Play Nice 45th President of the United States - Donald Trump (continued in Part 2)

[VineyIsLORD]

This captures everyone though.

Oh, and if you got US citizenship, tough shit

Wait that doesnt even make sense.

Dual citizens dont need visas. It literally makes no sense to impose a visa ban on people who dont need them.

 

[campbell]

Yep, hes unhinged.

ever so slightly.

dual visa holder swho are citizens, green card holders. WTF.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

 

[freebloke]

Dual citizens? That's shit crazy! Some dude signed up to US citizenship and been living in the US for 20 years, goes on a trip snd comes back to find he can't go from the airport to his [emoji537]!

 

[Ned_Flanders]

Wait that doesnt even make sense.

Dual citizens dont need visas. It literally makes no sense to impose a visa ban on people who dont need them.

It actually does. You dont always travel with two passports. For mid east (for example its easier with an iraqi one that a us or israeli one)

A lot of my friends who are dual only travel to china with an Australian passport because if they have a chinese one they know they will be treated by the govt as a local (ie no consular protection)

 

[Messenger]

Wait that doesnt even make sense.

Dual citizens dont need visas. It literally makes no sense to impose a visa ban on people who dont need them.

Correct. Some of the details are being worked out even as the EO is enforced. WH didn't tell State dept.

Dual citizens? That's shit crazy! Some dude signed up to US citizenship and been living in the US for 20 years, goes on a trip snd comes back to find he can't go from the airport to his [emoji537]!

They aren't being allowed to board their planes.

 

[VineyIsLORD]

It actually does. You dont always travel with two passports. For mid east (for example its easier with an iraqi one that a us or israeli one)

A lot of my friends who are dual only travel to china with an Australian passport because if they have a chinese one they know they will be treated by the govt as a local (ie no consular protection)

Most countries require you to travel on their passport when entering or exiting if you are a citizen and wont issue a visa on that basis. I dont know about China but Australia wont issue visas for people who are Aussie citizens and hold a passport for another country. They require you to enter/exit on your Australian passport.

Source: dual citizen

 

[Ned_Flanders]

Most countries require you to travel on their passport when entering or exiting if you are a citizen and wont issue a visa on that basis. I dont know about China but Australia wont issue visas for people who are Aussie citizens and hold a passport for another country. They require you to enter/exit on your Australian passport.

Source: dual citizen

Dont know for australia, but i know its rife everywhere else

Key is you cannot have you chinese or us or israeli passport on you (in my examples). If you do, they will insist that one be used

 

[VineyIsLORD]

Correct. Some of the details are being worked out even as the EO is enforced. WH didn't tell State dept.




They aren't being allowed to board their planes.

Policy on the fly is bad enough when its Turnbull having a brain fart about GST.

Trump is just straight up passing laws on the fly without consulting the people who actually implement laws and run the country. Disaster.

 

[VineyIsLORD]

Dont know for australia, but i know its rife everywhere else

Key is you cannot have you chinese or us or israeli passport on you (in my examples). If you do, they will insist that one be used

Yeah exactly. China probably doesnt have a system as interconnected as most, so you could probably get away with it. But Australia and the other Anglo nations share a lot of info, so for a dual Aussie/American they will oftwn fly out on the Aussie passport and when they land in the USA use their American one.

Israelis often just use their Aussie one the whole time. Malaysians do the opposite. Because in Malaysia you can have your assets seized for being a dual citizen. You will find lots of Malay Aussies fly to KL via a third country to try and hide their status.

 

[LeverPuller]

Correct. Some of the details are being worked out even as the EO is enforced. WH didn't tell State dept.




They aren't being allowed to board their planes.

How the **** do they enforce that?

 

[Ned_Flanders]

Yeah exactly. China probably doesnt have a system as interconnected as most, so you could probably get away with it. But Australia and the other Anglo nations share a lot of info, so for a dual Aussie/American they will oftwn fly out on the Aussie passport ans when they land in the USA use their American one.

Israelis often just use their Aussie one the whole time. Malaysians also. Because in Malaysia you can have your assets seized for being a dual citizen.

Ah, THAT you cannot do. As i said, you must stay on one passport the entire time. Leave with the x one arrive with the x one

You cannot pick and mix, because your passport details wont match those tied to your travel.

