List Mgmt. Trade & F.A. 2017 (if a scenario sounds wrong - read on before posting)

[Apex36]

Pyeman on EbnW also said it a few weeks back,lot of diff types not much depth also (Atm) doesn't appear any superstars, 2018 draft looks good. Brander Fogarty and Rayner not on same level as Judd/Hodge draft.









Personally I still think Fogarty and Brander have potential gun written all over them.

When was the last draft that was on the same level as that though? I'd still regard it as the best draft ever so far.

 

[legendstatus]

By the time the season finishes it'll be the best draft in years


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[loki04]

When was the last draft that was on the same level as that though? I'd still regard it as the best draft ever so far.

Think he just meant not any stand out star types like a Hodge or Judd. Which recruiters knew full well going into the draft it was going to spit out genuine star types.

So it's not that no stars may eventuate, more there are no players standing out as stars yet. ie no freaks. just even types across the board at this stage.

Champ games can raise a players draft rating by alot so we will see then. I personally think there will be stars because there hasn't been a draft yet have 0 players who at least became a gun.

2002 and 2003 drafts aren't exactly good but even they had a couple right at the top who were elite. Needed to pick the right player or you got Buckleys.

Pick Player Club
1 Brendon Goddard Gippsland Power St Kilda
2 Daniel Wells Peel Thunder Kangaroos
3 Jared Brennan Southern Districts Brisbane Lions
4 Tim Walsh Northern Knights Western Bulldogs
5 Jarrad McVeigh NSW/ACT Rams Sydney Swans
6 Steven Salopek Dandenong Stingrays Port Adelaide
7 Andrew Mackie Glenelg Geelong
8 Luke Brennan North Ballarat Rebels Hawthorn
9 Hamish McIntosh Murray Bushrangers Kangaroos
10 Jason Laycock Tassie Mariners Essendon
11 Jason Winderlich Gippsland Power Essendon
12 Jay Schulz Woodville-West Torrens Richmond
13 Byron Schammer West Adelaide Fremantle
14 Daniel Bell Glenelg Melbourne
15 Nicholas Smith Norwood Melbourne
16 Stephen Gilham Oakleigh Chargers Port Adelaide
17 Cameron Faulkner Central District Western Bulldogs
18 Kris Shore Eastern Ranges Kangaroos
19 Troy Selwood Bendigo Pioneers Brisbane Lions
20 Will Minson Norwood Western Bulldogs
21 Bo Nixon Calder Cannons Collingwood
22 Matthew Ferguson Gippsland Power St Kilda
23 Tom Lonergan Calder Cannons Geelong
24 Paul Johnson Dandenong Stingrays West Coast Eagles
25 Callum Urch Western Jets Kangaroos

Round Pick Player Club
Priority 1 Adam Cooney West Adelaide Football Club Western Bulldogs
Priority 2 Andrew Walker Bendigo Pioneers Carlton
Priority 3 Colin Sylvia Bendigo Pioneers Melbourne
4 Farren Ray Peel Thunder Football Club Western Bulldogs
5 Brock McLean Calder Cannons Melbourne
6 Kepler Bradley West Perth Football Club Essendon
7 Kane Tenace Murray Bushrangers Geelong
8 Raphael Clarke St Mary's Football Club St Kilda
9 David Trotter Calder Cannons Kangaroos
10 Ryley Dunn Murray Bushrangers Fremantle
11 Beau Waters West Adelaide Football Club West Coast Eagles
12 Ryan Murphy Gippsland Power Fremantle
13 Brent Stanton Northern Knights Essendon
14 Fergus Watts Sandringham Dragons Adelaide Crows
15 Troy Chaplin North Ballarat Rebels Port Adelaide
16 Josh Willoughby Glenelg Football Club Sydney Swans
17 Billy Morrison Tassie Mariners Collingwood
18 Llane Spaanderman East Perth Football Club Brisbane Lions
19 David Mundy Murray Bushrangers Fremantle
20 Sam Butler Central District Bulldogs West Coast Eagles
21 Alex Gilmour Tassie Mariners Richmond
22 Cameron Thurley Tasmanian Devils Football Club Geelong
23 Matthew Moody South Fremantle Football Club Brisbane Lions
24 Chad Jones Claremont Football Club Kangaroos
25 Harry Miller Port Adelaide (SANFL) Hawthorn

Bugger me they were dud filled drafts. Hopefully this one coming is better then them.

 

[Apex36]

Think he just meant not any stand out star types like a Hodge or Judd. Which recruiters knew full well going into the draft it was going to spit out genuine star types.

So it's not that no stars may eventuate, more there are no players standing out as stars yet. ie no freaks. just even types across the board at this stage.

