List Mgmt. Treloar officially nominates Pies as his pref club (Mods: please use this thread for all AT posts)

[swoop42]

Holly crap this is doing my head in. WE ARE NOT GIVING AWAY TWO FIRST ROUNDERS.

If Treloar was in the draft and was our first pick we would need to use one of those picks on him (or another kid).

We are giving away ONE first round pick, 2016. We actually get Treloar for the one in 2015. If one first round pick was the difference in sending us down the ladder or affecting our future then I would suggest the club is doing a lot of other things wrong.

We are sacrificing one pick to get a young, ready made gun.

Yes I have raised this little point previously.

We can absolutely afford to give away 2 picks for one player if it comes to that.

 

[Ketchup]

Holly crap this is doing my head in. WE ARE NOT GIVING AWAY TWO FIRST ROUNDERS.

If Treloar was in the draft and was our first pick we would need to use one of those picks on him (or another kid).

We are giving away ONE first round pick, 2016. We actually get Treloar for the one in 2015. If one first round pick was the difference in sending us down the ladder or affecting our future then I would suggest the club is doing a lot of other things wrong.

We are sacrificing one pick to get a young, ready made gun.

So what your saying is, it's two first round picks for treloar?

Ok. Got it.

 

[good4footy]

So what your saying is, it's two first round picks for treloar?

Ok. Got it.

I think you may need to read my post in context. Some are getting worked up about two first rounders like we are giving them away for nothing and it's giving away our future.

We are actually getting a player for them (as opposed to two players if we went to the draft). We are losing the ability to draft one future player not two players.

I will leave it at that.

 

[DaVe86]

Holly crap this is doing my head in. WE ARE NOT GIVING AWAY TWO FIRST ROUNDERS.

If Treloar was in the draft and was our first pick we would need to use one of those picks on him (or another kid).

We are giving away ONE first round pick, 2016. We actually get Treloar for the one in 2015. If one first round pick was the difference in sending us down the ladder or affecting our future then I would suggest the club is doing a lot of other things wrong.

We are sacrificing one pick to get a young, ready made gun.

Its an interesting way to look at it but ultimately a flawed concept.

In the end, you trade based on a players value.

2 first round picks sounds excessive.

Based on the beams deal which was pick 5, 25 and fringe player, then i would say treloar is worth about the same.

That sais, Im not against trading next years first rounder, i just dont think you can do it based on your logic.

We need to do the best deal possible. Obviously, if we can manage to keep next years first rounder then it gives us other options to recruit a big name player or get another great kid next year.

I would expect the club is going to do all it can to try and hold onto that pick. But in the end, we are throwing the kitchen sink at treloar so i cant see the club letting the deal slip if thats what it takes to get it across the line.

If we are going to tradr next years pick, then i think it is essential we keep scharenberg and freeman. We cant just bleed first round picks

 

[good4footy]

Its an interesting way to look at it but ultimately a flawed concept.

In the end, you trade based on a players value.

2 first round picks sounds excessive.

Based on the beams deal which was pick 5, 25 and fringe player, then i would say treloar is worth about the same.

That sais, Im not against trading next years first rounder, i just dont think you can do it based on your logic.

We need to do the best deal possible. Obviously, if we can manage to keep next years first rounder then it gives us other options to recruit a big name player or get another great kid next year.

I would expect the club is going to do all it can to try and hold onto that pick. But in the end, we are throwing the kitchen sink at treloar so i cant see the club letting the deal slip if thats what it takes to get it across the line.

If we are going to tradr next years pick, then i think it is essential we keep scharenberg and freeman. We cant just bleed first round picks

I don't disagree with what you say and in fact it is exactly what we should be striving to do. However if we indeed need to give up both years first rounders it is only one extra pick we are sacrificing where we don't get an extra player - probably at around pick 12 in 2016.

 

[Bard]

Its an interesting way to look at it but ultimately a flawed concept.

In the end, you trade based on a players value.

2 first round picks sounds excessive.

Based on the beams deal which was pick 5, 25 and fringe player, then i would say treloar is worth about the same.

That sais, Im not against trading next years first rounder, i just dont think you can do it based on your logic.

We need to do the best deal possible. Obviously, if we can manage to keep next years first rounder then it gives us other options to recruit a big name player or get another great kid next year.

I would expect the club is going to do all it can to try and hold onto that pick. But in the end, we are throwing the kitchen sink at treloar so i cant see the club letting the deal slip if thats what it takes to get it across the line.

If we are going to tradr next years pick, then i think it is essential we keep scharenberg and freeman. We cant just bleed first round picks

You're missing his point... He's arguing against the people saying that by giving up two first rounders we're losing 2 possible first round selections. He's saying that because we're getting 1 player in return we're missing out on one first round selection as Treloar is equivalent to one. His post had literally nothing to do with Treloar's worth.

 

[Disco_Stu]

It seems blatantly obvious Gale is really trying to deflect Richmond's failures.

Richmond - worst performing club over the past 30 years.
Richmond - a list that is not good enough to win finals football.
Richmond - a club that is so far off the competition in terms of footy smarts.
Richmond - can only recruit offcuts.
Richmond - don't get how to draft talent.
Richmond - completely dillusional and a joke among other clubs.
Richmond - with a coach who has coached most games in the AFL without a finals win.

Gale and his team are covering up their own failures. Rather than cry over Treloar, show some professionalism and maturity and move on to another target. gale knows the supporters are going to be miffed. So what does he do, convinces his supporters that the Pies didn't play by the rules. Come on Gale, you have let yourself down and really embarrassed your club

Good imagination champ.

Operation get Treloar on track. afl reminding all clubs to be good boys and girls. GWS will do the right thing by GWS.

