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Opinion I've lost my faith in Ken Hinkley

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However, Hinkley said his side did stick to its method and was pleased his players didn't retreat from the game plan as Adelaide piled on the pressure during the second and third terms.

"We stuck to what we were trying to do and we still weren't good enough to get over the line," he said.

A bit concerning, considering most have put our loss down to the players not following the plan and structure. Apparently they did.
Just wildly kicking it out the danger zone, this is game plan :eek:
 
I'd suggest our players absolutely retreated from the game plan, unless "Close your eyes and jam it on the boot to an outnumbered contest" was part of the game plan we'd been hiding all season just waiting to unleash it after quarter time on an unsuspecting Crows outfit.

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We really showed them with or surprise attack!

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It is possible they tried to stick with the game plan but couldnt do it, which to me implies like every team you need another gear to change until you get back to level terms.
We need to find a way to score the odd goal or two against the run of play but we just can't do it. Score one or two during the crows 7 across 2/3rd Q and we are in the game at the end.
 

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It is possible they tried to stick with the game plan but couldnt do it, which to me implies like every team you need another gear to change until you get back to level terms.
We need to find a way to score the odd goal or two against the run of play but we just can't do it. Score one or two during the crows 7 across 2/3rd Q and we are in the game at the end.

Yep. Good teams don't get dominated for whole quarters like we do semi regularly. Last night said to me that we've improved but not enough to be a top end contender.

We are so poor at generating chains of uncontested possessions. When things are going against us, we lack the ability to just slow the game down and work the ball methodically, hence the long bombs to our outnumbered forwards on the wing. I can't see us being a good team until we fix this part of our game.
 
Yep. Good teams don't get dominated for whole quarters like we do semi regularly. Last night said to me that we've improved but not enough to be a top end contender.

We are so poor at generating chains of uncontested possessions. When things are going against us, we lack the ability to just slow the game down and work the ball methodically, hence the long bombs to our outnumbered forwards on the wing. I can't see us being a good team until we fix this part of our game.

just home and have read most of the reviews etc and not with hindsight, 'cleaner skills' is the standout for mine which comes to your comment bolded.

I thought Ports handpassing was mostly atrocious last night and when there was an opportunity to break free and create run, handballs went to a player's feet, behind them, over their head and seldom to their advantage.

The opportunities were there to create a chain but skills again failed Port and so often gave ball control back to that other mob.
 
Is this thread really going to get bumped every time we lose?


Depends on how we lose. If it is because you let Hartlett and Westhoof run loose, and unaccountable, so the opposition know they just have to hunt the ball and spills and loose kicks will in most instances go to their 2 spare players who are in the contest, then yes, it is poor coaching

Loose man is one thing, 2 loose men relies on a play on strategy that overlaps their loose man, and having extremely high DE and their DE being lower than normal.

If your own DE is low and you retain the loose man in defense they will press, always have 2 free at the contest and eat you alive

Then if you empty your own forward line out like we do and nullify the loose man and play in their hands. If our DE isn't 100% they will get most loose balls

Its why we saw them having 5 loose players everywhere. They weren't everywhere, just 2 always at the ball (their players ran harder all night) while our 2 were way back in defenseland...somewhere

Then we don't even make players wear Betts and Walker like a glove

Really, it was coaching that the board should ask questions about last night

ken keeps trying to be clever against the crows going away from what works, and it bites us big time, every time
 
Spotlight right back him now. 2-2. With both our wins being against ****ing shit sides, lets be honest. (not that we knew that at the start of the season)
2 losses against sides that are going to be at the pointy end. Right in the middle? Sounds familiar for this man.
 
It appears Ken doesn't learn from his mistakes... Wash, Rinse repeat with him.

Ryder back next week will help, but we need another tall to cover for Hombsch. How frigging hard is it? I guess none of us here know anything about how AFL is played.
 

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The thing that makes it a little bit more difficult with Ken is that he still hasn't lost the players. We give great effort but for a multitude of different reasons, including coaching, we just aren't good enough. At some point a call has to be made because we can't just toil away as a mediocre team that is close but not close enough for eternity.
 

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Can see two Black Diamond memberships being freed up for next year, perhaps even after Shanghai.

Can spend the $2,000 plus elsewhere.
 
So we think that Austin would have done better on Patton do we?

Clurey wasn't the problem. It came down to the complete and utter loss of shape in our front half which allowed easy ****ing ball off of half back and across to the other wing. How easy did they transition in that last? But yeah, Eddy would have really helped with that.

We did fine for three quarters, but as soon as our players started to tire after playing in a Showdown the week before and couldn't get across, GWS exploited the space and Patton started to get the one on ones with Clurey that they were looking for.

Austin wouldn't have made the difference. Eddy wouldn't have made the difference. What would have made the difference is a) playing Ryder to give us easy ball out of centre clearances (every mid was down today) b) playing Hombsch on Patton (a far better defender than Clurey) c) not playing GWS when they are still full of run at the start of the season d) not playing GWS after a Showdown e) not playing GWS away.

Can see two Black Diamond memberships being freed up for next year, perhaps even after Shanghai.

Can spend the $2,000 plus elsewhere.

See ya later.
 
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