 

[VineyIsLORD]

Ah, THAT you cannot do. As i said, you must stay on one passport the entire time. Leave with the x one arrive with the x one

You cannot pick and mix, because your passport details wont match those tied to your travel.

You can if you transit or have a short stopover in say, Singapore

 

[Happy Mastenator]

So trump is who he is. A terrible human being. Or are we still supposed to be waiting and giving him a chance?

 

[VineyIsLORD]

So trump is who he is. A terrible human being. Or are we still supposed to be waiting and giving him a chance?

Most politicians are awful people.

Trump is also woefully inept and completely out of his depth. He doesnt understand even the absolute basics of how democracy works.

He is a spoiled rich turd with no real world skills or experience.

 

[Gough]

So how long will it be before the first conservative in the Liberal Party here suggest we follow suit here? It's at this point we thank the deity of choice that Tony Abbott was bound by Parliament. This is how conservatives roll.

 

[campbell]

So how long will it be before the first conservative in the Liberal Party here suggest we follow suit here? It's at this point we thank the deity of choice that Tony Abbott was bound by Parliament. This is how conservatives roll.

or in Qld we have an election due soonish, how about Pauline Hansen stiring up the hatred of the voters....

 

[Elroo]

Russian spy dude rumoured to be the main source for the pee pee party papers has been killed in russia

Dedrie Chambers!

http://www.news.com.au/world/europe...w/news-story/2f09fe637d692769d260d1f3fd603ddd

Russian spy Oleg Erovinkin linked to Donald Trump’s ‘dirty dossier’ found dead in Moscow
January 29, 20178:06am

A FORMER KGB spy chief suspected of helping Brit spook Christopher Steele compile the Donald Trump ‘dirty dossier’ has been found dead in mysterious circumstances.

The Sun reports that Oleg Erovinkin, described as a key source behind the widely discredited document, was found dead in the back of his car in Moscow on Boxing Day.

Media reports in Russia suggest his death was the result of foul play, reports the Telegraph.

A former general in the intelligence agency the KBG and its successor the FSB, Erovinkin was reportedly a key aide to former deputy prime minister Igor Sechin.

Erovinkin acted as a ‘go-between’ for Russian Presdident Vladimir Putin and Mr Sechin who is now head of the state-owned oil company Rosneft, it has been reported.

Mr Sechin was named several times in the dossier which contained lurid and unverified allegations against US President Donald Trump.

Former MI6 spy Steele reportedly claimed that he had a source close to Mr Sechin in an intelligence report from July last year.

Christopher Steele the British spy who allegedly wrote dossier on Donald Trump. Picture: SuppliedSource:Supplied

Erovinkin’s death has prompted speculation that it was linked to the sensational document, reports the Telegraph.

Russian news agency RIA Novosti news agency reports his body was “found in a black Lexus … a large-scale investigation has been commenced in the area.

“Erovinkin’s body was sent to the FSB morgue”.

While no cause of death has been confirmed, some reports have claimed he died as a result of a heart attack.

Christo Grozev, an expert in Russian espionage, writes in his blog that he believes Erovinkin was the key source in Steele’s dossier.

He also claims he has “no doubt” that Mr Putin would have had the document on his desk at the time of Erovinkin’s death.

 

[Messenger]

How the **** do they enforce that?

The airlines enforce it for them.

If you're Lufthansa, Emirates, Air Canada,etc you can't thumb your nose at the policy change. You risk your landing rights in the US.

 

[Bradesmaen]

It;s funny because it's home grown terrorists committing the acts, not refugees.

 

[campbell]

It;s funny because it's home grown terrorists committing the acts, not refugees.

watch out all the hate crimes will start. slippery slope just got greased up real bad.

can't see this ending well for anyone really.

 

[Bradesmaen]

watch out all the hate crimes will start. slippery slope just got greased up real bad.

can't see this ending well for anyone really.

He hasnt even included Pakistan or Afghanistan which is where AQ were for a long time and probably still have a lot of people...

 

[Messenger]

 

[SBYM]

So trump is who he is. A terrible human being. Or are we still supposed to be waiting and giving him a chance?

He'll come good any day now.

 

[Elroo]

Myself and my family only yesterday have applied for a Visa Waiver to enter the US later this year, will how that goes for us!