Champ games can raise a players draft rating by alot so we will see then. I personally think there will be stars because there hasn't been a draft yet have 0 players who at least became a gun.

2002 and 2003 drafts aren't exactly good but even they had a couple right at the top who were elite. Needed to pick the right player or you got Buckleys.

Pick Player Club
1 Brendon Goddard Gippsland Power St Kilda
2 Daniel Wells Peel Thunder Kangaroos
3 Jared Brennan Southern Districts Brisbane Lions
4 Tim Walsh Northern Knights Western Bulldogs
5 Jarrad McVeigh NSW/ACT Rams Sydney Swans
6 Steven Salopek Dandenong Stingrays Port Adelaide
7 Andrew Mackie Glenelg Geelong
8 Luke Brennan North Ballarat Rebels Hawthorn
9 Hamish McIntosh Murray Bushrangers Kangaroos
10 Jason Laycock Tassie Mariners Essendon
11 Jason Winderlich Gippsland Power Essendon
12 Jay Schulz Woodville-West Torrens Richmond
13 Byron Schammer West Adelaide Fremantle
14 Daniel Bell Glenelg Melbourne
15 Nicholas Smith Norwood Melbourne
16 Stephen Gilham Oakleigh Chargers Port Adelaide
17 Cameron Faulkner Central District Western Bulldogs
18 Kris Shore Eastern Ranges Kangaroos
19 Troy Selwood Bendigo Pioneers Brisbane Lions
20 Will Minson Norwood Western Bulldogs
21 Bo Nixon Calder Cannons Collingwood
22 Matthew Ferguson Gippsland Power St Kilda
23 Tom Lonergan Calder Cannons Geelong
24 Paul Johnson Dandenong Stingrays West Coast Eagles
25 Callum Urch Western Jets Kangaroos

Round Pick Player Club
Priority 1 Adam Cooney West Adelaide Football Club Western Bulldogs
Priority 2 Andrew Walker Bendigo Pioneers Carlton
Priority 3 Colin Sylvia Bendigo Pioneers Melbourne
4 Farren Ray Peel Thunder Football Club Western Bulldogs
5 Brock McLean Calder Cannons Melbourne
6 Kepler Bradley West Perth Football Club Essendon
7 Kane Tenace Murray Bushrangers Geelong
8 Raphael Clarke St Mary's Football Club St Kilda
9 David Trotter Calder Cannons Kangaroos
10 Ryley Dunn Murray Bushrangers Fremantle
11 Beau Waters West Adelaide Football Club West Coast Eagles
12 Ryan Murphy Gippsland Power Fremantle
13 Brent Stanton Northern Knights Essendon
14 Fergus Watts Sandringham Dragons Adelaide Crows
15 Troy Chaplin North Ballarat Rebels Port Adelaide
16 Josh Willoughby Glenelg Football Club Sydney Swans
17 Billy Morrison Tassie Mariners Collingwood
18 Llane Spaanderman East Perth Football Club Brisbane Lions
19 David Mundy Murray Bushrangers Fremantle
20 Sam Butler Central District Bulldogs West Coast Eagles
21 Alex Gilmour Tassie Mariners Richmond
22 Cameron Thurley Tasmanian Devils Football Club Geelong
23 Matthew Moody South Fremantle Football Club Brisbane Lions
24 Chad Jones Claremont Football Club Kangaroos
25 Harry Miller Port Adelaide (SANFL) Hawthorn

Bugger me they were dud filled drafts. Hopefully this one coming is better then them.

You'd hope so. Amazing that a super draft could be surrounded by such dud drafts

 

[loki04]

Could explain why we're into Schache then loki04.

Most likely is.

Schache has over all struggled but much like Moore doesn't have great forward support. In saying that Hipwood has outshone him in the same forward set up and being the same in age (19).

Think (without looking it up) these 200cm+ type fwds tend to take a bit longer to come on then the 194-197cm types.

I also query just how good some of these uber tall forwards (200cm types) are when they dominate u18 level usually against an opponent alot smaller then them.
They get to AFL and get an opponent much closer in height and tend to no longer be the dominant tall they were as a jnr.

Also we are yet to see any 200cm+ fwds be as dominant as Buddy or even Fev.

The closest we have is T.J.Lynch from GC (199cm), who's best goal kicking year was last season with 66 before that 40 and 44.

Tippett next best at 203cm 55 goal year back in 09 and since has been a mid 30s to mid 40s player.

People seemingly trying to shy away from a traditional sized FF/CHF types at 193-197cm. Recruiters all trying to find a dominant behemoth.

 

[TheSierBear]

Most likely is.