 

[swoop42]

If Treloar as he is now went into the national draft he'd most likely go pick 1.

Pick 7 and a selection outside the top 10 next season let's say 12 wouldn't be likely to fetch you pick 1 in a draft year to take the best unproven talent which Treloar obviously isn't.

If future trading was available last year we would have asked for two first rounders for Beams.

As it is pick 5 trumps our pick 7, Crisp is a 21 year old who'll probably finish top 6 in the Copeland and go on to play 150 games for the club while pick 25 landed us a very capable player in Greenwood who we are yet to see the best of in Collingwood colours.

Still think that compensation eclipses two first rounders for Treloar who is 2 years younger than Beams, a player who should go on to play 200 games for our club.

We'll look to get him for less but we'd be fools to not hand over the above if we have to IMHO.

 

[good4footy]

You're missing his point... He's arguing against the people saying that by giving up two first rounders we're losing 2 possible first round selections. He's saying that because we're getting 1 player in return we're missing out on one first round selection as Treloar is equivalent to one. His post had literally nothing to do with Treloar's worth.

If I could have said it so succinctly myself I would not have to respond to 3 different posts.

 

[Ketchup]

If Treloar as he is now went into the national draft he'd most likely go pick 1.

Pick 7 and a selection outside the top 10 next season let's say 12 wouldn't be likely to fetch you pick 1 in a draft year to take the best unproven talent which Treloar obviously isn't.

If future trading was available last year we would have asked for two first rounders for Beams.

As it is pick 5 trumps our pick 7, Crisp is a 21 year old who'll probably finish top 6 in the Copeland and go on to play 150 games for the club while pick 25 landed us a very capable player in Greenwood who we are yet to see the best of in Collingwood colours.

Still think that compensation eclipses two first rounders for Treloar who is 2 years younger than Beams, a player who should go on to play 200 games for our club.

We'll look to get him for less but we'd be fools to not hand over the above if we have to IMHO.

Imagine getting pick 5 and pick 2 for Beams but. That would of been nice.

 

[sirlothie]

Good imagination champ.

Operation get Treloar on track. afl reminding all clubs to be good boys and girls. GWS will do the right thing by GWS.

Keeping in mind Treloar's desire to join his nominated club. He's not going to Richmond, just get over it...

 

[nahnah]

Good imagination champ.

Operation get Treloar on track. afl reminding all clubs to be good boys and girls. GWS will do the right thing by GWS.

Keep your filthy hands off our player

 

[MagpieJoel]

No.

A club official (high ranking) mentioned to me the PSD.

It could have been an option.

It looks highly likely we'll be more than adequately compensated and that won't happen.

That's called chest beating/thumping.

 

[PicaBoo]

Good imagination champ.

Operation get Treloar on track. afl reminding all clubs to be good boys and girls. GWS will do the right thing by GWS.

Sure. Can you guarantee that the 2 brothers at the clubs won't discuss delicate GWS Richmond matters at the usual Sunday family dinner . If you can't, please let one of them resign for obvious conflict of interest. Proof is not required nowadays.

 

[Smokeyr67]

That's called chest beating.

Chest??

 

[MagpieJoel]

Chest??

Chest.

 

[BPikkers]

Good imagination champ.

Operation get Treloar on track. afl reminding all clubs to be good boys and girls. GWS will do the right thing by GWS.

Just stating facts Bad Boy. Go ahead and dispute them.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Giving away two first rounders really is quite a serious blow for the future of the team is 5-6 years... hopefully the club is doing everything possible to make it one 1st round pick + 2nd round player and/or player.

same-same as far as i'm concerned. A future pick is not worth the same as a current pick....basic net present value maths.

A current second round pick is worth the same as a future first round pick

 

[NT.Thunder]

I myself, will be happy to part with pick 18 from next seasons draft not taking into account priority and other picks

 

[jmac70]

Good imagination champ.

Operation get Treloar on track. afl reminding all clubs to be good boys and girls. GWS will do the right thing by GWS.

Your club should concentrate on operation: win a final.

 

[Scodog10]

Everyone ready to hear what Brendan "salty tears" Gale has to say on SEN? I know I am

 

[Apex36]

If Treloar as he is now went into the national draft he'd most likely go pick 1.

Pick 7 and a selection outside the top 10 next season let's say 12 wouldn't be likely to fetch you pick 1 in a draft year to take the best unproven talent which Treloar obviously isn't.

If future trading was available last year we would have asked for two first rounders for Beams.

As it is pick 5 trumps our pick 7, Crisp is a 21 year old who'll probably finish top 6 in the Copeland and go on to play 150 games for the club while pick 25 landed us a very capable player in Greenwood who we are yet to see the best of in Collingwood colours.

Still think that compensation eclipses two first rounders for Treloar who is 2 years younger than Beams, a player who should go on to play 200 games for our club.

We'll look to get him for less but we'd be fools to not hand over the above if we have to IMHO.

Before this season Crisp was a 21 year old who had played less than 20 games in 3 years and 6 solid games in his whole career, which came at the back end of 2014.

You can't rate his trade worth on what he did after he was traded, only before, and before this year he was worth less than Seedsman. His value was a third or fourth rounder at best, the definition of steak knives. Why is that so hard for people to get their head around?

 

[nahnah]

Everyone ready to hear what Brendan "salty tears" Gale has to say on SEN? I know I am

'we have not given up hope, we have offered him a new deal that includes being the captain of our club'

 

[Apex36]

Everyone ready to hear what Brendan "salty tears" Gale has to say on SEN? I know I am

Cliff notes please!

 

[BC__]

Everyone ready to hear what Brendan "salty tears" Gale has to say on SEN? I know I am

Sounds like a man that knows his list is mentally weak.