Training Training Reports, Pics 2017

[Jabba73]

The list is where it is won and lost..
we dont have an academy with available recruits
our northern side has also been turned over every year and average,
We have stopped quick fixes and playing off a few elites..
We have a coach who trains the boys hard with a contemporary game plan......taking what we can
SOS will keep turning over the list..at least for another two years
Its going to be training and recruitment....perhaps for the sake of stability only short term
Like Bolts said reward for effort...we have a great club and faith should not be an issue

Need some continuity in the list as well, 15 new players every year is not helpful to the team learning each others playing style etc. It is needed now to fix the recruiting (and possibly development) issues from years past, cannot go on forever. Hoping after the 2017 trading and post season we will see a drop off to about 6-8 new players per year. It will mean we have the right mix, just need to replace those retiring and tweaking the areas we need to improve.

3 years of slash and burn might be enough.

 

[ShanDog]

I don't share your same optimism Shan. The worst aspect of his game is his unwillingness to put his head over the footy when its his turn to go. I saw him pull out of at least two contests in 2016 when he was going to get body contact.

Yeah that's the sort of thing I am talking about though - it's mental. The skills are there, it's just application of those skills that is required.

 

[F_therest]

Boekhorst is Kane Lucas 2.0.

The previous recruitment regime wholly ignored the mental aspects of the game, hence we acquired a bunch of skillful, yet lacking draftees. The new bunch seem to have their head screwed on the right way.

Definitely and it's just so ridiculous when you look back at it that they didn't learn...

Others that fall into this category include other top picks...Bootsma, Watson, Yarran, Menzel, Jaksch...all talented but all lacking in the mental aspects of the game. Just so, so bad.

 

[__Bobcat__]

Yeah that's the sort of thing I am talking about though - it's mental. The skills are there, it's just application of those skills that is required.

It's time for one of two things!

Time for a can of concrete, to harden the #%£€ up.

Or, off to the house of mirrors, for a long hard look at yourself!!!!!

 

[Juddafideslenko]

I don't share your same optimism Shan. The worst aspect of his game is his unwillingness to put his head over the footy when its his turn to go. I saw him pull out of at least two contests in 2016 when he was going to get body contact.

Yes, i remember you saying this quite recently.
Didn't you say that he pulled out once, not at least twice?
Nevermind, maybe a team mate called him out of the contest?

 

[Jabba73]

It's time for one of two things!

Time for a can of concrete, to harden the #%£€ up.

Or, off to the house of mirrors, for a long hard look at yourself!!!!!

I'll get a mirror and look into it.

 

[ShanDog]

It's time for one of two things!

Time for a can of concrete, to harden the #%£€ up.

Or, off to the house of mirrors, for a long hard look at yourself!!!!!

Nah I'm good.

 

[thylacine60]

Boekhorst is Kane Lucas 2.0.

Struggling to argue with this.

 

[__Bobcat__]

I'll get a mirror and look into it.

Luna park shags!!!

Every option covered!!!

Go there!

 

[__Bobcat__]

Struggling to argue with this.

Kids from WA,
Hey,

Wait A While!

 

[Jabba73]

Struggling to argue with this.

Has one more season to prove he isn't.

 

[__Bobcat__]

Has one more season to prove he isn't.

It's time for one of two things!

Time for a can of concrete, to harden the #%£€ up.

Or, off to the house of mirrors, for a long hard look at yourself!!!!!

Time to Toss the coin then!!!

 

[ShanDog]

WHY ARE YOU ALWAYS SHOUTING?!

 

[Jabba73]

WHY ARE YOU ALWAYS SHOUTING?!

Scotch and coke for me thanks.

 

[Bluey24]

Boekhorst is Kane Lucas 2.0.

The previous recruitment regime wholly ignored the mental aspects of the game, hence we acquired a bunch of skillful, yet lacking draftees. The new bunch seem to have their head screwed on the right way.

I called it on here the day we recruited him and I was hung out to dry!!

Just saying.......

 

[zeeCFC]

I'm still a fan, hoping he takes Thomas' spot in the 22 that we always have reserved for some reason.

