List Mgmt. 2016 Trade and Free Agency Targets Inner Sanctum Thread. Part 3

[Rors]

I say we just let our young players develop & watch them become the next Fyfe, Martin, Mitchell, Hodge, JPK etc

Richo is the best developer in the game. Have faith

 

[mighty_sainters]

Fyfe is 25, I'd give him the blank cheque book.

 

[12Chill]

i dont think thats harsh on luke, its the reality of the situation!!!

i dont think its a case of luke not being about to play another position as he played HBF for the best u18 side in his year. he has also shown he can play the armo type role resting fwd. the only shock when we picked him up for those who only watched the state champs was that he was thrown into the middle straight away when we picked him up. the reason why luke has a very low TOG% is because he just doesnt have the tank to play any longer.

lets be honest here, if luke does not improve that tank and cannot lift his time on ground then he's quickly going to find other players go past him. if luke wants a long AFL career he'd be wanting to improve that tank ASAP

I reckon he's going to come into 2017 with a much improved tank- similar to Membrey hurting his shoulder and focusing on running for extensive periods last pre-season, Dunstan will have to do the same and he'll greatly benefit from that. Had some huge quarters this year, just a matter of getting 20-25 touches most weeks rather than 15-20.

 

[bird_man]

I'd be more interested in Kelly TBH than a dusty as Kelly is more the type we need and is a toung gun.Will also be cheaper and could be one of the best mods in the future for sure

Except Dusty will be a FA

 

[Rors]

Except Dusty will be a FA

Until the Tigers match the offer, then we'll have to trade anyway

 

[gringo2011]

He's a different player to Dunstan. As I've said a few times, he's a similar player to Acres, with similar stats and similarly having to play out of position. Imagine how outraged we'd be if Acres wanted to go to WC and they offered us pick 45!?

I was obviously a bit bored and watch a whole lot of NEAFL games to see him on YouTube. He's a very good player at that level but he's not exciting like Blake. He's more meat and potatoes than Acres possibly more consistent though. He should be a good player but he's not as exciting as some are making out. I'm not trying to be a downer but I think he should be seen as a project not a ready made gun or we will have a scape goat on our hands when he doesn't play like Ablett from day one.

 

[StCicatriz]

Next year.

O.M.G. i'd much rather throw big money at kelly and another young gun than 1 fyfe or martin

 

[AuntieBarrels]

omg if we SOMEHOW get j kelly... we're definitely up there as contendors when we acquire his services, no doubt about it

in a few years, that guy is gonna be the best player in the league absolute jet

 

[pebblesofsand]

Rule 1 of Saints Big Footy states

"Every player on our list must be a gun"

 

[Glen Buterol]

O.M.G. i'd much rather throw big money at kelly and another young gun than 1 fyfe or martin

Kelly for 2 firsts & Fyfe AND Dusty as FA's. why not get all three of the campaigners?

 

[Kilroy]

Sammy D ‏@sjd_31
@BrettAndersonIF what are your thoughts on Steele to St Kilda? What do you think will get the trade done?

Brett Anderson ‏@BrettAndersonIF
sjd_31 Maybe 46 if GWS are generous...if not a future pick.

Edit: I guess he means 47 now.

 

[Rors]

O.M.G. i'd much rather throw big money at kelly and another young gun than 1 fyfe or martin

Kelly & Hopper next year...

 

[StCicatriz]

i'm gonna have to come with a OOC/FA 2017 list

 

[JG22]

If Ameet plays hard ball....
Pick 46 if not future second

 

[CursingFijian]

He's unfortunately slower when chasing opponents than when the ball is on offer, also. It needs to be the other way around.

I know that sounds harsh, and it's an easy comment to make from the stands. But he can look to be running hard to be an option, but then looks absolutely exhausted and out on his feet with wobbly legs while chasing opponents. A game built on pressure needs only one weak link to fall apart. Even one poor effort in he front half can lead to overlap and a goal at the other end.

