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Not joining til after the trade period apparently (start date yet to be determined).
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PieBeast
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Could be just me but can't see anything that qualifies him for this role. Not sure being a tough negotiator cuts it...
Except it's in Guy's best interest to sign his clients up on higher deals at opposition clubs!
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Umm.... Derek was already doing this position .... and his old position.
The review would have found that he was either no good at list management or it was too much work to focus on both so split the roles.
Only someone who hates everything would argue with the splitting of these roles.
He has experience in dealing with players, their salaries, contract specifics, welfare, and so on.
He knows how to deal with managers as he is/was one.
He knows how to deal with presumably all clubs' list management teams and who's who.
Knows the market and trade value of players.
Knows how to negotiate the best possible deal with players/clubs.
I can't see anything that doesn't qualify him for the position...
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He's certainly qualified, just not experienced in the role.
as much as we all want other clubs stitched up, its not in his best interests or the clubs to do that.
clubs have to get along and get deals done. he doesn't need any baggage heading into a new role.
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Piebeast... Another "Everything Collingwood does is s***" poster.
He is absolutely perfect for the role. Super impressed with the innovation from the club on this one.
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I'm liking these changes a lot. Finally the club has recognised its deficiencies and it taking appropriate action.
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I felt like Apex36 when I wrote that post. But maybe a little less brutal.
PieBeast
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He's good at maximising the profit for himself and his clients but has no talent identification credentials required to build a strong list whatsoever. And that's what his role is supposed to be.
So yeah nah..
How do you know? It's part of a player managers role to identify talent before they're drafted in order to get them on their books.
Plus, he's the list manager, not head of recruitment. I daresay his role is more about numbers, contract lengths, etc.
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manicmagpie
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My major complaint with the Club recently has been the recruitment/list management areas so this comes as a very welcome bit of news.
At the very least Guy will bring an absolute truck load of IP into the Club.
At the very least Guy will bring an absolute truck load of IP into the Club.
Player Agents also spend a lot of time scouting to see who they want in their stable. So he too may be onto something re: talent ID.
He is sure to have a large network and some god relationships (possibly some bad ones too) with other Player Agents. Might work in our favour.
He is sure to have a large network and some god relationships (possibly some bad ones too) with other Player Agents. Might work in our favour.
Apex36
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He might be the guy who looks after the Collingwood players well being and negotiates contracts with the player managers from the Collingwood side of the fence. Pretty much what he is doing now but from the clubs point of view.
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He’s in charge of list management, not talent identification. That still falls under Hine’s department as head of recruitment.
I don't see him as identifying talent. That will be Hinds job. I see him negotiating with the player managers for contracts. Looking at the lists well being and player needs and perhaps working out if we can fit certain players onto the list from a financial point of view.
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All true, but how much experience does he have building a list with multiple holes using just one pick in the first 2 rounds to satisfy the 'I want it now' needs of the Pies supporter base?
Lol according to some the club can do no right.
I'm interested in an explanation for this one as well. I've always assumed a club employs scouts to watch players all across the country, ie one in each capital city.
Or are there freelance scouts who sell their IP to whatever club is willing to pay for them?
Just assumed we already had "professional scouts"