Schache has over all struggled but much like Moore doesn't have great forward support. In saying that Hipwood has outshone him in the same forward set up and being the same in age (19).

Think (without looking it up) these 200cm+ type fwds tend to take a bit longer to come on then the 194-197cm types.

I also query just how good some of these uber tall forwards (200cm types) are when they dominate u18 level usually against an opponent alot smaller then them.
They get to AFL and get an opponent much closer in height and tend to no longer be the dominant tall they were as a jnr.

Also we are yet to see any 200cm+ fwds be as dominant as Buddy or even Fev.

The closest we have is T.J.Lynch from GC (199cm), who's best goal kicking year was last season with 66 before that 40 and 44.

Tippett next best at 203cm 55 goal year back in 09 and since has been a mid 30s to mid 40s player.

People seemingly trying to shy away from a traditional sized FF/CHF types at 193-197cm. Recruiters all trying to find a dominant behemoth.

Haven't seen much of Hipwood but enough for me to say he might be the best of all the young forwards. Good analysis at #3079. Looking at that if 2017 pans out an average draft, I'd be happy to give up a high pick for Schache.

 

[TradeDraft]

There, you see, TradeDraft?

Glad we finally heard from Grundy Himself about it

 

[Horaceg]

By the time the season finishes it'll be the best draft in years


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The way we are going it will have to be

 

[legendstatus]

Not fussed on Younger Reid but if he decides to come home and pick Tigers over us, I'll spew!!!!!!


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[Quicky]

Not fussed on Younger Reid but if he decides to come home and pick Tigers over us, I'll spew!!!!!!


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Like Mario from Doncaster? Don't ruin the chanel dress!

 

[whiskeytown]

Think he just meant not any stand out star types like a Hodge or Judd. Which recruiters knew full well going into the draft it was going to spit out genuine star types.

So it's not that no stars may eventuate, more there are no players standing out as stars yet. ie no freaks. just even types across the board at this stage.

Champ games can raise a players draft rating by alot so we will see then. I personally think there will be stars because there hasn't been a draft yet have 0 players who at least became a gun.

2002 and 2003 drafts aren't exactly good but even they had a couple right at the top who were elite. Needed to pick the right player or you got Buckleys.

Pick Player Club
1 Brendon Goddard Gippsland Power St Kilda
2 Daniel Wells Peel Thunder Kangaroos
3 Jared Brennan Southern Districts Brisbane Lions
4 Tim Walsh Northern Knights Western Bulldogs
5 Jarrad McVeigh NSW/ACT Rams Sydney Swans
6 Steven Salopek Dandenong Stingrays Port Adelaide
7 Andrew Mackie Glenelg Geelong
8 Luke Brennan North Ballarat Rebels Hawthorn
9 Hamish McIntosh Murray Bushrangers Kangaroos
10 Jason Laycock Tassie Mariners Essendon
11 Jason Winderlich Gippsland Power Essendon
12 Jay Schulz Woodville-West Torrens Richmond
13 Byron Schammer West Adelaide Fremantle
14 Daniel Bell Glenelg Melbourne
15 Nicholas Smith Norwood Melbourne
16 Stephen Gilham Oakleigh Chargers Port Adelaide
17 Cameron Faulkner Central District Western Bulldogs
18 Kris Shore Eastern Ranges Kangaroos
19 Troy Selwood Bendigo Pioneers Brisbane Lions
20 Will Minson Norwood Western Bulldogs
21 Bo Nixon Calder Cannons Collingwood
22 Matthew Ferguson Gippsland Power St Kilda
23 Tom Lonergan Calder Cannons Geelong
24 Paul Johnson Dandenong Stingrays West Coast Eagles
25 Callum Urch Western Jets Kangaroos

Round Pick Player Club
Priority 1 Adam Cooney West Adelaide Football Club Western Bulldogs
Priority 2 Andrew Walker Bendigo Pioneers Carlton
Priority 3 Colin Sylvia Bendigo Pioneers Melbourne
4 Farren Ray Peel Thunder Football Club Western Bulldogs
5 Brock McLean Calder Cannons Melbourne
6 Kepler Bradley West Perth Football Club Essendon
7 Kane Tenace Murray Bushrangers Geelong
8 Raphael Clarke St Mary's Football Club St Kilda
9 David Trotter Calder Cannons Kangaroos
10 Ryley Dunn Murray Bushrangers Fremantle
11 Beau Waters West Adelaide Football Club West Coast Eagles
12 Ryan Murphy Gippsland Power Fremantle
13 Brent Stanton Northern Knights Essendon
14 Fergus Watts Sandringham Dragons Adelaide Crows
15 Troy Chaplin North Ballarat Rebels Port Adelaide
16 Josh Willoughby Glenelg Football Club Sydney Swans
17 Billy Morrison Tassie Mariners Collingwood
18 Llane Spaanderman East Perth Football Club Brisbane Lions
19 David Mundy Murray Bushrangers Fremantle
20 Sam Butler Central District Bulldogs West Coast Eagles
21 Alex Gilmour Tassie Mariners Richmond
22 Cameron Thurley Tasmanian Devils Football Club Geelong
23 Matthew Moody South Fremantle Football Club Brisbane Lions
24 Chad Jones Claremont Football Club Kangaroos
25 Harry Miller Port Adelaide (SANFL) Hawthorn