A lot of this is about fitness, and he hasn't had a clean run at it. I hope it's not attitude, but there's no point speculating as that's something we really don't know.

His strengths are amazing, though. A great kick, left foot and right. Good overhead (although we need to see more of it). And very very clever.

I have no doubt that Billings will be a very very good player once he builds the fitness to work harder (particularly defensively). Star potential, if we give the kid some time!

We used to vilify Ross for the same lack of pace, but not anymore. I think Billings will come good, he just hasn't come on as quickly and as completely as we would have liked. But I am very confident that JB will work hard, like Seb did, and that he will play a key role in our next GF.


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[CHBench]

I reckon if GWS can squeeze out overs from Carlton, they'll let us off and accept 46

 

[Lightsxo]

Really hope we're campaigners and get him for #46.

Let's be honest, GWS don't exactly need more decent picks.

 

[austinnn]

Really hope we're campaigners and get him for #46.

Let's be honest, GWS don't exactly need more decent picks.

Except once again we've shown interest too early, gone public and are now pressured into taking him, whatever the deal. Imagine the melt here and media reaction if we try to play hardball and lose.

 

[Lightsxo]

Except once again we've shown interest too early, gone public and are now pressured into taking him, whatever the deal. Imagine the melt here and media reaction if we try to play hardball and lose.

Very hard not to go public when the bloke nominates you lol.

I don't think it's that serious. We'all try to be campaigners and say #46.

GWS will either say alright you pricks take him or too naff off and we get him for 2017 second rounder.

Either of those is still a win for us

 

[goodie23]

We'll be fine. Just remember the Bruce trade:

Western Sydney wanted 24 for him, we wanted to give 41. We traded 24 to Hawthorn, they changed their request to 25 (Dal compensation pick). There was debate, discussion, arguments and posturing for almost the whole trade period.

Final day of trading, they came to us agreeing to take 41 to get the deal done and since he was out of contract. Too late, it had already been shipped off to Brissie with 25 for Longer. They had to take 48 which we got back in the Longer deal and they never ended up using.

We stuck to our guns and got the deal done. It's trickier now with future trading, gives them more options to demand but at least this time we're not dealing with Dodo Brain whinging to the media every five minutes.

 

[Mat Mann]

Wouldn't even expect the deal to be done by Thursday either, too many picks and players in that air to commit early, seems to be our MO ATM We'll commit to take him but leave it till late to finalise the deal.

Good get tho #gosaints

 

[lethalsaints]

He's the pacy outside skilled mid that we would slot perfectly into the side....he's the one I would throw a lot of money at (along with Shiel) to get him, (them), to come to the Saints...

Both guns. I reckon Kelly is a brownlow winner in the future.

 

[Persevering Saint]

Trade Whisperer now claims that his sources are telling him that Travis Close may seek to leave the pies and that he is looking to join the Bulldogs #breakingnews #whispers

Aha! So the trade whisperer's secret identity had now been revealed to be...

Sandra Sully.

 

[Saint believer]

Except once again we've shown interest too early, gone public and are now pressured into taking him, whatever the deal. Imagine the melt here and media reaction if we try to play hardball and lose.

After their tough love with Freo last year going so wrong I suspect GWS will talk hard but do not want another McCarthy type dead end this year.

Looking at the Steele highlights (yes I realised they are the glamour shots) I liked the fact he could both push or weave through traffic and also that he could deliver the ball to a forward or through the goals so beautifully. Being a contested beast and a beautiful attacking player by foot would see him come straight into the best 22.

A tough problem is we probably have about 28 pushing for the 22 which is lovely to see and was not even the case in 1997 or around 2009.


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[The_Steadier]

Really hope we're campaigners and get him for #46.

Let's be honest, GWS don't exactly need more decent picks.

They and gold coast will continue to be the golden goose losing players every year.

It's best we keep things amicable with them.

If future 2nd is fine by them... It's fine by us.