Strategy Trade and List Management thread 3 (...The pining for the departed. Edition)

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Collingwood. Ha Ha ha. First a Dogs premiership and now this, 2016 is the year that just keeps giving

And we are concerned about our performance during the trade period. Happy to be quiet than create the piecemeal mess that Hines and Buckley have done.

 

[Wizard17]

What the **** are collingwood doing

Becoming Norf 2.0?

 

[stefoid]

Yeah, except for the fact that he played 22 games this year, and was better than Roberts and Hamling in pretty much every statistical category by a wide margin, and very very rarely makes a mistake with the football, going at 89% efficiency.

Not to mention he would probably be dirt cheap to get if he was available.

Its fairly easy to be a smartass tosser and diss out someone else's discussion point when you're not raising your own. Glad you're not recruiting either.

Chops point is we are retiring 3 players from our backline within a 24mnth period anyway, so adding a 4th is bad list management. thats hard to argue against. Wed be better off getting as many games as our win/loss ratio can bear into our young tall backs. If we need an extra warm body to hopefully spend that period in the reserves as a 'break-glass' play, then make him a young player who may improve rather than decline and retire.

 

[jdz101]

Becoming Norf 2.0?

Trying to assemble the Dees half back line that used to get slaughtered by 60+ week in, week out?

Howe - tick
Dunn - tick
Grimes next?

 

[Chops]

So you're responding with zero suggestions and a whole bunch of general tripe about our past coach, which has no relevance, whilst I'm suggesting a player and actually using statistics from the past year to back it up, yet I need to use my brain?

Is that your best return?

ok it's a great idea then!

 

[Chops]

What the **** are collingwood doing

what you want us to do.
Grabbing old has beens

 

[stefoid]

Wonder if we might throw our hat in the ring if Cockatoo becomes available? Dally is/was a big rap for him.

youre incorrigible

 

[Pannalstaroz]

It was him after TMP at pick 6 right? How's he been travelling? Haven't noticed him much.

Yes

 

[BulldogJake]

Trying to assemble the Dees half back line that used to get slaughtered by 60+ week in, week out?

Howe - tick
Dunn - tick
Grimes next?

Hasn't grimes already been shown the door?

 

[jdz101]

what you want us to do.
Grabbing old has beens

Old has beens that would immediately push hamling and roberts out of the side and not let them back in.

I guess I'll apologize for suggesting a player that's over 25 in the trade thread and never do it again for fear of spuds like you jumping on every word.

 

[jdz101]

Hasn't grimes already been shown the door?

I meant more like the dees of a few years back.

 

[murphy2bedabest]

We can't trade out this and next year's first rounder.
The 2 in 4 rule for first rounders (as set by the AFL).

PS - Pearce is probably ranked about 2 or 3 in terms of importance to their list. They rate him that highly.

Is thought it was as long as you got a 1rd back in that time

so getting back a 1st rounder this year would allow us to do that trade

 

[TMoney22]

He is right though. Of all the midfields, Melbourne's is the one most likely IMO to approach our hardness and contested ability over the next couple of years. We should rightly be wary of them. He (Lewis) would also likely morph into a clearance/midfield coaching role (on-field initially) much like JC has for us. Good move for Melbourne and Lewis($$$$ plus post playing options).

And he could easily play the Matty Boyd role at half back.

 

[jdz101]

Chops point is we are retiring 3 players from our backline within a 24mnth period anyway, so adding a 4th is bad list management. thats hard to argue against. Wed be better off getting as many games as our win/loss ratio can bear into our young tall backs. If we need an extra warm body to hopefully spend that period in the reserves as a 'break-glass' play, then make him a young player who may improve rather than decline and retire.

It wasn't his point, it was getting called stupid right off the bat that drew my ire more than anything else.

 

[immortalmike]

It wasn't his point, it was getting called stupid right off the bat that drew my ire more than anything else.

That's just Ernie's way. He grows on you like a wart or a tumour.

 

[Chops]

It wasn't his point, it was getting called stupid right off the bat that drew my ire more than anything else.

I never called you stupid , more a stupid suggestion.
I originally just said no to recruiting a pensioner.

 

[Dogsman16]

I never called you stupid , more a stupid suggestion.
I originally just said no to recruiting a pensioner.

I hope the people who are the for Adams staying camp aren't the same ones who are rubbishing the Lonergan idea.

Take age out of the equation. If we got Tom Lonergan he's probably more likely to play more games for the Dogs than Adams is.

Adams is pretty much out the door. We won a premiership this year and he's still happy to leave. If either of Adams or Lonergan is full back next year then I'm 99% confident that we'd have to replace them anyway.

 

[stefoid]

It wasn't his point, it was getting called stupid right off the bat that drew my ire more than anything else.

He could have got to know you first, but he was just saving time.


ha hahahaha ha, I kid , I kid, I couldnt resist!

 

[Gollo]

Hamling gone for a second rounder (essentially). Hammer + 40 + 63 for 35 + 43 + 61

 

[Igloo]

http://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/2016-10-18/hamling-deal-done-

The Western Bulldogs have today secured pick 35 from Fremantle, in exchange for defender Joel Hamling.

The Club has also received Fremantle’s picks 43 and 61, in exchange for picks 40 and 63.

 

[Pannalstaroz]

Hamling for 35 and a swap of others. Not a bad result but a shame we couldn't get Pearce.

 

[Bemoreboyddog]

Finally, a deal done. Hopefully sort Stevens out tonight as well.

 

[Yojimbo]

How will Richards playing for Footscray open the door for Cordy to move into defence?

How is recruiting a young mobile 195 cm tall back/fwd who averaged
1.3 goals this year (More than certain well paid players) a bad thing.
And Cordy replaces Hamling down back and if Adams wants to go,
let him go those homesick things never end well.

 

[Sentinel]

http://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/2016-10-18/hamling-deal-done-

The Western Bulldogs have today secured pick 35 from Fremantle, in exchange for defender Joel Hamling.

The Club has also received Fremantle’s picks 43 and 61, in exchange for picks 40 and 63.

With that, surely the Cloke deal goes through now for pick 61.

 

[CaptainMurphy]

Don't see why we had to downgrade our second as well. 35 straight shouldn't have been enough.