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A child should be raised by a mother AND a father.
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Crows Chat That 'Doesnt Deserve Its Own Thread' Thread part 2
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Agree on first statement. Not on the second. (I understand you don't literally mean married)
Now this I'm on board with
You are trying to force me and others into an absolute position where we must either agree with you or we are racist, homophobic, whatever. This is either consciously or unconsciously disingenuous on your part and as a tactic of debate, it simply won’t do.
Is the tenet in the Salvo’s handbook the Old Testament position where Homosexuals and others that have sexual practices that are not solely for procreation to the greater glory of God are to be put to death?
Is it the New Testament position—and there are very few references to homosexuality in this book—that these people will be deprived of immortal life?
Do you imagine that if the hierarchy of the Salvation Army issued an order to Go forth and murder the homos that its adherents would blindly follow?
As to whether or not I or anyone else on this board would continue to support the Crows if our hierarchy adopted a racist or homophobic position, of course not! Would I simply say Oh f*** I can only support or not support this position? Nah, I’d be banding together with other members and supporters to find an immediate way to remove the board and the CEO and to elect people more in tune with liberal democratic traditions.
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It's optimal to raise a child in a family with a high socioeconomic status. Should those below this status not be allowed to adopt? It's optimal that neither parent have any family history of medical or mental illness. Type two diabetes runs in the family? Not optimal, can't adopt. Live remotely? Not optimal, can't adopt. In debt? Not optimal, can't adopt. Have no other children? Not optimal, can't adopt. Smoke? Can't adopt. Drink? Can't adopt.
Raising children is the most complicated thing that anyone can do. There are so many variables that go into a 'good' upbringing. That you feel that you can take one aspect of people (gender/sexuality), and believe it should restrict their ability to raise children because of it, shows great prejudice.
Yep. And if one of the parents dies, then they should be adopted into a family with a mother AND a father, because it's the right thing to do.
If Mum can't look after the baby and an Aunt wants to take over care, then that's just not on
The only issue two people of the same gender have with raising a child is with ignorant people who don't understand what it takes to raise a child. (Hint: It's not what's between your legs).
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Nature says otherwise.
The only thing needed is a man & a woman.
If you wants kids, thats the 1 prerequisite.
The only thing needed is a man & a woman.
If you wants kids, thats the 1 prerequisite.
Not a man and a woman, but a sperm and an egg. It doesnt have to be your sperm. It doesnt have to be your egg.
Are you saying infertile couples should 't be able to adopt/ use tech to bave kids because nature didnt want them to?
And what nature are you talking about anyway? Nature also includes gay couples who want kids. Their nature is to want kids. It's a part of their happiness.
Are you saying infertile couples should 't be able to adopt/ use tech to bave kids because nature didnt want them to?
And what nature are you talking about anyway? Nature also includes gay couples who want kids. Their nature is to want kids. It's a part of their happiness.
And while I'm on a little rant....
What is this magical parenting quality that one male and one female parents have compared to two people of the same gender?
I keep hearing 'a child needs a Mum and a Dad' but no one ever says why except 'it's normal' or 'it's nature'. What is this amazing parenting skill that can only be unlocked by two people if opposing genders?
What is this magical parenting quality that one male and one female parents have compared to two people of the same gender?
I keep hearing 'a child needs a Mum and a Dad' but no one ever says why except 'it's normal' or 'it's nature'. What is this amazing parenting skill that can only be unlocked by two people if opposing genders?
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The difference is they have a medical reason they cant have kids, not a lifestyle issue.
The only thing stopping a gay having a child is nature. Why should medical resources be wasted to circumvent this?
Why should adoption cues be made longer by someone who is physically able to reproduce?
Above all that, a child should be raised by a mother & a father.
The only thing stopping a gay having a child is nature. Why should medical resources be wasted to circumvent this?
Why should adoption cues be made longer by someone who is physically able to reproduce?
Above all that, a child should be raised by a mother & a father.
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A village people.
A village people.
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What's the Salvos attitude towards the Village People?
Oh boy. How many cases are there where children are abused by their biological mothers and fathers? But of course, that's the natural and optimal situation. Such a black and white statement!
I'm sure they're fine with them, unless they want to get married.
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Watching The Footy Show tonight
They had a 1994 flashback with Mark Jackson.
They gave Sam Newman grief for having plastic surgery but Eddie McGuire is almost as unrecognisable and it's very evident he has had plastic surgery as well.
They had a 1994 flashback with Mark Jackson.
They gave Sam Newman grief for having plastic surgery but Eddie McGuire is almost as unrecognisable and it's very evident he has had plastic surgery as well.
That difference is irrelevant to their child raising abilities though. If it's an 'above all' thing, then tell me exactly WHY a child needs to be raised by a mother and a father. What is the benefit?
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You dont think nature got it right? (procreation)
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I think he's had some chin implants.
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No, he's just fat but he's had some work done.
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You're saying the best way to raise a child, is for the mother to do it alone (or with other females) , while the father knocks up as many females as he can?
Nature did it every possible way, as nature always does. It never settled on the `right way` to procreate. Do you walk around barefoot and naked, as that is the way nature intended, and is therefore the `right way`?
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Well considering the Village People can't stop the music. And the Salvos love tambourines so much I'd say there with them all the way to the YMCA.
I think the 'nature' argument is a cop out. Nature also wants us to hunt and gather. Children are traditionally raised by a group of women. I'd say a lesbian couple raising a kid is more like nature than a stay at home Dad. The argument is just bogus.
I dont think 'nature got it wrong', I think that the argument is irrelevant.
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