellent second half of last season. Ignore the Stoke game, our season had finished by then.

His first half of 13/14 was also quality. I'm pretty happy with him now tbh.

 

[FAITH]

we will end up with benteke imo bacca will go to italy.
also how can the english media including the echo be so clueless re kovacic yet quality italian media thinks we will end up getting him?
i guess the british media were also clueless bout firmino

 

[Milenko]

Mignolet was excellent second half of last season. Ignore the Stoke game, our season had finished by then.

His first half of 13/14 was also quality. I'm pretty happy with him now tbh.

He's a great shot stopper, but he's poor with the ball at his feet and at distribution, and just average at defending crosses.

I would not be averse to an upgrade.

 

[Zidane98]

He's a great shot stopper, but he's poor with the ball at his feet and at distribution, and just average at defending crosses.

I would not be averse to an upgrade.

Second half of last season he dealt with crooked & high balls fairly well IMO. Slight question mark with the ball at his feet but has improved there too. Shop stopping is excellent. Can't think of too many keepers available that would be a significant upgrade.

 

[Ashton Agar]

He's a great shot stopper, but he's poor with the ball at his feet and at distribution, and just average at defending crosses.

I would not be averse to an upgrade.

Yeah, would have loved Cech. But he was adamant about staying in London anyway.

Not that I'm against Mignolet, but Cech would have been an upgrade for sure.

 

[jod23]

An upgrade in goal is something that can be looked at but it's not a weak spot. Migs is very good but we could get better. Right now though we have far more pressing concerns elsewhere in the squad so Mignolet is safe for now. Im happy with him, his last half of the season was very good.

As for formations. What about the old classic 4-2-3-1

------------Mignolet
Clyne--Skrtel--Sakho--Moreno
--------Can---Henderson------
Milner-----Firmino-----Coutino
-----------Sturridge------------

Bogdan, Lovren, Flanagan, Lucas, Lallana, Ibe, Bacca

Squad depth, Toure, Markovic, Allen, Origi, Ings, Enrique, Ilori, Ward.

Bacca and Clyne I have named as names we have been linked to in positions we desperately need. So instead of just putting New RB and new Striker. I have just put names down to pad out the squad. Clyne looks close. No idea on Bacca though.

 

[kane249]

Was reading somewhere Manquillo's loan deal might be cut short and he will be sent back as Benefica want to buy him.

 

[jod23]

Was reading somewhere Manquillo's loan deal might be cut short and he will be sent back as Benefica want to buy him.

Yeah i'd heard that too. Wont bother me either way. He either gets sent back or we keep him another year on loan for cover at RB.

 

[timskul]

Milner with the no 7 shirt...not sure whether confidence is good, or too much arrogance!!

 

[Milenko]

An upgrade in goal is something that can be looked at but it's not a weak spot. Migs is very good but we could get better. Right now though we have far more pressing concerns elsewhere in the squad so Mignolet is safe for now. Im happy with him, his last half of the season was very good.

As for formations. What about the old classic 4-2-3-1

------------Mignolet
Clyne--Skrtel--Sakho--Moreno
--------Can---Henderson------
Milner-----Firmino-----Coutino
-----------Sturridge------------

Bogdan, Lovren, Flanagan, Lucas, Lallana, Ibe, Bacca

Squad depth, Toure, Markovic, Allen, Origi, Ings, Enrique, Ilori, Ward.

Bacca and Clyne I have named as names we have been linked to in positions we desperately need. So instead of just putting New RB and new Striker. I have just put names down to pad out the squad. Clyne looks close. No idea on Bacca though.

Pretty crazy that we spent 20M squid on squad depth Markovic.

He is quite a conundrum. Clearly has bags of talent, definitely lacking confidence, possibly lacking the gaffer's faith.

A loan is not out of the question.

Enrique will be shipped out BTW.

 

[jod23]

Pretty crazy that we spent 20M squid on squad depth Markovic.