Bugger me they were dud filled drafts. Hopefully this one coming is better then them.

Enjoyed reading that til the sick feeling in my stomach from us taking Bo Nixon ahead of Tom Lonergan!

 

[Soups]

Enjoyed reading that til the sick feeling in my stomach from us taking Bo Nixon ahead of Tom Lonergan!

Should have taken Tom Longeron I always thought

 

[Obese Arachnid]

They didn't get caught and have to sit out two seasons. I admire the Club backing both LK and JT but they have a debt to pay and not looking like it right now.

Keeping their mouth shut is the debt they've repaid.

Being good footballers was always just a bonus.

 

[Apex36]

Most likely is.

Schache has over all struggled but much like Moore doesn't have great forward support. In saying that Hipwood has outshone him in the same forward set up and being the same in age (19).

Think (without looking it up) these 200cm+ type fwds tend to take a bit longer to come on then the 194-197cm types.

I also query just how good some of these uber tall forwards (200cm types) are when they dominate u18 level usually against an opponent alot smaller then them.
They get to AFL and get an opponent much closer in height and tend to no longer be the dominant tall they were as a jnr.

Also we are yet to see any 200cm+ fwds be as dominant as Buddy or even Fev.

The closest we have is T.J.Lynch from GC (199cm), who's best goal kicking year was last season with 66 before that 40 and 44.

Tippett next best at 203cm 55 goal year back in 09 and since has been a mid 30s to mid 40s player.

People seemingly trying to shy away from a traditional sized FF/CHF types at 193-197cm. Recruiters all trying to find a dominant behemoth.

In fairness to Lynch though, he's not yet in his prime and he scored those goals in awful an awful team. Currently on track for another 60+ goal year too.

 

[loki04]

In fairness to Lynch though, he's not yet in his prime and he scored those goals in awful an awful team. Currently on track for another 60+ goal year too.

Yeah he is a gun CHF and in fairness is under 200cm (just).

 

[Obese Arachnid]

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/afl...j1.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Very interesting article about James Sutherland's boy (Aus cricket CEO) being approached by the AFL. They think he could be drafted in the top 10. Would be crazy get for AFL if he chose it over cricket. Don't think it will happen but interesting nonetheless.

Years gone bye this would've been realistic.

Now with 20/20 IPL & the like, we are losing ground.

 

[MagpieBat]

Hmm...

http://www.voy.com/51976/366792.html

 

[CFC2010]

Richmond and Pies leading the charge for Schache.......3.5 million five years as per Barrett on the FS.

 

[CFC2010]

Hmm...

http://www.voy.com/51976/366792.html

He did his hammy this week and we have great ballet coaches so sign him up!

 

[Obese Arachnid]

When was the last draft that was on the same level as that though? I'd still regard it as the best draft ever so far.

Wasn't last years draft choco block full of mids?

My Supercoach side says bullshit!

 

[MagpieBat]

Richmond and Pies leading the charge for Schache.......3.5 million five years as per Barrett on the FS.

Welcome to the Pies then, Joshy boy!

The Collingwood Football Club do not lose player recruitment races to Richmond...

 

[soreplums]

Trade in, Lever and Schache.
Pittard as a FA and I'd still look at Reid.

In:
Lever
Schache
Pittard
Reid

Out:
?
?

 

[TradeDraft]

Richmond and Pies leading the charge for Schache.......3.5 million five years as per Barrett on the FS.

Well I would not believe Barrett after his Grundy Talk this week.

Schache have more change of Getting a Game with us then at Tigers

 

[danielnajdek]

Richmond and Pies leading the charge for Schache.......3.5 million five years as per Barrett on the FS.

Well that means he will choose us. Richmond never get a player we're after.

 

[CFC2010]

Well I would not believe Barrett after his Grundy Talk this week.

Schache have more change of Getting a Game with us then at Tigers

Why Dave the Tigers only have one full forward also.

By the way Dave we have established that Barett never said Grundy was gone.