 

[ShanDog]

Scotch and coke for me thanks.

A man after my own heart.

 

[Manchego Cheese]

Not sure when you saw these two plays, but I will say Boekhorst really struggled when he came back after that wrist injury.
You could see he was really trying to protect it and he just looked nothing like the player who had 32 damaging touches Vs the Swans in a NAB cup game.
Really hoping he can make it, our midfield is in major need of players with leg speed and kicking skills.

32 touches in a game played at 75% intensity just about sums him up.

 

[RedFury]

I will watch him in the NBs, I will assess him, I will promote him at the appropriate time.

Thanks Bolts!

(I always thought the "60" represented your birth year, now I realise it's height, in inches.)

 

[SafeAsMilk]

I'm not writing anyone off yet. The club is in a process of lifting the culture to elite standards, as well as improving leadership. There will be player(s) who respond to the new culture who may have fallen by the wayside in previous years. These are young men who still need to be taught discipline at a higher standard than previously. Higher standards will improve players we thought didn't have it in them to play AFL football. We just don't have the luxury of players walking into an environment like Hawthorn or Sydney to fast track their development.




........well ok Jones is a write-off.

 

[ParapMarkets]

We've done it for the last three years and we have a fourth one on its way.
2014: 12
2015: 15
2016: 12 (13 really but then we took on Gallucci again)

Minimum 10 players and possibly 13 again.

I'm not convinced we will be turning the list over quite so aggressively going forward. We already don't have a second round pick, and very little trading commodities (that we would want to get rid of). It's all good and well to say we need a big turnover, but how do we get better players for peanuts?

Part of the reason we have turned so many over in the past few years is because we have accepted salary dumps from GWS for a better trading price on our long term targets. With our youngsters maturing I think we will target more confirmed talent and use the extra resources to secure our young stars long term.

 

[Bluey24]

I'm not convinced we will be turning the list over quite so aggressively going forward. We already don't have a second round pick, and very little trading commodities (that we would want to get rid of). It's all good and well to say we need a big turnover, but how do we get better players for peanuts?

Part of the reason we have turned so many over in the past few years is because we have accepted salary dumps from GWS for a better trading price on our long term targets. With our youngsters maturing I think we will target more confirmed talent and use the extra resources to secure our young stars long term.

If Gibbs leaves, we trade out our 2018 first-rounder, a few blue baggers have breakout seasons....... there's 3-4 first-rounders on the trade table.

And that's without getting too creative

 

[COBALT BLUE]

We are in for another big clean out this year......we have huge B grade depth..it might be 11 or even 13 who knows but we got people signing off and even some possibly who may still want to move on[Gibbs]..
We wont even clean out properly and following year will see another easy 10....an indication of our B grade woes are summarised in our Northern results,please dont underestimate the significance of these results...woeful
{SOS already has and will continue to have a field day}..we needed help and got it,and now we are trying to invigorate a new team across the board,via appropriate means.What does this all mean?.....it means a lot of work...i think look at SOS's body language in his interviews will give you the message.
We have already seen guys like Marchbank and Pickett willing to join us at Carlton...we will attract much better players soon and for less.

 

[thylacine60]

Kids from WA,
Hey,

Wait A While!

Think it's more than a 3 hour thing.

 

[HARKER]

I'm not convinced we will be turning the list over quite so aggressively going forward. We already don't have a second round pick, and very little trading commodities (that we would want to get rid of). It's all good and well to say we need a big turnover, but how do we get better players for peanuts?

Part of the reason we have turned so many over in the past few years is because we have accepted salary dumps from GWS for a better trading price on our long term targets. With our youngsters maturing I think we will target more confirmed talent and use the extra resources to secure our young stars long term.

That's clearly a very good point and one I used to excess last year, when people were talking about moving on contracted players, Jones, Jaksch etc.
We ultimately retained Buckley & Graham also, for this very reason.

This is the wrong thread to discuss this in depth but it won't be difficult for SOS to clear at least 10 players....................one way or another.