He is quite a conundrum. Clearly has bags of talent, definitely lacking confidence, possibly lacking the gaffer's faith.

A loan is not out of the question.

Well yeah right now he is squad depth which is bizarre for someone we spunked 20 million on. It's not because he is terrible either. He clearly has a lot of talent. It's just that Lallana, Coutinho and now Firmino are ahead of him in AM positions. Then arguably so is Ibe now. Milner also joining hurts his chances.

Hopefully he plays though, has a large ceiling.

 

[ADL9798]

we will end up with benteke imo bacca will go to italy.
also how can the english media including the echo be so clueless re kovacic yet quality italian media thinks we will end up getting him?
i guess the british media were also clueless bout firmino

It is interesting that Firmino wasn't leaked at all from our end (ie journalists w sources at Liverpool) until the very last minute, the story came from Brasil. It's not that the English media are clueless, it's likely just that they haven't received any information from their end and therefore have nothing to report.

It wouldn't surprise me if the club was keeping everything very quiet with respect to a few of their more complicated and high profile targets, and not leaking any information until they're almost certain that a player is attainable or almost over the line. Conversely people like Di Marzio are getting most of their information from agents, who obviously don't have the same incentive to keep things quiet.

 

[ADL9798]

Well yeah right now he is squad depth which is bizarre for someone we spunked 20 million on. It's not because he is terrible either. He clearly has a lot of talent. It's just that Lallana, Coutinho and now Firmino are ahead of him in AM positions. Then arguably so is Ibe now. Milner also joining hurts his chances.

Hopefully he plays though, has a large ceiling.

There's so much money in the game now, quite simply £20m ain't what it used to be. Every club with any aspirations of challenging for trophies will have multiple £20m+ options in each position (and probably with a few key players worth significantly more than that), particularly in the final third where the fees are typically higher.

 

[jod23]

It is interesting that Firmino wasn't leaked at all from our end (ie journalists w sources at Liverpool) until the very last minute, the story came from Brasil. It's not that the English media are clueless, it's likely just that they haven't received any information from their end and therefore have nothing to report.

It wouldn't surprise me if the club was keeping everything very quiet with respect to a few of their more complicated and high profile targets, and not leaking any information until they're almost certain that a player is attainable or almost over the line. Conversely people like Di Marzio are getting most of their information from agents, who obviously don't have the same incentive to keep things quiet.

If true then it's interesting regarding Kovacic. Firmino stuff came out of Brazil first. English media had no idea. There has been a lot of stuff from Italy regarding Kovacic but nothing out of England.

Fingers crossed

 

[Sippa]

With firmino in the door, and as discussed a hugely talented markovic still on the books I'm more than happy to get rid of sterling and his shit attitude for 40+mil.

 

[jod23]

With firmino in the door, and as discussed a hugely talented markovic still on the books I'm more than happy to get rid of sterling and his shit attitude for 40+mil.

Would be great though is say we signed Kovacic, Bacca and Clyne, didnt sell Sterling. Had a great year, made the CL, then he is happy because we signed great players and we have ambition, then signs a new long term deal.

We all win.

But seriously. He is gone.

 

[craigos]

http://anfieldindex.com/podcast
Episode 76, discussing Firmino. Well worth a listen.

 

[FAITH]

It is interesting that Firmino wasn't leaked at all from our end (ie journalists w sources at Liverpool) until the very last minute, the story came from Brasil. It's not that the English media are clueless, it's likely just that they haven't received any information from their end and therefore have nothing to report.

It wouldn't surprise me if the club was keeping everything very quiet with respect to a few of their more complicated and high profile targets, and not leaking any information until they're almost certain that a player is attainable or almost over the line. Conversely people like Di Marzio are getting most of their information from agents, who obviously don't have the same incentive to keep things quiet.

what i was thinking as well thats why i reckon kovacic will happen.